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Sam,
 
I keep quiet for I prefere not to be in the corner ... did you do a lot of nitromethane sniffing ...
 
Popeye, love the lesson in plastic kit building ...

Nice work Cristiano. Looks ready for rigging to me! Clever move on the shot holders, when you make to many they will be a hazzard for walking anyway
 
Missed versions 1.0 through 3.0 ...

I though I had shown the stripped decks to you.....varying degrees of paint removal.  it might not be all bad......may tend to shadow here and there, when they are repainted.   I did show you these though
 

 
the paint that I decided on is called U.S. Army/Marines sand......it's lighter and has a bit of a yellow tint to it.
 

 
these are the parts you haven't seen.    these came out with varied success as well,  but I think it will cover nicely
 

 
I began to paint and  assemble the bridge deck.....hope to have more for tomorrow.
 

Another update...
I am proceeding with the two yards of the mizzen mast and the related single square sail.
As can be seen, a lot of ropes are yet to be installed, so everything is rather loose.
I attached all the cannon shots holders (one every two cannons, since I am lazy and I don't want to make 16 of them ), as can be seen in another photo.
Ah yes, I finally released the "Venetian flag 3.0", which will be the final and definitive one! :D
I don't want to put the hands anymore on this flag, because it was a very tormented decision and tormented research...

Everything seems to be trying to keep me away from the shipyard but I have been able to start the stern framing. Glued the filler & frame pieces in place. Started gluing in the port sills, checking the height with the cannon cut-out.
 

First of all thanks to everybody for the "moral" support . .
 
Thursday, May 14, 2015
 
Yesterday and today I worked on planning and building of the gunwale.
 
I discarded the idea of using a wooden strip to be bent, which is rather difficult in my case, so I opted to crop the various segments that make up this element using a birch plywood, 2mm thick. The piece will be painted black, then this plywood, of very good quality, is probably the best solution for my task.
Using cardboards properly prepared I took over the external shape of the gunwale tracing with a pencil the outline of the hull.
Then I scanned the cardboards on the computer and I used the images as background for Autocad. I traced over the outside shape of the gunwale, I refined the curved line in some areas, although for only a few tenths, and then I got the internal gunwale shape, 9 mm internally of the external line.
Finally with the Autocad "mirror" function I reversed the pictures and I printed them.
At this point, it was enough to crop the parts to be glued onto the plywood and start cutting. Operation currently ongoing. The process seems in practice, so far, very good. . we'll see if this is true also for the remaining pieces to be cut . .
Meanwhile I submit you four other images, greetings, Jack.
01 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100266_zpshdxsnvni.jpg

02 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100267_zpshhqce4my.jpg

03 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100268_zpshklm9py9.jpg

04 Brick%20by%20JackAubrey/P1100269_zpsie5j4755.jpg

 

Kurt,
 
Multiple sources discuss possible paint schemes for Bertrand, though little is known for sure. Most similar boats were painted white, with some trim in other colors. The main deck was often either red or natural wood. The model on display at DeSoto NWR, of which I included a photo in the opening post of this build, seems to match the color scheme most commonly attributed to Bertrand based on my reading. Here's another view of it:
 

Hello Hans,
 
I've been following your log for some time now. I am building a Bireme from Dusek, its very similar but much much less complicated than yours. What I am in particular interested is the ram that you made by yourself and it look incredible! Just wanted you to know that I am using your pictures as a reference for building my own on the bireme (since the ram on Dusek bireme is, well, rather bad)
 
Keep up the good work, cant wait to see more!
 
 
Yes, and another thing. I saw that earlier you were talking about painting detalis on the euro coins like shields. Were here is a thing that might be of interest to you concidering shield paintings:
 

http://store.warlordgames.com/collections/greeks
Those are made based on actual shield paintings found on pottery and such.
 
They are made for 28mm models, I've ordered myself some recently. If u are interested in scale and size of the decals i can take some pictures with a ruler next to it when they arrive, if u are interested.
 
Cheers

The hull is developing nicely. I had a close shave with my floors, having estimated the required pieces too close for comfort, and not being sure until the very end that I'd have enough. Phew!
 
All the vertical frames are assembled and in place, attached with stringers. As the futtocks at bow and stern are angled, I plan to install them one at a time, to fit. Thus I'm now working to bend and attach an interior stringer at the deck line, to which I can measure & attach each futtock. For example, here's the bow:
 

 
I soaked these two long pieces in a cookie tray of boiling water, then bent them around a jury-rigged frame to the correct curve. Once they're dry, I'll glue them in place and have a solid reference point for the rest of the futtocks. Note the gentle sheer leading up to the stem. Here's the stern:
 

 
It's a bit simpler here. The stern is squared off, with a simple curve leading up to the deck. I cut out appropriate molds on my bandsaw, then glued them into an appropriate arrangement for bending the internal stringers. Like the bow, I soaked these in boiling water before bending them into place. As shown, they represent the actual shape of the stern (upside down) quite well. Once these are in place, I'll connect them to the existing stringers in the rest of the hull. Note that the last 8 futtocks are extra-long; this is because the stem also has a rising sheer, beginning there, so I cut those pieces longer to allow for trimming to the exact length once a final stringer is installed.
 
Other notes: while I could have installed all the internal stringers as one long piece, my internal perfectionist got the better of me and I instead cut them into regular, scarf-jointed planks (the actual builders wouldn't have had planks over 100' long!). These joints don't show up in the overexposed photo 1, but they're there. Also, the keelson will need to be built up with several layers of planking, but I won't do that until later.
 
Coming up next, I'll build the stern and connect the deck-level stringer all the way around, and start the tedious job of custom-cutting and -fitting the ~100 futtocks needed to complete the hull framing.
 
This has been great fun so far, and while I'm not particularly looking forward to all the fussy cant frames coming up, I love the geometry of open full framing. A voice in my mind is suggesting that I change course dramatically and build this simply as an open-hull model, with no superstructure at all, perhaps with the deck half-planked at most. What think you all?
 

Nice repair but as for Bud he thought it was a natural enemy Vultures and cats do not get along
David B

I might have been a little premature in my "nice job on the repairs" statement Danny, but I already knew you'd have her back ship-shape in no time. But we have to remember Pud's in training and mistakes are inevitable. He's going to be a great helper, specializing in rigging.   

That's a good recovery job Danny - Pud must have a short life expectancy as that a few lives expended on this build alone (kidding of course - I hope you have many happy years with Pud and the Vulture!)
 
cheers
 
Pat

Thanks guys, but the pics above only show the damage, not the repairs (there was damage on TWO masts). Here are the repairs :
 

 

 
 Danny

NIce Igor. another hughe step forward

Just recovered meself mate, almost went cold turkey    ... it does look better from this side too! Give Gibbs a pat on the head from me, he must have waited patiently for you to finish ... A sadness is washing over me ... just a few more updates ...

Dan,
 
Sorry to hear about the damage ... glad it was quickly repaired... maybe be prepared and have a ball of wool ready ...

Thank heavens I only have a small dog who can't jump up on the bench.   Although anything that hits the floor is hers....
 
That's a very good repair.  Looks like it's never been damaged.

Dan,
 
Sorry to hear about the damage ... glad it was quickly repaired... maybe be prepared and have a ball of wool ready ...

Thanks George, Dave, Greg (that happened and Christian. Robin, I think Druxey explained how they fitted in the post you put up - I don't know any more about them.
 
The Cat came back       !!!
 
Below are some pics of the damage caused by Pud on his most recent (and hopefully LAST) excursion through my ship. All damage has been repaired, and wasn't quite as bad as it first appeared. The Crowsfoot Euphroe block lashing was the most difficult piece to repair. The whole repair job took me a full morning, but Pud is still alive and well
 

 

 

 
 Danny

Dick,
 
Nice detail, didn't know about those knights ... another learning moment

Cristiano,
 
I presume those books are in Italian ... I can manage in English, French, German, and Dutch so that will pose a problem

I didn't, but my Brazilian Portuguese is bad ... and reading it ... nah, not an option s jet, my Japanese doesn't carry much weight either

Michael,
 
Seeing those pictures, it just registers how small the engine truly is ... hope preparations are going according to plan, best wishes for this hectic time for Judy too, hope it's not to tiring for her

Patrick,
 
Very nice paint job ... as for colour ... that's a matter of personal taste ... luckily paint is a practical medium ... sand and spray...

JesseLee,
 
Looks good mate you're a bit early baptising your build though ...