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In fact barrels was a specific question of mine as well. I hope my above post came across in the lighthearted manner intended, sometimes that gets lost. I'll do some research into this as well, but I look forward to see what you come up with. On Ebay I found a collection of Artitec "old-style ship's cargo" and was wondering if I can use any of it. https://www.artitecshop.com/en/old-style-ships-cargo.html Thanks Steven for your always helpful information. -
I have no idea, but I've been wondering about this, so thanks for asking. However, historical accuracy is not too important to me at this stage. Let me know if I have to stand in the time out corner for saying that.
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I've sailed into the doldrums a bit with the rigging. Even though I worked for The San Francisco Maritime Museum and had other jobs in my youth where I did big-boy rigging, this small scale stuff is another world, very challenging. But yesterday I did go ahead and add the additional knees I mentioned above. I took Cathead's comment to heart about more frames in that area looking out of place, and decided to add two more knees on each side as a kind of balance. Even if they don't really belong there I think t works OK. It's all crude workmanship, which is my style I guess 🙂, but it's moving forward! I added the flying cleats for the shrouds and next step will be the mast and shrouds.
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Interesting idea to construct laminated shroud pins like that. They came out quite nice looking, and should look great in the rigging. So far I'm still using the flying cleats that came with the kit.
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Thanks Eric, I thought of that and decided once the shrouds were attached then it would be obvious why they were there, and perhaps even "make sense". Anyway I'm forging ahead with that plan so far. In drilling the hole I had bits that went from 1 mm to 1.5 mm in one step. Making that big step caused the plywood from the kit to crack, so I've just ordered a bit set from Otto Frei that includes almost each size by 0.1 mm increments from 0.6 to 2.3 mm.
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I've got the mast and yard shaped to my satisfaction, and am ready to start on the four shrouds. When gluing the hull the Amati instructions said "Make holes for shrouds, too". These would be in the upper strake located behind the shield rack. I didn't like that at the time and still don't since you'd have a rope tied around the gunwale. In some online searching I found these photos of the Saga Oseberg reproduction. One can see where they used the frames to anchor the shrouds, with what looks like a combination of holes in the frames and perhaps an iron ring (?). So I thought I'd drill holes in my frames and simply do that, but two problems arose: 1) I can't get a drill bit in there at that angle now; 2) it might interfere with placement of the oar racks. So I thought about adding four additional knees to anchor the two shrouds on each side of the mast. See photo below. The knees are just sitting there, only the lower one is somewhat shaped and has the hole drilled. Another option would be to blacken the 3mm brass rings I picked up, and screw those into the knees. Or omit the knees and screw the rings into the edge of the deck. The rings are also in the photo. Thoughts are welcome! Meanwhile, I am forging ahead with holes in the knees.
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Well,I don't feel qualified to offer feedback, constructive or otherwise, but think this is a fascinating method to make a sail. Probably not something I'll try yet, but it's looking nice!
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Really nice. So you masked and painted the sail and the paint didn't bleed under the tape? Is there a magic Norse spell required to accomplish that? I'll be crossing this bridge one of these weeks and have been debating on painted stripes, sewn panels of different colors, or simply a solid color. Thanks.
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Yesterday my wife and I were was helping a neighbor and she loaned me a 1972 National Geographic book titles "The Vikings". This drawing is on the book's title page. It shows an awkwardly stored shield. This is not so much to give you any ideas, but here's a quote from the books' foreword which might be of interest: The Society’s tradition of telling a story with pictures has resulted in a remarkable set of illustrations for this book, both photographs and paintings. Much labor has gone into the effort to recapture Viking Age scenes. In many cases source material was vague or nonexistent, and sometimes one of several interpretations had to be chosen. I hope and believe that the pictures will convey to readers the splendor and drama of the period, and that departures from any school of opinion will stimulate further research - Arne Emil Christensen, Jr., Curator, University Museum of Antiquities, Oslo Look forward to seeing what you do with the sail. Great link from, Steven. Thanks.
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Looks superb! As a kid I had a crazy fantasy to go down in Cousteau's saucer. Such a cool looking little craft. Your photo of it on the crane is iconic.
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That looks correct End Of The Line, guess I'll keep my rigged block, or maybe an iron ring. If you don't mind I'd like to use your idea for the rudder in this post. I think I can cobble that up and agree looks better than the kit part.
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Thanks for the comments guys, much appreciated. I thought about that, think I understand what you are saying, and it makes sense. I believe the kit intent is not to have the braces fixed at the sternpost, as Cathead notes based on the Skuldelev 2 reproduction. I just found this which seems (?) to show the hole in the stern, not a fixed brace: http://www.jans-sajt.se/contents/Navigation/Modelling/Patterns_Rigg_Viking.htm In any case, I appreciate the suggestion and may do something like that. At least I feel good not drilling that hole, even though I arrived at this point due to my own error. Moving forward and ready to stain the mast soon. Thanks again for comments and suggestion.
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Making progress on sanding the spars and beitass. Looking good as far as I'm concerned. However I did see a problem with my hull workmanship. Amati calls for a hole drilled in the stern keel for the braces coming from the yard. However, due to my poor job on the hull, the strakes are shifted too far aft and there is no room for that hole, unless I drilled the through strake or higher up in the dragon's tail. To be honest I wasn't crazy about the hole there anyway, so I decided I would lash some rope around the keel and use one of the kit supplied blocks for the brace. Something like so (first pass attempt, not glued or snugged up yet): Let me know if that is a bad idea, otherwise forging ahead here. I think it will look OK since that block matches the ones that will be hanging from the yard.
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Ditto that. Looking forward to what End Of The Line comes up with, as I haven't crossed that bridge yet, but I agree the Amati supplied piece looks out of place. There's one on this page that looks nice, scroll down to the second and third pictures. http://users.stlcc.edu/mfuller/ravensborg2014.html
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Looking really nice, sir. I have two of these kits and managed to break three trestles arms. I reinforced the mast fish trestle, but only with tapered pieces near the stem. What you did looks nice. I've glued that one to the deck, but I'm certain I'll break it off before I'm done.
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A quick post about a somewhat obscure and confusing (at least to me), part of the Amati Drakkar kit. Part number 46 is called "swinging boom steps" in the Amati English translation. The installation instructions are not clear and I've seen it installed at least three different ways in build logs or galleries. I think what Amati has in mind is to simply lay it against the bulwarks, something like this. But what the heck is it for? Some web searching led me to this page: http://www.worldtreeproject.org/exhibits/show/ships/shipfeatures I didn't fully understand that, but then I noticed the foldout picture of a Viking ship from National Geographic that I actually have on the wall of by my workbench. It shows one in action. And you can see the slots on the port side next to the man pulling on the line. My Osprey book calls the pole a beiti-***, instead of beitass, and the little part in question the beiti-*** block. Surprisingly I could find neither of those terms on MSW. The Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea has this to say: https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095456313 beitass: The old Norse name for a luff spar which was used in Viking ships, particularly the knarr, to hold the luff of the sail taut, thus enabling the vessel to claw off to windward. A step was fitted in the vessel just forward of the mast with one or two socket holes each side, and the end of the beitass was stepped in one of these when in use. Carry on.
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I agree, I'm a total newbie and will never have this kind of skill, but Olha's videos are indeed fantastic, fun to watch and professionally done. Thanks and congrats Olha.
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Still following along. Your posts are really interesting and your shields look good to me.
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Great job and log entry. I discovered that as well, but a little too late in the game. Nice idea using the pins also. I had trouble in the area too and came up with various clamping ideas, but pins seem like a good solution. There is a new MSW member, Stickman, he has about exactly this. Hopefully he sees your log.
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Yes, Matt has done a great job here, he's one of my heroes. I keep referring back to this log. FWIW, I tried scoring the planks using scrap pieces, the strips left on the sheet after the planks were removed. They were similar in thickness and shape to the actual planks. It didn't work for me. Either the score was too shallow, or else the test piece snapped. Hopefully you will have more success. Good luck Ric, and hope to see a build log from you.
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Thanks Eric! I'm thinking it will look OK too. Maybe I'll experiment with some additional lighting on photos, but I won't sweat that one. BTW, I did experiment on some scrap pieces with actually weathering the deck with various secondary colors, that was my original plan. But my experiments led to the conclusion that It's best to leave well enough alone. I may revisit.
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Thanks much for the comments guys, really appreciate it. The deck is down now and stained. It's pretty rough looking compared to most of the models on this website, but I'm pleased with it. After experimenting with several color options I wound up with a water based stain called Saman Golden Wheat that I ordered from amazon. I want to stick with water based paints because I don't have great ventilation in my work area and don't want to mess around with solvents. So easy to clean up with soap and water. Is it my imagination or do models look worse in photos than they do in person? I see all kinds of little flaws here, which must exist, but maybe some of them are increased by lighting glare. In any case, I'll have a look after I post this! Captain Aegir was struggling with the deck stain, decided he needed an Admiral by his side, and has been joined by Admiral Helga. She is pleased with color. I followed the Amati suggestion of staggering the planks, and decided to paint the mast fish. The piece supplied by the kit is copper colored metal, which I didn't like. I contemplated trying to carve one myself from a piece of wood, but am happy with the paint. For the two deck cross beams that are under the mast fish, I did not put any glue on that center. That allowed me to cut them away so the mast fish sits flush to the deck, which worked out fine. Here's a photo before the mast fish was glues in place. I used CA glue for that. Still having fun with this and generally satisfied with how it looks, given what I knew about my skill set going into this hobby. On the deck trestles next.
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Cool, I'll be glad to follow along if you don't mind, looks like she's coming along very nicely. Perhaps you have seen my stumbling efforts at building this kit, so I'm always glad to get pointers. I had the exact same thought about the dragon head, it looks a little corny. I haven't decided what to do but I have several pictures of various replacement options kind of like the one you show, but I'm uncertain of my ability to carve one. Your thoughts on pins vs cleats for the rigging has me thinking. Thanks.
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As you know I'm new to this hobby, but I'll concur having to unglue is not one of the more enjoyable things to be done! I've found it a necessary skill. 😁 Looks like you have it in hand. Those pictures from that Osprey book have a legend that I did not send you when I sent the other stuff. There, they call it a "shroud-pin or vantnale". A search on that turn up a Wiki page: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Saga_Oseberg_Details_shroud-pins_or_vantnales_to_secure_the_shrouds_to_the_hull,_gunwale,_oarholes,_knees,_deck_etc_Viking_ship_replica_2012_Tønsberg_harbour_Norway_2019-08-16_04305.jpg
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