aliluke

Very cool Timmo - now I'll have to look into whether they have plans for the Fly - much to wife's disgust. If you do laminate get it done professionally unless you have talent in the area. I recently took on my own lack of talents by trying to glue paper maps to MDF backing boards. Looked good to start with, the next morning = air bubble city. It would have been fine if Golden Bay and Tasman Bay were mountain ranges...(ironically the mountain areas were all dead flat). I reckon framed and sitting on the wall behind/above the ship would be a good solution in my opinion.

Cheers

Alistair

P.S. Go the AB's

Nice work Andy - very tidy. I look forward to getting where you are at and doing half as good a job. In the meantime...planking...

Cheers

Alistair

Hi Ron

I like your work on the sails. Adding sails in any form, furled or otherwise, is a very courageous modelling step to take - a step that I'll skip for the meantime being too difficult for me. Good on you and they are looking really good. I think they will really enhance your model and I look forward to the finished shots - not far away!

Cheers

Alistair

Great stuff Bob. Kudos also to ME for making kits with this number of bulkheads - closer to a fully framed model than a POB kit. It makes for better planking I'm sure.

I'm looking forward to all your updates.

Cheers,

Alistair

Hi Hamilton

You really have headed into the depths of scratch model making with all of the research and testing of ideas. And it all looks very good indeed! I can't imagine an out of the box kit ever satisfying you again. A great progression - one day I may catch up with you.

Cheers

Alistair

Good work on the windlass Mick and I hope that my book recommendation doesn't make you regret spending 8 pounds.  Actually I know it won't.

Your bell - sorry mate, ditch the glitz in my opinion. The roof of the belfry could be gold but gold all over??? Too much in my opinion but, hey, it is your ship - up to you.

Glad to see you've taken to cheating too .

Cheers

Alistair

Hi Adeline

Your first planking looks really good.

I'm a bit behind you but we might stay on the same track for a Fly build. Having just made cannons with aftermarket barrels and carriages I would seriously recommend that you ditch the kit versions and look elsewhere - Chuck Passaro is doing them through is Syren Ship Model company for instance. The kit ones are way too big - both the barrel and the carriage. I know getting new ones costs but it seems little to me in the overall context of the building process and the time invested.

I look forward to your updates.

Cheers

Alistair

Hi Bill

You are getting there and fill and sandpaper will help. Not sure how you aren't those planks tight to each other. Maybe more dry fitting first? All your pictures suggest the right methods. But don't worry, there are lots of weapons at your disposal - fill and sand being the best of them. Also remember to bevel the plank edge to the plank above - this helps keep it much tighter. Further I'd suggest that your hull framing is probably pretty strong - do not be afraid to apply pressure to get the planking tight. Another recommendation is come down from above as well as up from below. I think the plank that is most troublesome is the one in your picture: first first planking 001.JPG. It is creating a lens shaped planking area between the bow and stern and this is always going to cause trouble. You now have a lot of planking space at the stern to fill and very little at the bow - this will hurt. I'd plank it however you can now - just get past it, fill and sand and then look at the planking tutorials here for the second round of planking. Plan the second planking with care and you'll be away and sailing.

I hope this encourages, it is meant to - wood ship modelling has many ways of digging holes but equally as many ways of getting out of them. You'll be fine.

Cheers

Alistair

Looks good Ken but I wish your photos were more in focus  Home straight now - I know nothing about sails so can't help there.

Cheers

Alistair

Mick, you will be happy with this book - guaranteed. It has more in it than you'll ever need to know and the drawings are amazing. Well done on the price - I think I bought mine new when it was still in print so it was about $NZ40 or 20 UK pounds. 8 UK pounds is a steal.

Good buy - enjoy.

Cheers

Alistair

Hi Jason

Your carronade looks very fine to me - very crisp and clean. I use Morope for my rigging but you might consider Chuck's rope and some others out there. Morope isn't cheap, has it's own "features" but does look really good in my opinion. It also has a springy character which is really useful when you figure out how to exploit it. I would definitely suggest an aftermarket rope for your kit (or for future kits) should be considered. Your great work deserves a good rope.

Cheers

Alistair

Mick

The square marks are square holes into which handspikes or bars are inserted to give leverage to turn the windlass. The suggestion that they are marked rather than formed is probably because making a square hole is difficult without a milling machine. You probably can get away with a round hole although it isn't technically correct.

I reckon you'd be well served by getting yourself a copy of "Historic Ship Models" by Wolfram zu Mondfeld. It will answer most questions about bits of ships and has a wealth of very good drawings and modelling tips. I'm sure many here have a copy - I sure do and enjoy leafing through it. It also has a picture of an Endeavour model on the cover!

Cheers

Alistair

Hi Jason

I've been looking at your log without reply. You are doing fantastic work - crisp, clean and precise. I like it very much!

As for your tackle problem: consider fixing the rope to the blocks without a separate hook. This saves a lot of room but does give you an iron bound block rather than a rope bound one. I did this on my AVS which I reckon is a tighter rig than yours and got good separation between the blocks. I use a very thin blackened jewellery wire for the process. The same process is used for the double block but without the rope seizing. Here is a diagram I did a while ago and a picture of the roped tackle with 3mm blocks. You can also look at my AVS log for the results. I reckon you'll gain all the space you need but it will look slightly different than your carronade rig. I also have no idea what that eye bolt standing up from the rear of your cannon carriage is for - haven't ever seen one there...

Really great work - I'll keep following.

Cheers

Alistair

Richard

I'm surprised you have to wait for Jeff - I never have. But the wait is worth it! Superb product and very friendly service.

As to your sanding question - I say do not be tempted to test sanding to see how things look. It is a spiral of disaster - you'll over sand the area with no reference to the remainder of the planking and then you will over sand it again when you correct the rest of the planking to it.

Cheers

Alistair

Hi Mike

I'm admiring your hull as much as your boat. The hull, in all respects, is really great work. It has a really nice patina too - a slightly aged look without trying. The boat is a beauty as well. I'm looking forward to your future posts. Nice one!

Cheers

Alistair

Just looked at your mouldings again - brilliant.

I vote for Goodwin - down the middle, easier and no one is going to measure your masts and say "Oh no! You didn't follow Lees'".

My opinion and I admire your research - another dimension to our obsession...

Cheers

Alistair

Mick

There is plenty of "cheating" going on in ship model making - paper for brass, styrene for wood, glue for nails...I reckon finding a method that is easier while also being more accurate to the scale isn't cheating, it is just plain smart! All the same enjoy your challenge and your swivel gun posts look good with brass too. I look forward to your frequent updates.

Cheers

Alistair

Mick - A quick and very effective way of doing the brass strips on your swivel gun posts is to use paper. Blacken the paper with a Sharpie, cut the strips, blacken the edges and wrap. No one will know and they will fit tighter to the posts and be much more in scale. Paper is a very good friend in model making both as a finished piece and also as a template that can't be seen. It is cheap too...

I'm slightly surprised by how black everything looks. What's the plan there? Are you staining the pieces?

Cheers,

Alistair

Hi Vitus

Your planking is really great - looks near perfect - if I get it that good I'll .

But - it maybe the photos? - it looks very stripped, pale, dark, pale, dark etc. Perhaps pause for a look at the overall effect if it isn't otherwise dressed - copper plates and paint? Could be the photos, could be my taste...

Just my thoughts

Alistair

Good stuff Hamilton

I find it hard to grasp your scale at 1:100 - it is extremely small and makes your work all the more impressive. I'm just getting my head around 1:64. Go for 1:48 next time!

Cheers

Alistair

Hi Richard

I'm guessing this has drifted a little off the subject of your log - Syren. I don't want the following to further the discussion in your log - it could/should be sent to another forum - but I do want to say this...

Although I have no experience of power tools, I find a knife, a file and some sandpaper can do everything I want. Why buy all of this expensive stuff when you are not sure what to use it for? Keep your money in your pocket in my opinion. Power tools do not make you a better builder, they are just tools. I have no intention of ever using a power tool to make a model (I'll probably regret saying that...I'm tempted by a mill but only just tempted) and I like my models just fine. So do some other people...  I also find that without power tools my work space is easy to maintain - I don't need a lot of space.

I guess my point is that these machines might improve accuracy and speed but you are better off developing the accuracy by hand and then only look to the machines for increased speed and  (maybe) improved accuracy. In this hobby there is nothing a machine can do that you can't do by hand, my opinion again. You have only to look at the amazing models from the 18th C, made without power tools to get the point.

My preferred sequence is first knife, then file, then sand - seldom and with great care. For bigger pieces add in a hand saw at the front end. You'll spend longer figuring out how your machines work than it takes to do the basic woodworking.

Anyway - to get back on your topic. Your build looks very challenging and I look forward to your updates. Keep it simple and build! She's a beautiful ship.

Cheers

Alistair

Hi Slog

Have looked here before but not posted on your log. Your work is extremely good, clean, accurate and precise - all those words...I'd encourage you to go for fully rigged cannons. They will really add to the model and your model deserves them. Possibly look at after market cannons and carriages such as Chuck's? The carriages you have from the kit look a bit rough - you can buy much better and the cost/time benefit it is easy to justify (to yourself at least...). It can be done and your skills can do it!

My thoughts - a wonderful model in any respect regardless.

Cheers

Alistair

Looking good Mick and I'm glad my thoughts on your chain plates didn't offend. I don't really know enough about Endeavour to answer your rope coil question but to my eye they always look good if done well and not to excess. Also they are about the last thing to add which is a lot further down the road than where you are at. I like doing deck furniture - enjoy!

Cheers

Alistair

Pawel

I've just been down this treenail path with my Fly deck and agree with B.E and Ray. However I have just added them at about 0.5mm diameter and then filled them with a wood paste so that they are barely visible. I like the subtle detail effect but it is up to you how you go and I certainly do not like very visible, black treenails.

I'd certainly look at rebuilding the quarter badges versus those given in the kit.

Pandora is a beautiful ship and I too recommend the AoTS book if you can get a copy.

I look forward to your updates.

Cheers

Alistair

Can't answer your question Matti but I'm still enjoying your work. The painting of the stern features is fantastic and even with footless knights it all seems to fit together very well. Very impressive!

Cheers

Alistair