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There was a solution as the companion ways needed to be covered to work the capstan. See this contemporary model with the 2 lids in front of the capstan. Amazon class Frigate; Fifth rate; 32 guns SLR0315 https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66276.html Scale 1:32. Built at this slightly larger and unusual scale, the model is a fine example of the Georgian style of modelling, with a fully planked hull and partially planked decks. The hull is constructed 'bread-and-butter’ fashion, of wooden planks glued together horizontally and then shaped externally to fit templates taken from the building plans. The wooden core is then gouged out internally to produce a shell of about an inch thick, over which the planking, deck beams and decoration are applied. The model has been made to a high standard of workmanship and includes some fittings not always shown, such as the compass binnacle just forward of the wheel, shot racks between the guns, the hammock-netting stanchions and swivel guns on the ship's side. Date made circa 1780 -
No that´s Foxtrot from Augsburg. Chris has more beard I believe 🙂 XXXDAn
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The length of the slot can be verified easily on the cross section drawing. @druxey the slot we are taking about would be one deck above. In case of the Vasa, there is the whole part of the deck above elevated, so that no slot is needed. On the Vasa one can see the enormous height of the staff, must be about 4 Meters above the swivel, if one takes the pilot on his elevated place as scale. And yes, that is me, showing the direction to a fellow forums mate 🙂 XXXDAn
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Thanks for the discussion, there is one flaw in the set of the last drawings. The whipstaff should almost be twice as long, as otherwise in the 73° positions - as already in the ones before - there is missing the space to hold and handle the staff 🙂 Especially in the positions with extreme angle, there is much force needed to keep it pressed down, as the pressure against the rudder would try to put it straight again. My guess is that place for many hands is needed. Here is the set-up from the William Rex in Amsterdam. Behind the binnacle one can see the top of the whipstaff, with a cover underneath, that is why many people do not realize it, even I only discovered it afterwards on the pictures 🙂 My guess is - compared to other heights like the rails beside the companion way - that it protrudes about 80 to 100 cm above the deck, too little to manipulate it from the upper deck. So my conclusion is, that it was worked from the deck underneath. XXXDAn
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Just realised, that I never congratulated you for that wonderful build! A marvel! All the best, DAniel
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Hello @Charles Race 1 The entry port was created the conventional way by tinkering 🙂 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-heller-plastic-to-victory-and-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=151797 2 This was self-adhesive Copperfoil from a role from the tiffany shot. Width about 4 mm, check on your hull the sizes you need. https://modelshipworld.com/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-heller-plastic-to-victory-and-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=1274 3 These are the cannons from the kit 🙂 Just a bit detailed wit hooks and the gun monogram from my etch parts ... https://modelshipworld.com/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-heller-plastic-to-victory-and-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=69202 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-heller-plastic-to-victory-and-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=73019 http://www.dafinismus.de/plates_en.html#anker5 Hope that helps, Daniel
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Thank you Mark, yes also looks like the others have plenty of time to build, I had plenty of etch and resin parts to deliver 🙂 Luckily "c" does not affect me in this way, just the posting is a bit strange as the cue in front of the post-office is sometimes a 100 Meters long due to the distance regulations. All the best and stay well too, Daniel
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Small sign of life 🙂 Heavy times in the office and also very funny moving home at Corona times, as the dozen of helpers had to be reduced to 2 as the local regulations required. Also I kept to my credo: knock down and build up again, this time larger scale, the kitchen proved to be the place of my darkest desires. My wife now understands the term of dafinism 😉 Only difference is that what used to be a 0,4 mm eyebolt is now a 4000 mm worktop in the the kitchen - a magnification of scale of the factor of 10.000! Start of March, when life was still almost normal, I was with my Vic and my Soleil at the exhibition at Augsburg. Here some pictures from there and also some from the temporary display of my set of the 4 slices. I am already looking forward to finish the 1803 version 🙂 Happy Easter and stay healthy, cheers! XXXDAn
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It is documented on british ships in several models and drawings/paintings. But no clue to me if used in real life or not, as other models and drawings of the same time omit it. Perhaps a fashion or test? In opposition to french ships, the english ships had rudders that were more slimmed towards the aft edge. Perhaps this had the same effect. As for my Vic of 1803 I decided not to show the groove as the contemporary rudder of the St George lost in 1811 in Thorsminde does not have one. XXXDAn https://strandingsmuseet.dk/en/a-sneak-peek-of-the-exhibition/
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Très chique , très magnifique! XXXDAn
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After the 2016-slice was rather in a ship shape Bristol fashion, I would like to go another approach for the 1805 slice. In the times when there was no RAL, Pantone or DIN color scales, I would suppose that each barrel of paint had a slightly different shade depending upon its provenance, batch or age. Also each barrel from each batch could have been given a different shade depending upon the intermix of the content or the fading stage as of sun and salt or the rust and dirt sitting on the surface. Also given the accounts that the Vic was painted several times being upon high seas, I would rather expect a nice patchwork of 50 thousand shades of yellow ochre. Yes it´s alive! And did you discover it? Even the new todays "seamon-pink-hello-kitty" can be found, yes down there, in the left bottom corner, just around the rigol 😉 Enjoy, XXXDAn
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Don´t be too scientific about the early years of gun use. No experience yet, no calculations yet, no trained crews yet, no long range yet, just shoot if you think you can 🙂 Here is the Vasa, best example of what used too be, even if the decks were not curved as extreme as in the galleons any more: curve still quite visible. And if one think that things need to make sense the way we believe in today, have a look at the main top that is as declined that it is even difficult to stand straight! XXXDAn
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But ok, it is time to really start the Trafalgar slice. One remembers: Te ship was recommissioned in March 1803. Possibly with the yellow and black lines, no checker yet. If ever or if when this one was applied, I found no contemporary sources. It might well be that the checker was only a post Trafalgar feature. The ship hastily sailed into the Mediterranean Sea where it stayed over winter. In April 1805 it starte it famous cruise to Sicily, Gibraltar, Caribbean Sea and back, chasing Villeneuve. On the return in August the hull was painted while being still on sea. End of August, It entered a refit in Spithead, start of September plenty of paint was delivered, a week later they were out on sea again. Possibly plenty of paint jobs were still ongoing at this moment. The stress of the voyage and the very stressful and time squeezed refit make me think, that the lovely lady possibly already looked a tad shaken already before the battle on 21.10.1805. Especially I imagine plenty on competing touches of paint ... Turners drawings show clearly the build up forecastle with its gun ports. Not to be seen the timber-heads, shown in most contemporary drawings and models. So I adapted those. Not to forget, the drawings show the ship after hasty repairs at Gibraltar, perhaps those were omitted in the reconstruction of this heavily damaged area. For the positioning of the yellow strakes I go closely with Maik´s wonderful analysis of Turners drawings. https://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/t7042f1475-HMS-Victory-Spurensuche.html First fitted the chain boards with lines of Apoxy Sculpt, my favorite way of doing things like that. Then searching for the color split lines with markings on tape ... ... and a first layer of yellow ochre. Not the real final shade yet, only to find the proportions. XXXDAn
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So the guns are taken on board but much to hurried, the board of ordnance did not have the time to repaint the carriages in the new color. Have to change that still ... And now just the Trafalgar slice missing 🙂 XXXDAn
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Nothing new from me, but a fun and good read 😉 https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10455141/visitors-to-nelsons-hms-victory-complain-it-is-too-cramped-and-they-keep-bumping-their-heads/ XXXDAn
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Hy druxey, even though difficult to see, this netting is already a quite dirty white just like the Vic today in P. The original 1805 version will be much more a natural hemp color 😉 XXXDAn
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Thanx Popeye! And on we go: Fixed the hammock nettings on a cardboard and paint them white and buffy colors. Then first the short side, using paper for the netting not to get stuck on the stanchions and small wooden sticks to press the nettings down properly. Then the long side. Paper again to facilitate the insertion, then fixing the netting with superglue onto the stanchions. To have a better perceptibility I introduced some darker paper and fitted the nettings to correct size with a very pointed scissors. For the adrenaline not to go down too much, I user a lighter´s flame to get rid of some excess superglue :-0 As all parts survived the procedure, the upper holding rope was fixed and the netting glued onto it 🙂 In the meantime - using some drying time - I also fixed some ringbolts of the 1805 version on the channel boards ... ... and fixed the boards onto my slice. All the best, dafi
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Hello Jan, no the big one is too late for that, even though I already have a reminiscence for that, get surprised ... ... in some years or so 😉 For the small 2017-slice, I adapted as far as I can judge. Even with all the help from the friends here including the color samples, the color is still quite miraculous to me, as its appearance changes a lot through the light and shades. Have to see it one day with my own eyes to be able to understand it completely. But not to let you down dear Jan, I will soon take out the wrecking ball and ELIMINATE a part that needs to be replaced, funnily one of the parts that is "original kit" - More soon. XXXDAn
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Do not have too much time to busyness commitments. So even small things deserve a small accolade for personal encouragement. A new gun port lid ... ... and got from a comrade a wire 1,5 mm outer diameter and 0,5 mm inner diameter, so the small protection for the lid lanyards can be done more easily. And the hammock stanchions are fixed too ... ... and a little later were knocked down - of course :-0 Also the chains suffered a bit, but my experience tells me that that is easily to be done 🙂 XXXDAn
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Soon again looking for something wrong to amuse you a bit 🙂 Until then, the rest is "done by the paint" ... XXXDAn
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That is as one has to think differently. The problem was not water coming over, the issue was to evacuate very fast the water that managed to come over. Big risk of instability and draining inside. Graham Moore describes in his diary nicely the situation, where the carpenter managed only in last second to knock of the lids of some ports to let all the water out after a big wave came over. XXXDAn
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Finally took the time to continue a bit. Here are the parts again, that I prepared some time ago 🙂 Still work in progress, have to clean up, apply some paint and the batten on the channel board. XXXDAn[/quote]
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Just for clarification, Gerard Delacroix mentioned on his old vanished forum on the 14.10.2006 concerning the french guns: "Il faut déjà savoir que seuls les canons de 36 (et les rares 48) ont deux palans de recul. Tous les autres calibres n'en ont qu'un." Only the heavy 36-pounders and the more rare 48-pounders hat two training tackles. All smaller calibers only had one. All the best, Daniel @G. Delacroix
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Look at the contemporary model of the Bellona https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/66299.html And see the tiles of my vic https://modelshipworld.com/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-heller-plastic-to-victory-and-beyond/?do=findComment&comment=324529 XXXDan
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