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Hi Anton, the kit I'm doing has one small boat in it which is solid hull but the kit only provides one and there were 2 on the Bounty. I've been scratching my head how to make one and you've given me the inspiration to do something different and challenging. Cheers Nigel
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Hi Eddie, doing alright so far - currently staining the upper hull planks dark oak and then will give her a white bottom!! Thanks for looking in Cheers Nigel
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Since my last post I've tried some on scrap that I've sanding sealed and you're right it holds the colour much better. Cheers Nigel
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Thanks Steve that makes sense. I'll try a few experiments on some scrap. Cheers Nigel
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Thanks Steve, really feel like I'm moving along with it now. It's funny you should mention about the Bulwarks as it is saying they should be done after the aft deck side planking. I've cut the planking ready but I really feel that I should fit the Bulwarks and paint the hull to get all the lower stuff (sorry about my terminology) done first. Re paint I've an Ultramarine blue which has come out a little darker than I wanted, but I think that it is due to the colour of the wood (sapele). My yellow is mid yellow and I've painted the edge of the Gallant Rail and it's not showing up much. Very happy with the Red though. Pretty sure the wood is absorbing the yellow and wonder whether I should give them a coat of sanding sealer first - what do you think? Thanks so much for your interest and advice Cheers Nigel
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Beautiful work!! Just discovered your log and will be following from now on. The delicate work on the small boat is amazing. I need to scratch build a launch for my Bounty and it's given me some good ideas. Cheers and keep up the good work Nigel
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Made a little more progress. Gave the deck a coat of well thinned sanding sealer after marking the treenails with a pin. I had a bit of a nightmare with the gallant rail as the kit requires 3 x 2mm x 2mm section lengths of Sapele to be bent to form the curve in the gallant rail. After 4 attempts I gave up as the wood is too brittle to bend well even after a good soaking. I did manage to bend one but it had such a horrendous twist in it I gave up and put my thinking cap on. So I've used 2mm x 6mm Sapele and jointed it to form the curve on the Bow. I've sanded the outside edge and I'm now constructing a little jig to protect the deck while I sand the inside curve. I think it will look ok. As for the painting I wanted to use an airbrush but I can't find a small model here in Turkey so I've reverted to the brush. The results are reasonable (see the red) which close up looks good as you can see the wood grain and the planking. Also the Sapele has taken the edge off the bright red colour and made it more 'lived in', which I like. Next job is to test colours for the hull. Cheers Nigel
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I've made a little more progress this week. Firstly I was unhappy with the design of Binnicle in the kit (left) so I made another one (right) I've also been through the lengthy process of filling and sanding the hull and I've fitted the keel, bow stem and stern post. I now need to pause to construct a secure building rig to keep her stable. I've decided to paint her and having seen the excellent results Steve12345 has got on his Bounty I'm looking for a small air compressor for the paint job. I'm really enjoying the build and so grateful for all the advice I'm getting. Thanks to all. Cheers from sunny Antalya Nigel
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Hi RMC, it's my first look through your log but it won't be my last. I'm absolutely mesmerized at the detail and quality of your work, it's fantastic and you should be justifiably proud. The log is so detailed it provides an invaluable reference tool for us mere humans who are just muddling along. Thank you.
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Thank you both for the kind advice. One thing is clear that when making these models from inaccurate kits it gives great scope to amend and hopefully improve. I can't get the Vallejo paint here in Turkey so I'm going to use artists acrylic which I can get hold of. I'm on what I hope will be a final fill and sand so I need to do some tests on some scap. I'll post my findings later. Thank you both for your interest cheers Nigel
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I've now had a chance to compare the Contructo Drawings and John McKays book - they might as well be looking at two different ships!! The binnacle I've made to their kit bears no resemblance to what it should be both in design and scale. The top of the binnacle in McKays book comes up to the wheel boss in height (proportionately) yet the kit binnacle is above the height of the wheel!! Also the cannons are not even close to the original 4pounders. I'm now beginning to appreciate a lot of what is being said in the forum about using the kits as a basis for the build. I think I can salvage the Binnacle but I've had to unfortunately dismantle the cannons, never mind it's a good learning curve. I've done some investigation into the paint on the hull and it appeared to be a combination of Lime, Sulphur and Tallow, which to my understanding would give a cream yellow colour. Does anyone have a view on this? Currently continuing with the sanding and planking the stern.
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Hi All, back in Antalya and back on the Bounty!! Gradually fitting the wedge style planks (not sure if there is a correct term for these) in the stern. See photos but I've filled the bow where I was off line and it looks obvious. I'm pretty sure that no matter which filler I used it would have a similar effect. The Constructo kit does not suggest paint but I'm seriously considering it, but I suspect it will be all or nothing and the more I look at Steves build the more I am leaning towards it. This has also been my first 'fill', I will do another finer one once the first sand of both sides is complete.
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Great stuff!! I hope that you don't mind but I'm convinced that your build will be the best point of reference for when I start to fit mine out. Thank you in advance.
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Great work as ever Steve superb attention to detail. I'm looking forward to getting back to work on mine next week.
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Steve, I can only marvel at your attention to detail, amazing job and just keeps getting better. Nothing short of inspirational. Cheers Nigel
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Thanks for your advice Eddie it's much appreciated. I'm having a well earned break in the UK at the moment but I'm missing her already!!
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I've just picked up a copy of John McKays books on the Bounty and the Victory and the detail is amazing. They are second hand with no colour photos but they will be invaluable. I can immediately see that the cannon I've made need a re think as the plans from Construto bear no resemblance to the book. Never mind it will teach me to do better research . Cheers Nigel
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Hull planking almost complete. Made a hash of the Bow on one side - didn't correct a mistake quick enough but I think it's retrievable. Thanks to all the folks who check out my postings but I'm off to Blighty tonight so this will be the last post for a month but I will miss the old gal and look forward to sorting her out when I get back.
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Fantastic Steve, thank you very much - as they say 'A Picture's worth a thousand words'. As a fisherman myself I'm totally with you on the block tying. I think I will ignore the Constructo instructions and use thread (or at least I'll have a go) Thanks again Nigel
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Hi Steve, every time I look at this log I learn something new. I have to say it is amazing and you should be justifiably proud of your efforts. The colour scheme is fantastic and makes my Constructo kit seem dowdy by comparison. I presume that you have taken the colours solely from Mackays book and not from Billings instructions? Can I ask you an unrelated question blocks and their rigging. While my planking is ongoing I'm looking to make up some blocks. My Constructo kit rigs them with copper wire! I'm a newbie as you know, but this seems like a cop out to me. Having sail that they are 3mm and the thought of rigging them with line frightens the life out of me - what do you think? Keep up the good work and providing me with a great reference project. Cheers Nigel
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Hi Steve, thanks for your query. Here are a few photos of where I'm currently at - As you can see its coming on slowly. I took the decision to drop those three planks in because I was having great difficulty twisting the bow planks to flow with the curve of the bulkhead (if you see what I mean). I've pretty much mastered the bend around the bow and stern but I could see myself 'going off line' as I came to the bulkhead curve. I think I've done something fundamentally wrong at some point and I hope you or your more experienced colleagues can put me on the right track. I've also been busying myself with cannons and other deck furniture. Thank you once again for your interest. Cheers Nigel
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