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The rigging can be considered finished unless someone points out an anachronism worth improving (one side shown). There is little time left for this, as only the decoration needs to be designed now. Bowsprit rigging in all its 'glory' (i.e. both sides shown): And this render found its way here quite by accident:
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When it comes to chamfering and filleting, I try to use these only exceptionally. Basically for larger pieces and/or in situations where it can no longer be avoided, e.g. for knees. And in fact I always chamfer/fillet just one edge rather than all of them of one solid; fortunately the specifics of the project allow me to do this. Primarily because filleting/chamfering, widely applied, would increase the file size, complexity and handling time (e.g. rendering) many times over. Also because subsequent modifications of chamfered/filleted elements (as opposed to unchamfered ones) require much more time and effort. And there probably isn't a single part that I haven't modified three, four, five times and sometimes many more times... It is for this reason that I try to keep backups of the parts before applying filleting or chamfering, but this also complicates the task in itself.
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Thank you very much Fred for your comment and information! In the case of the Ann Royal, joining these pairs of single blocks together (as was sometimes done) would virtually give fiddle blocks, and a trivial euphroes from some arbitrary pieces of wood could have been successfully made even by a novice ship carpenter. This would have given exactly the set of blocks I came up with for the St George. Well, it may not be the simplest arrangement, but after all, one can also come across even more elaborate ones on the pictures. I would also add that information from you, on this issue or any other, is always among the most valuable. Thanks again, Waldemar
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Hello Ron, Not much data available for the first half of the 17th century. Apart from the well known work by Adrian Caruana, The History of English Sea Ordnance 1523–1875 with rather sparing information for this difficult period, there is also Journal of the Ordnance Society which you may investigate. Be that as it may, any existing sources were also certainly explored by Richard Endsor and the resulting interpretation presented in his works, which are all too easy to find on the web to list them here.
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Bowlines and Martnets. Mysterious martnets deserve more commentary because the configuration shown here, reconstructed by me on the basis of period iconography, was used here for the first time. With regard to this item, other modern historical reconstructions of ships' rigging (including the Vasa rigging reconstruction), were usually based on an unsatisfactory, not to say incorrect, interpretation of R.C. Anderson presented in his otherwise excellent as a whole work The Rigging of Ships in the Days of the Spritsail Topmast, 1600–1720. My interpretation of the martnets configuration, shown below, is first and foremost consistent with the iconography, is functional, can be simplified or elaborated as required, and can be flexibly modified, e.g. by lengthening or shortening pendants or by using different blocks (e.g. two single blocks instead of one double block at the stay, or a direct connection/combination of a dead block/euphroe with a single sheaved block).
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Many thanks Martes. Hmm, all ropes have their correct, individual thickness and there is not much you can do about that. The background... I'll try some more experimenting, as you suggest, but I guess that's for later, because the priority now is to draw all the missing elements, which fortunately aren't that many anymore. We'll come back to this issue later, because of course an objective, assertively expressed evaluation/opinion/review is always desirable for best results.
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Thanks Martes, however, that's down to the software developers rather than me. I just select the shots. The rigging from greater distances is quite ungrateful to render clearly and I'm trying various possibilities, as below, with clew lines added in the meantime. If you have any suggestions in this regard, please put them forward, of course. I would only add that this rather archaic appearance of the rigging as a whole is as much as possible intentional. Again, only one side shown.
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Thank you very much Roman. Not to discourage you, but it's quite a tough experience and you also have to fight the inevitable mental crises. But if you are consistent, I urge you to go ahead with such an endeavour. You will have immense satisfaction... The woodworking has already taken off (no admiral permission to show photos 🙂). I insisted on using 100% pear wood for the prototype model (scale 1:15), but the museum modellers opted for alder instead. I'm happy with the result anyway, because it looks almost as good, well, and I managed to successfully persuade them to not use oak wood at all. My model, if any, would be definitely out of pear and some ebony, and nothing else. Roughly aiming at the dominant style of modern Belgian and French modellers.
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All sheets and tacks (only one side shown). While my home laptop is probably no more powerful than NASA's hardware, it can still handle a file of about 600 MB.
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Of course I had noticed this before, I just recognised that it was not about the weather, but, for example, the notoriously polluted environment and murky water. 🙂
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Your models are just perfect for such group scenery with several ships. This is another very attractive advantage of them that is practically unavailable for very complex designs. Unless one has access to NASA computers, for example.
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Thank you and please be patient. Now just a quick demonstration of the effects. On the two-dimensional renders it may not be so visible, but all the blocks have the correct position and orientation in relation to the run of the ropes.
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At first I also tried to use 2D and 3D rotations, but this was a mistake. Time consuming and very inaccurate. I found a method that is relatively quick, straightforward and very precise at the same time. I will explain everything, but together with diagrams and a clear explanation, the preparation would take me at least one whole day, and I cannot afford it now. Please give me some time. Rather, weeks.
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I've written this before, but I'll reiterate that you have some kind of special gift for displaying the sexy features of ships. And that special care and feel in shaping the hull surfaces, which I find so appealing. "Small" masterpieces in their specificity and beyond...
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Yes, this is true. At first I was even going to not draw the rigging in 3D at all to save time, and instead make 2D sketches. But now, after gaining some practice and discovering some particularly useful tricks in Rhino, it goes very efficiently indeed. Even positioning the blocks in space at the correct angles is no longer a problem, but a pleasure. I love Rhino 🙂. The rigging configuration has been a variable over time and I do my best to guard against anachronisms. I have already mentioned some of the more important sources for this project in post #169, but in reality there are still more to be used. On the other hand, the rigging for one period was not uniform/standard either, so I have some leeway in choosing specifics.
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All braces completed. Only one side shown.
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Again, it all comes down to the fact that everyone has their own individual needs and possibilities, including financially, without forgetting about time, which can be even more valuable than money. In this sense, it can be considered that there is no single right. This is how I will conclude.
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Lieste, that's okay, yet, in my opinion you are looking for a hole in the whole, because no one here will even try to read these dimensions given in feet, inches, lines and points (although they are perfectly legible in the tables), they will most likely just do a quick, hassle-free redraw of the graphic. And also in this sense Boudriot's monograph may be even regarded as an overkill for the needs of this project. Also, try to explain to others (I don't need to), that they should be content with the gun barrels only without carriages and implements, and whether the 1786 artillery system can be used for the time of, say, the War of the League of Augsburg, the War of the Spanish Succession, the Seven Years' War or the War of American Independence.
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"Always" the same - economic input, economic output. I give up.
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Boudriot's monograph on French artillery of very limited use!? It holistically describes all the artillery systems of the period in question, not just one of them. And not only the gun barrels themselves, but also the carriages, tackles, gun utensils, etc. And it does so with a precision, clarity and reliability that presumably even exceeds the needs of this very project for which it is to be used. And all this in one book. But I admit, I didn't know beforehand that it was more about free, more or less random downloads from the web.
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Well, I don't get much opportunity to look at other threads, but here I can see that I'm missing out on a lot by doing so. What strikes me about your model is the attention to detail, precision and exceptional neatness of execution, but without that undesirable effect of excessive, artificial sterility. I wish "my" modellers here would also build my reconstructed ship to your standard, but I know they too have a deadline...
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This web page in Spanish is a misunderstanding. It is entitled "Spanish Naval Ordnance", and contains charts showing field guns (and only bronze).
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For the Spanish ordnance (most useful) – Enrique García-Torralba Pérez, La Artillería Naval Española en el Siglo XVIII. Su evolución técnica y su recíproca influencia con la arquitectura del buque, Ministerio de Defensa, Madrid 2010, ISBN 978-84-9781-591-8 (includes printed and digital (CD-ROM) reproductions of source documents and plans), – Juan José Navarro, Álbum del Marqués de la Victoria (1719-1756), Lunwerg Editores, Museo Naval Madrid 1995, ISBN 84-7782-352-9, ... and very, very rich (graphic) resources of the highest quality put online by Spanish national archives. For the French ordnance (really no more is needed) – Jean Boudriot, Hubert Berti, Artillerie de mer. France 1650-1850, Ancre, Paris 1992, ISBN 2-903179-12-3 (includes large reproductions of contemporary plans and drawings).
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