Keith Black

@mdulaney, MD, first i want to thank you for showing Ed Brown this thread and posting same. Second I want to thank Ed for the write up. The following facts derived using Douglas Fir as the wood species. The size of a cord of wood is 128 cu ft, 4 x 4 x 8 feet. A cord of dry Douglas Fir weighs approximately 3,000 pounds. It requires two, 12 inch diameter x 20 foot logs to produce a cord of wood. The size of a ton of coal is 36 cu ft, 3 x 3 x 4 feet. The cost of a cord of wood in Seattle in 1890 was between $2.00 and $4.00. The cost of coal in Seattle in 1890 was between $5.00 and $7.00 per ton. The heat energy of a ton of coal equals 1.5 cords of wood. Fuel usage: A 100 foot sternwheeler operating in Puget Sound would require approximately between 1,000 and 2,000 pounds of coal or 1.5 to three cords of wood per hour. 24 hour operations using coal at a rate of 1,500 pounds per hour equals a weight of 36,000 pounds per 24 hour period with a storage requirement of 648 cu ft. At a cost of $6.00 per ton, 24 hour operating cost equals $108.00 24 hour operations using wood at a rate of two cords per hour equals a wood weight of 144,000 pounds per 24 hour period with a storage requirement of 6,144 cu ft. At a cost of $3.00 per cord, 24 hour operating cost equals $144.00 The Bailey Gatzert could use up to three cords of wood per hour. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailey_Gatzert_(sternwheeler) Based on the above, coal was the better choice of fuel both practically and economically. I don't understand why a sternwheeler built in 1890 would be designed to use wood as a fuel source? Seattle's first railroad was built specifically to transport coal from mines to the port. . The Seattle Coal & Transportation Company built the first line, a tram and ferry system, which began operating in March 1872 to haul coal from the Newcastle mines. This was followed by the Seattle & Walla Walla Railroad, the first proper steam-powered railroad, which also hauled coal from the Newcastle mines to Elliott Bay and was highly profitable. Seattle Coal & Transportation Company: This company built the first railroad in the area, a system of trams and barges, to move coal from the Newcastle mines to a dock on Lake Union and then to bunkers at the foot of Pike Street by 1872. Seattle & Walla Walla Railroad: A steam-powered railroad that began operating in 1873, extending 21 miles from Steele's Landing on the Duwamish River to the Newcastle coal mines. It was highly profitable from transporting coal to Elliott Bay piers and helped establish Seattle as an economic center.

Oh my, Glen. This is gonna take hours of open bottle surgery.

Allen, I doubt anything you try will make it worse. keep at it till it either straightens or you give up. Worse case scenario is you have to purchase another piece of dowel.

Would you please provide the reference source from which you derived this conclusion as my research indicated that once coal was discovered and developed, coal became the primary fuel source for the Mosquito Fleet. Early coal development. https://www.historylink.org/File/5158 From https://www.historylink.org/file/869 "Initially, wood was the fuel of choice, but it was replaced by more efficient coal and later by oil. (In the 1890s, King and Pierce counties produced about a million tons of coal annually. " Thank you for posting. Keith

I agree, John. I meant AFTER the repair/repairs were made.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Having said that what you don't want to do is make it worse than it is. if you plank bender works I'd still weight the end and hang vertically for a few days.

john, after No. 3 is painted those tiny imperfections won't even be noticeable. I seldom if ever make anything "perfect', I've learned to embrace the imperfections as they add a bit of realism

Allen, you'd get better straightening by hanging the dowel vertically with a weight on the bottom. and somehow steaming the bent portion of the dowel.

Glenn, welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard.

Wowie kazowie, Brain, the realism is just fantastic! i love the gas tank, what a treat, the whole ship is a treat.

Twilight looks incredible, everything looks fantastic! Beautiful detail work, Craig. Twilight is a peach of a build. 👍

Nicolás, welcome to MSW. Sorry to hear that parts were accidentally thrown away. Glad to have you aboard. The link below indicates they have one in stock. It's a shame to have to buy another kit but it is an option. https://www.mustang-hobbies.com/product_p/hel-81047.htm

Upon hearing the mizzen was saved, everyone starts to happy dance.

They look great, are they getting any easier, John?

I'm still a week away from getting started on the barge and dredge material testing. If I find I need more material examples I will definitely be seeking your assistance. Thank you, Roel.

Eberhard, Eric, and Roel, thank you for your input. I am constantly amazed with the expertise of our MSW members. I think one would be hard pressed to find another site that has the collection of mixed professionals found here in MSW. https://susquehannagreenway.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Danville_Hard_Coal_Navy_Sign-for-web.pdf First paragraph from the above, "The process of dredging coal on the Susquehanna between Danville and Sunbury started as early as the 1890’s and continued to the 1950’s." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dams_and_reservoirs_of_the_Susquehanna_River It would appear that coal dredging occurred for an approximate ten year period before the York Haven Dam was built in 1904. Eberhard, Eric, and Roel, once again thank you so much for your input and your contribution to this build log.

I'm sorry it's taken me so long to say "thank you" for the kind comment, Rick.

Beautiful work, Mark. 👍

Great work, Paul. White craft wire is an option. It comes in different gauges. I've shown an Amazon link as an example. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=24+ga+white+craft+wire&rh=n%3A262596011&ref=nb_sb_noss

Keith, do you mean gunport lids? If so I would think they would be part and parcel in case of heavy seas. Keith

I guess it wasn't quite finished..WOW!

You take care of yourself, Bob. That outside nonsense can wait till spring and if it can't wait, either have family step in to help out or start looking up phone numbers for an outside handyman.

Any help here? https://modelshipworld.com/search/?&q=rc rigged sloop&page=1&quick=1&search_and_or=and&sortby=relevancy

That wheel turned out fantastic, John. Having a pattern looks like it helps immensely. I wasn't able to find different paddle wheel design patterns that are scaleable, someone is missing a bet.