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allanyed reacted to Blue Ensign in HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Post One hundred and thirty three
Channel deadeyes re-visited
With extra supplies received I have re-checked the deadeyes for misplaced holes, replaced some, and re-made others.
With these standard deadeyes there is an outboard face usually better finished than the inboard face, and even if the holes are ok from outboard quite often they are out of line on the inboard side.
For the Topmast backstays and Mizen shrouds I have re-made the deadeyes using the kit 3mm + stock deadeyes which have been reduced in circumference.
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To this end my serving machine was brought into use in an attempt to reduce the size uniformly.
Threaded on a taut wire thro the holes, a sanding stick was held against the deadeye whilst turning, it seemed to do the trick.
I reduced the circ to the level of the groove and then re-grooved.
Some of the strops also needed reducing in size.
Finally w-o-p was applied to the surface of the Deadeyes.
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Despite all this extra work I prefer the more scale appearance of the now three deadeye sizes along the channels.
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The shipyard is closing now for a week whilst we enjoy the pleasures of the Gower Peninsula.
Sphinx is secured beneath her protective cover for the duration.
B.E.
18/06/2022
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allanyed got a reaction from dvm27 in dead eye twist
Below is text and a picture from David Lees' Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War, page 42.
"A deadeye was turned in the end, left handed if shroud laid rope was used, right handed if cable laid."
I think this would have the ends finishing up aft on the port side and forward on the starboard side for cable laid rope as Henry mentions.
This view is from inboard.
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allanyed got a reaction from BenD in dead eye twist
Below is text and a picture from David Lees' Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War, page 42.
"A deadeye was turned in the end, left handed if shroud laid rope was used, right handed if cable laid."
I think this would have the ends finishing up aft on the port side and forward on the starboard side for cable laid rope as Henry mentions.
This view is from inboard.
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allanyed got a reaction from robert952 in dead eye twist
Below is text and a picture from David Lees' Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War, page 42.
"A deadeye was turned in the end, left handed if shroud laid rope was used, right handed if cable laid."
I think this would have the ends finishing up aft on the port side and forward on the starboard side for cable laid rope as Henry mentions.
This view is from inboard.
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allanyed reacted to dvm27 in dead eye twist
Can you site a source for this statement? Lee's makes no mention of this and photos of contemporary models I am looking at show the end of the rope on the aft side port and starboard.
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allanyed reacted to Peter6172 in HMB ENDEAVOUR by Peter6172 - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - 1/65
Some limited rigging progress while I await the arrival of my next small batch of rigging from Ropes of Scale.
Fore course yard lifted on Jeers with the spritsail and spritsail topsail yard are rigged. I did the Fore course crowsfeet (took a lot more than the 120mm they suggested in the instructions) and the rigging so far is being finished with a 'cleat' hitch to secure before looping, tying and hanging the leftover without glue.
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allanyed got a reaction from Ian_Grant in HMB ENDEAVOUR by Peter6172 - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - 1/65
Shipaholic
I agree based on a few sources mentioned above. Hopefully you have others you can share. The truss pendants replaced parrels on the lower yards and were around much longer than in the Endeavour era, lasting from 1760 to 1850. The rope pendants did change in that they rove downwards from 1760-1810 then upwards to blocks in the trestle trees from 1810 to 1850 and finally replaced with chain pendants from about 1850 on.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from Peter6172 in HMB ENDEAVOUR by Peter6172 - FINISHED - Artesania Latina - 1/65
Peter,
This may not apply to a collier like the Earl of Pembroke, but according to The Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War by Lees, page 66, parrel rigging on the lower yards was superseded by truss pendants by about 1760. As Earl of Pembroke was launched in 1764 and acquired and renamed Endeavour in 1768, if she followed the RN methods she would never have had parrels on the lower yards. Marquardt's expertise was used in the construction of the replica
so it seems odd they did not use parrels but he shows them in his book. Obviously Marquardt and Lees did a LOT of research on rigging in general so choose your poison on this one.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from mikiek in Cleaning stained wood
You may get more responses on particular methods for the different parts from corroded guns to moldy deck if the pictures were all right side up. 😀🤪🤪 I got dizzy looking at them. When was the model built?
With all the other issues, it is good to see the rigging seems to have held up regarding aging. Matching this is something to watch for regarding material and color, making sure it is miniature rope, not thread from the local craft center. Good luck.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from thibaultron in Cleaning stained wood
You may get more responses on particular methods for the different parts from corroded guns to moldy deck if the pictures were all right side up. 😀🤪🤪 I got dizzy looking at them. When was the model built?
With all the other issues, it is good to see the rigging seems to have held up regarding aging. Matching this is something to watch for regarding material and color, making sure it is miniature rope, not thread from the local craft center. Good luck.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from Scotty W in dead eye twist
I may just be lucky but rarely have had this problem. Once the shroud is secured to the upper deadeye I hold the shroud between my thumb and forefinger at the top then run them down the shroud to get any twist out of it before running the lanyard through the deadeyes. Sometimes it takes a couple tries but it works.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from Ryland Craze in My First Kit Pick Ups.... Beginners Kit Recommendation?
What GRSJAX says! Best series for beginners to come along in our lifetime designed by one the most accomplished model builders and authors on ship modeling who also happens to be an active member here.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from mtaylor in My First Kit Pick Ups.... Beginners Kit Recommendation?
What GRSJAX says! Best series for beginners to come along in our lifetime designed by one the most accomplished model builders and authors on ship modeling who also happens to be an active member here.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from DeHammer in My First Kit Pick Ups.... Beginners Kit Recommendation?
What GRSJAX says! Best series for beginners to come along in our lifetime designed by one the most accomplished model builders and authors on ship modeling who also happens to be an active member here.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from Canute in My First Kit Pick Ups.... Beginners Kit Recommendation?
What GRSJAX says! Best series for beginners to come along in our lifetime designed by one the most accomplished model builders and authors on ship modeling who also happens to be an active member here.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from LFNokia in Santisima Trinidad by LFNokia - FINISHED - OcCre - 1:90 - Cross-Section
Interesting techniques.
Thanks for sharing your video.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in Polaris by ibozev - FINISHED - OcCre - 1:50
Your following the tutorials for planking has resulted in one of the finest planking jobs in the kit build logs here at MSW. It can serve as a lesson to others that no one is relegated to using the erroneous methods shown by some kit makers where many the planks fail to end at the rabbet as they should.
With this being your first build, the build log is even more impressive.
Allan
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allanyed reacted to grsjax in My First Kit Pick Ups.... Beginners Kit Recommendation?
The 3 kit combo is on sale for $78.65 with free shipping. Can't beat that price. https://modelexpo-online.com/Model-Shipways-Shipwright-3-Kit-Combo-Series_p_5465.html
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allanyed got a reaction from UMH in Landlubber from a landlocked country
Welcome Daniel,
I have had the very good fortune visit Grindelvald several times, including taking the tram to First. BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL country, even for those of us who do not ski.
I know freight is expensive these days, but the three model beginner series designed by David Antscherl and available through Model Shipways is possibly the best way to begin and learn good methods. Study the many build logs here at MSW and do some research on the actual vessels that you are considering so you can which best suit your desires. Not all kits are created equally when it comes to realism and quality.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from Oldsalt1950 in Albatros by kramer - FINISHED - OcCre - 1:100
Congratulations on your first build!!!! You should be proud of your accomplishment.
We ALL make mistakes in the beginning and most of us still make some (hopefully fewer) as we gain experience.
Neither.
You might benefit by looking at the kits from Vanguard, MS, and Syren via the build logs here at MSW before making a decision. Look at the quality of the little things like their blocks, gratings, sails and rope which are higher quality and more realistic in appearance.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from Keith Black in Albatros by kramer - FINISHED - OcCre - 1:100
Congratulations on your first build!!!! You should be proud of your accomplishment.
We ALL make mistakes in the beginning and most of us still make some (hopefully fewer) as we gain experience.
Neither.
You might benefit by looking at the kits from Vanguard, MS, and Syren via the build logs here at MSW before making a decision. Look at the quality of the little things like their blocks, gratings, sails and rope which are higher quality and more realistic in appearance.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from Keith Black in Landlubber from a landlocked country
Welcome Daniel,
I have had the very good fortune visit Grindelvald several times, including taking the tram to First. BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL country, even for those of us who do not ski.
I know freight is expensive these days, but the three model beginner series designed by David Antscherl and available through Model Shipways is possibly the best way to begin and learn good methods. Study the many build logs here at MSW and do some research on the actual vessels that you are considering so you can which best suit your desires. Not all kits are created equally when it comes to realism and quality.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from Dave_E in Landlubber from a landlocked country
Welcome Daniel,
I have had the very good fortune visit Grindelvald several times, including taking the tram to First. BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFUL country, even for those of us who do not ski.
I know freight is expensive these days, but the three model beginner series designed by David Antscherl and available through Model Shipways is possibly the best way to begin and learn good methods. Study the many build logs here at MSW and do some research on the actual vessels that you are considering so you can which best suit your desires. Not all kits are created equally when it comes to realism and quality.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from mtaylor in 2nd layer of hull plank installation question
Practically speaking, this is true, but as the keel tapers from midships both fore and aft, there is slight bending but not really enough to cause much aggravation. I may off base on this , but it seems most kits forgot to include the taper so it not a factor anyway. Just as an FYI, the taper varied slightly with time and maybe nationality. This example is from the 1719 RN Establishment - The width for a keel about 90 feet long would be 12" midships, 10.5" wide forward and 7.5" wide at the sternpost. For the Mayflower, if these were close dimensions of her keel, at a scale of 1:60 this would be about 0.2" (5mm) at midships, 0.125" (3.2mm) at the rabbet of the sternpost, and 0.18" (4.5mm) at the bow.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from mtaylor in Thoughts on lettering for models
There is an excellent article on putting the names on the sterns of British ships covering a wide period of time by David Antscherl in the new Spring 2022 NRJ, pages 73-79. It points out dates and types of lettering, and common errors including several incorrect versions that had once been on modern day Victory and modern day models. It would be great to see this posted at MSW for folks that are not members of NRG.
Allan.