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Going slowly. I am waiting on the pin vise to be delivered, to finish the bow transom, and then I managed to break the stern transom holder while assembling the building board. Thinking I need to stop for today! Thanks Paul, for your words of wisdom. And I think the dremmel needs to be my next purchase. Eric, the instructions could sure use an editors help!
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Thanks Keith! Geesh, I thought I'd really screwed up just starting out!!! I'll forge ahead (with a close look at SkiBee's log!) Thanks druxey! (what was I thinking??... a spare knee makes much more sense! )
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Ok, I think I figured it out. The manual talks about "small differences" in parts... and when I look at @SkiBee build log (#5) it looks like his stern transom and knee look like mine. So maybe its ok?
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Ok, I'm confused. Here's the cutouts. There's two "stern transom knees' (I assume for the upper and lower stern transom), and there's one "bow transom knee" on the cutouts. And here's what I've done so far. Very confusing. Not sure what went wrong!
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Getting a really slow start. Just started on the bow transom and the lower stern transom. In the instruction manual, the knee for the stern transom covers just over half the transom, whereas the knee on MY transom covers almost all the distance of the transom. Am I using the wrong knee? (I used the "stern transom knee") I put mine next to the picture in the manual to show the difference. Hoping this is ok. Also, I'm trying to do better on cleaning up excess glue!
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Thanks Ryland - I added appropriate tags! Thanks Keith - I've ordered drill & bits, miter box, and a set of files. The guys at Model Shipways say these will get me started, and if I need to, I can order more as needed in the future. I'm looking forward to this new challenge, and as always, thanks for your encouragement!
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Thanks everyone! My new build log for the next project (Norwegian Sailing Pram) is listed below. It looks more complex!
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Thanks for the feedback. I've got a call into Model Shipways to discuss the tools I need for this build.
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@Ryland Craze Hi Ryland. Do I need to add "tags" to the title of this new build log? Or is that something that you do? (I didn't do that for my Dory log, but they magically appeared). Just wanting to make sure I'm doing things correctly!
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I'm just starting my SECOND model ... the Norwegian Sailing Pram. As a rank beginner, I learned alot from my first build (the Lowell Grand Banks Dory), but this one looks even more complex and challenging! So I first read several of your Build Logs here, and I'm glad I did. Found out my instruction manual was printed at less than 100%, so I downloaded and printed the appropriate pages (p 4, 5, 39) from the Model Shipways pdf, specifying 100% on my printer. Worked out well. (As an FYI, the "foot" of the sail pattern is supposed to measure 6". In my manual, it was only 5 3/4", so my new printout is now correct.) I also learned from the logs to do an Inventory check. Sure enough, mine was missing two oar locks. Called Model Shipways and they were really great, and will mail me the missing parts. But now I have questions on tools. I only have the initial tool set from the Dory, but the instructions show a longer list of tools required. I know I need drills and files, but it also mentions "hard metal flush cutting shears", bench block, miter box, broach (what are these used for?), and mini plane? Any advice on which tools I really need? Thanks and looking forward to getting started!
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Thanks, Steve. I really enjoyed this kit and learned alot, although I am a rank beginner, so it was challenging for me, as will be the next one, the Norwegian Sailing Pram that I'm about to start! You'll enjoy this one. Have fun!
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Thank you, everyone, for your warm welcome and encouragement! I am enjoying this community, you are all wonderfully kind and encouraging and helpful! I'm going to spend some time reading the build logs for the Pram, and getting familiar with the instructions before I start, but I am hoping I can carry forward what I learned from the Dory (which is proudly displayed in my dining room!) Stay tuned for the next build, and thanks again! - Lynn
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@Cathead Thanks, I'm definitely happy with how it turned out, mistakes and all. And I will apply much of what I learned to the Pram (and thanks for encouraging me to continue with a build log!) Have fun at the Royals games (if you don't get rained out!) @ERS Rich Thanks for the congrats! @Keith Black Keith, you've been so encouraging to me throughout this entire process, and I can't thank you enough! To be able to share on this forum and have you and the others give me feedback and encouragement has been awesome, and kept me from giving up at times, knowing there were folks out here that I could turn to for advice and sharing. So I believe I may be one of the very few women out here, and I think you may have all thought I was a guy since I never indicated male or female. I didn't think it was needed, as I've always been in professions that are male-dominated (engineering and IT), and I always fit in quite well. But I wanted to make sure you all know who you're talking to, because I've grown to appreciating you all alot, and I hope that it doesn't change things, because I'm going to rely on you all for help with my next build! One more thing... on alot of comments, I see things like "Current Build" or "Completed Projects". Where does that get added? (Now that I've completed something, I'd like to post it!)
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It's DONE! I have FINISHED my very first wood ship model! Whee-ha! I have learned so much... thank you, thank you, for all of your suggestions, comments, and encouraging words! It was a huge learning curve for me, and looking at the instructions for the Norwegian Sailing Pram (my next project which arrived yesterday), I can see its going be another giant learning curve! But I'm enjoying learning new things about myself (patience comes to mind), and even with frustration and not knowing what I am doing, its still been fun! Here's the final pics... lots of mistakes along the way, but I am ok with everything, given all that I learned! Again, thanks! I used Red Oak Minwax wood finish on the base and on the thwarts. Size 18 yellow twine for the becket. I could've spent more time on the oars, but I was concerned about breaking them, so I decided to stop. In looking at the pictures, you can see the frayed planks, excess glue, and many other imperfections, but still, I am happy with my first-time results! PS - Tholes are difficult. I am glad they supplied 12 inches of dowel, even though only 4" are needed, since I used several extra inches in trial and error!
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Thanks Cathead, what a great idea! I will definitely get one of those for my next build.
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Problem solved by using all your suggestions! First, I went to the hardware store and found thinner string. In the pic below, the tan string came with the kit, but I found a thinner yellow string (and I liked the color better anyway!) Then, as Keith suggested, I glued the string to a needle, (rather than tying it as I first tried to do). And then, as bobandlucy pointed out, I used a drill bit (turning it by hand) to enlarge the holes. I haven't finished the cap rail yet, but wanted to solve the becket problem first. Thanks for all the advice! Needle glued to yellow string Becket installed! Whew!
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Thanks Keith. I tried using a needle and thread, tying the rope to the thread and passing the needle thru. It just pulled the thread off the rope! Drilling is beyond my skill level at this point (and increases my stress!) but i may try the wire suggestion. Thanks!
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Thanks for the glue removal info. I got nervous about potentially separating some of the pieces in trying to remove blobs. It looks a little better after the 3rd coat of paint. I was really feeling good about my progress after I painted the cap rails and finished 3 of 4 oars (I broke an oar while sanding, so I really appreciated the spare in the kit!) Felt good about the painting UNTIL I realized I painted the wrong side of one of the rails! Oops! One other question... any ideas on how to thread the THICK piece of rope thru the TINY holes in the becket? I glued the end as instructed, but it still isn't thin enough to make it. I may try to find some thinner "rope-like" string at the local hardware store! Oops! Realized my mistake when I placed the cap rails in the direction they'll need to go! Back to painting!
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Thanks Keith, for your advice! For painting, I am using the regular bristle brushes that came in the kit. But good eye noticing the foam brush! I'm also sanding the oars, and I'm using the foam brush to "brush off" the shavings as I'm going along. 🙂 I also appreciate your words on the sander. I'll hold off... it costs more than the Dory kit!!! And thanks for the kind words! I'm enjoying this, and really happy I started with this little boat! Someday I'll get to my dream of building a three-masted schooner with rigging and sails, but I need to learn so much more before I attempt it!
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Started the painting process. White primer, 1st coat, 2nd coat. The main thing I am learning, (for my next build!) is to be waaay more careful in applying glue! The excess glue is really showing up with the paint. After primer, I tried to scrape some of the blobs off, but didn't have much luck. The first coat looked really blotchy, but the 2nd coat is looking better, and I think it will be ok after the 3rd coat, as long as (again) no one looks too close! At this point, is there anything I can do to remove the excess? I found a "reciprocating micro sander" that I could buy on Amazon, thinking i could "sand off" the excess glue, but not sure if this is a reasonable purchase at this point in my beginning shipbuilding. Any thoughts? Is this a helpful tool? First coat also shows excess glue as well as ragged planks too! 2nd coat is better, but hoping 3rd coat will even out the paint. I just wish I could eliminate the excess glue blobs. But, its all part of the learning process, and I will be CAREFULLY applying glue going forward!
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Almost ready to paint. Can't believe I've made it this far! Attached bands, risers, gunwale, breast hook, and frame head irons. (those were difficult. I used a yellow playing card to make the little pieces, and without the right tools they aren't exactly identical, but I wanted to practice doing tiny piecework.) I'll need more practice. Inserted thwarts (just to see if they would fit). Thwarts 2 and 4 came out of the kit looking identical, so I trimmed the sides to fit the opposite ends of the boat. Also, thwart 1 was too long (I made Frame 1 too narrow), so i carefully took some length off the thwart, only to realize that the actual problem was that the notch that fits around the frame wasn't deep enough for my narrow frame. So I increased the notch depth, and it fits better now (but nerve-wracking to mess around with it!) Next step - prime everything (I have a spray can of white primer), and then begin the painting process! And lots more to do after that... oars, cap rail, tholes, becket. But it's well on its way!
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