PeteB

I know I'm doing an Oliver Twist but I've been reflecting on my comments in my last post effectively writing off younger beginners which is not what I'd like to see happen. Maybe the way is to harness their mastery of computers and see if they can be tempted to put some skin in the game by physically constructing an object they have created on the "Dark Side" ie CAD modeling ?

Name of Ship - No particular vessel in mind but would like to see something with similar lines to La Jacinthe through to a composite steam/sail or steam luxury yacht – type that you would see anchored off Nice or Rhode Island late 1800s to1930s- eg Imperial yacht Standart (1893) being built by Alex Baranov in the current build logs. Scale - depends on size but prefer 1/48 Country of Origin - not important just fit the bill for appeal. Material Choice –Very Important to me being located here in Australia as it is difficult to source the nicer wood such as pear/boxwood/cherry etc especially in thick sheets or billets would pay what it takes to get the wood supplied in say 24”x 4-6”W by 2”D or in smaller sheets that is dressed to get around our quarantine. Style - Either POB or POF or possible (Hybrid see below) but not solid hull – reason again is mainly location and cost of mail to ship the weight. Probably also an issue internally in the US? It may be worth considering a Hibrid hull choice which would help both the newer modeller and those that do not want to spend the length of time on a full frame. I thought something like the build of Toms10 HMS Leopard POB/POF/POB. For those new to full framing you could offer all the easier square frames and POB for the more difficult cant and stern frames? Also may appeal to those that are looking for a shorter 12 month build. It would for me as I intend to start with an accurate kit probably POB to get my eye back in before I tackel Eds Naiad but would love a hibrid to cut my teeth on frames. Build time – I would be prepared to put in around what it takes to build an Naiad as I want to leave something of me behind when I move on but I also normally have a couple of projects on the go for when I hit the wall on the main one. So another POB or Hybrid would fit the bill there as a 12 mth project. Price range - depends on the timber supplied but if it came in large planks as mentioned above whatever they are worth plus the design time and plans – realistically probably up to $850 – $1000. Having just spent around $450 for a used Byrnes a third of which was shipping cost that would seem reasonable. Advanced or beginner......something in-between? - Maybe the hybrid design could address this problem – one lot of research same detailing for both with three hull construction choices? In regard to a kit for beginners I think we have to acknowledge that we have a passionate but pretty narrow field of interest compared to the real and virtual world out there.Not many kids these days know what a chisel is let alone how to use one – this is in no way a critism of them its just that they have grown up in a disposable world and the thought of repairing something let alone building something is completely alien to them. If you accept that thought then it seems to me (generally) that the new entrants to our hobby will be those now aged mid 40s who have built models of some sort in their youth and are looking to re-engage rather than abinitio. My two bobs worth – hope I'm not out of order. - Cheers Pete

Just came across your build and very pleased that I have. I find it refreshing to see someone practising a different approach to building, one which offers a shorter journey while still displaying all the external accuracy and which results in a model anyone would be proud to exhibit. Love your carronades and especially your Treenailing which is a joy to look at - your choice of woods giving just the right contrast. Congratulations looking forward to seeing the finished project. Cheers Pete

"Begging the nurses for medical bits and pieces like surgical knifeblades, medicationpots and other stuff for the hobby gave me the second and when the team of doctors discovered my hobbylathe and drillpress under the bed they send me home the same day for being incorrigible." Mate they probably kicked you out because they thought you were setting up shop to give them some competition in the surgery department :-) Welcome back Kees

Hi Tom I'd like to tag along as well - Great looking start nice clean frames and your CAD looks very nice too. Having only used basic autocad lite and no 3D been thinking about solidworks for modelling but didn't know if it would be suitable for this type of drafting - but from your work the curves look pretty nice to me. When you get a bit of "Spare Time" from Soccer and Modelling maybe a Solidworks CAD tutorial ?. Cheers Pete

Whatever you are using for a sealer is certainly the one to use - In the last few photos the planking looks like its is glowing - a beautiful sight. Congratulations again Giampiero

Happy Birthday Kees We all hope you are making good progress and are looking forward to those photos of you back at your workbench doing things to plastic that no-one else can do - Cheers and Birthday wishes from Pete and the guys.

Hi Nils Its nice to see another overall photo of such a graceful vessel that you are detailing so well, the design you have chosen certainly speaks of its era. Apart from your dexterity and attention to detail I admire the way you proceed through the build without detailed plans for each step as I would need - you seem to have a project workflow all laid out in your head as I haven't seen you miss anything that required a back track through work you have completed. Enjoying the journey thanks for having me along. Cheers pete

Hi Kees - Patricks advice gained from his experience mirror mine. Sometimes a bit of company to the end of the tunnel helps. Just know all the guys here are on the journey with you - pete

Very nice build you have a great eye for detail - I would be hard put getting to the level you have working off a set of plans let alone Photos. Nicely executed etch for the fire control radars and especially nice detail in the 5" mounts. Cheers Pete

Looks like I have to go buy a new dictionary of superlatives I'm wearing out awesome and stunning on the work here ....... Beautiful work and a joy to the eye - cheers Pete

Hi Alex - Fabulous subject and very nice CAD work especially like the Hotchkiss. I look forward to following you on your high tech journey Cheers Pete

Hi Giampiero I'm looking at the cannon you are not happy with being your first try and thinking I would happily pay whatever the asking price was as it stands – Is there anything you can't do? :-) I've enjoyed following your build and I'm looking forward to the rest of the journey - its like getting free tickets to watch a Donatello being created - cheers Pete

Hi Nils have enjoyed following this build. Love the subject and watching your skills bringing it to life - Models like this remind me of times as a boy looking into the windows of the Shipping Offices like P&O and others that used to be in the City with Models on display now sadly long gone - Cheers Pete

What a crying shame - Hopefully the publicity may help find a solution

I came across this youtube documentary dealing with a Swedish New build of a East Indiaman “Gotheborg” that sank in Gotheborg Harbour on her return home from China in September 1745. Divers recovered artifacts from her cargo between 1986 -1993 but almost all the structure of the vessel had decayed. The documentary follows the building of a replica ship from the selection of 200-year-old oak trees for mast sections, knees etc by traditional, hand-made carpentry, foundry and blacksmith work, and the making of 1.964 sqm hand-sewn linen canvas sails and 20 tons of hand-made hemp ropes. Before posting I did a check of the forums and found Tadeusz43 excellent post packed with fabulous information and photos of various period ships including many of the finished Gotheborg but it didn't include the following video links which I hope will be of interest to others as much as they were to me. Each part is about 15 mins. - Cheers pete Pt 1 https://youtu.be/w04CpOl94Sc Pt 2 https://youtu.be/LNwGpNLQb1M Pt3 https://youtu.be/Lp7ox8u7Kas