Azzoun

You're speeding along, this model took me 6 months to build!  haha  

This was my first wood model and also used Hopeful's as inspiration.  She makes a beautiful little model and gets alot of complements!  Keep it up!

Joshua

AF, come down to Penns Landing at the Independence Seaport Museum on Saturday starting at 10A.  The Philadelphia Ship Model Society is hosting a ModelCon.  There will be ALOT of model ships, plus maybe you'll be interested to meet others who build ship models.  

Joshua 

Blue Jacket is about or has already released their new cross section of the Charles Morgan and I know they're working on the USS Oregon.  

On 1/18/2019 at 6:28 PM, keelhauled said:

Hi Harry,

 

G.F Campbell created a set of three plans which have been available through the Cutty Sark's gift shop for at least the past 28 years.  When I bought mine, they offered to stamp the plans with the ships original seal.  Campbell was a navel architect that as I understand it was commissioned to draw plans during the 1st half of the 20th century.  Campbell also wrote a couple books on clippers.

 

Lou, if you are following, perhaps you can give us some info.

 

as

this is a shot from my set of plans.  The plans are available from the website below.

   

The sail and rigging images are from the Cutty's shop website (link below)

 

I've purchased two sets of plans over the years, one set in 1990 another in 2003.  The quality of the 2003 set was much lower than the 1990 set, which was  very crisp and clear.  The 2003 set looked like copies of copies.  I recently was at the Cutty back in June and looked at the set for sale (which at that time only 2 out of the 3 plans were available).  The quality of the 2017 set was significantly better than the 2003 set.  They can be purchased in person at the ship's shop or online at https://shop.rmg.co.uk/collections/prints

 

The sail and rigging plans are 5 pounds and the general plan is 8 pounds

 

I don't know if these plans are the same as the Cutty Sark preservation Society plans.

From best I can find the Cutty Sark Presevation Society became the Cutty Sark Trust both under Prince Phillip. I have a couple of reports that the Trust put out concerning the plans for restoration.  Sometime between the restoration work starting on the Cutty and now, the Trust website redirected to the Royal Museums Greenwich site.  I'm sure someone can tell us what happened.  Maybe the Trust became a part of the RMG?  Any way, I've tried to search for plans from the Cutty Sark preservation society using google, without success.  So I can't answer your question about whether they are the same plans.

 

Longridge's plans are as they were when he visited the ship as she was being used as a cadet training ship.  She still retained major changes to the ship including a different fore castle and monkey poop/liverpool house with an aft entry and a completely different forward entry (both are retained to this day).  Campbell's plans are supposed to be "as built"  but we know that isn't true, because it includes the crew deckhouse.  However, they are the best plans I've seen.

 

Don't know if this helps, but at least you can see the thumbnail images of the plans of Campbell's plans for comparision.

 

thanks

Marc

Marc,

That website appears to be down now, any chance you'd be willing to make a copy and send them to me? 

Joshua 

Ahhh this photo brings back fond memories.   Picket is fun build!

Awesome detailed photos, thanks!

Bob,

Thanks for your continued detailed build log - i've taken a break from my PdN so I can reference your log later    

Joshua

I've used Sharpie Markers to paint things black with happy results.  

it's a shame all these postings aren't making it to the correct thread of "So where do you do yours" even though I'm guilty of it myself!

57 minutes ago, Trig said:

Im surprised noone commented on the amount of clamps in the first poster's pictures.  I really need to up my clamp game if thats a normal healthy amount 😋

 

I still live with my parents, so im stuck to one desk in the corner, but i get some serious workshop envy looking through threads like this. Though the small closet setups actually look very handy. I reckon if i had a big workshop, id spend most of my time hunting for misplaced items.

Actually, I spend probably half my time cleaning and putting things away because I get anxious when things aren't organized and clean.  lol 

I work mostly out of my garage but at times will gather small projects to work on a fold out table in the living room so I can be close to my wife and daughter.   The first pic is a little older than the subsequent two.   Here's the garage.     Best, Joshua

Zappto,

Any chance we could see the ship illuminated in a dimmer lit room?  It'd be awesome to see how much of her is lit up now.   I'm excited to see this finished!~

Joshua

I'm sending my request in today!

Bob,

I hear ya with the struggles of this model.   I've actually started to crutch off of a Syren kit someone had started but didn't finish in both parts and instructions.    Both ships are American built 2 masted vessels of similar size of the same period and the kits were the same scale.    Chuck's instructions have a lot more pictures and details especially around rigging the bow spirit, etc.  I've given up on the instructions that came with the PDN and am relying heavily on Chappelle's drawings and Reed's book.   The Syren came with photo etched parts for gun ports that I plan to use.     The Syren's instructions are on the MicroMark website for download in PDF.     

Josh

I live in S. Jersey, so you wouldn't have to ship albeit $400 is higher than I can afford to spend on that right now.  

Great progress so far!  I have this kit as well and I also had the same reaction to the cut-away section in the hull.   I also plan to just fully plank it solid.   

Joshua 

Impressive finishing work, love the weathering.

Just catching up on your build - i can't wait to see the cabin's lit up in the finished product. 

Josh

The needle of glue also works on a bottle of zap, see?   If the glue dries in the needle, hit it with a lighter but don't breath in the fumes    On a side note, i don't know how you can work with this medium, i think i would find it rather frustrating...

Another good resource may be this build log of a Flattie another member did, I thought he did a nice job and it's always helpful to see another's interpretation for some inspiration and/or understanding. 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/988-chesapeake-bay-flattie-by-teleman-intarsia-124-completed/?hl=flattie

Good luck, I'll be keeping an eye on your progress.  Just remember to have fun along the way, I'm working through my first wood kit build and things can get frustrating sometimes while you're learning. 

Josh

Todd,

 

The Chesapeake Bay is filled with history and stories of the people that worked the waters and in the surrounding towns.  College in Annapolis!!!  No wonder the Flattie spoke to you! 

For research, I would like to suggest Howard Chapelle's book "American Small Sailing Craft."  http://www.amazon.com/American-Small-Sailing-Craft-Construction/dp/0393031438/ref=sr_sp-atf_title_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1409451129&sr=8-1&keywords=American+Small+Sailing+Craft%2C#cm_cr_dpwidget

I would also like to suggest Mario's Chesapeake Flattie Intarsia build log. http://www.modelshipbuilder.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?5435

 

Take your time and enjoy the journey! 

 

Dee Dee

Todd,

If you're going to dive into buying any resource materials on ship history or modeling, you should check out abebooks.com.  I got three of chappell's books for under $20 with shipping.  They're donated library books and in awesome shape.  Highly recommend checking out that site for book purchases.

Josh

Piet,

You're lucky you don't live closer to me in New Orleans or I'd be knocking on your door for metal work lessons!  Would be worth a week's vacation if you offered them. 

Josh

True dat, always your build so the builder rules but… if you're going to build a ship of that size it will be a while before you get to the light portion of the show I would think so that decision is a tad early…Imo.

 

Maybe a good way to judge opinions will be to start a build log for the HMS Agamemnon and all along the way opinions will pop like mushrooms.  

Having said that, I like the idea of the view of a ship at sea.. at night… done right I bet it would be great.

mmmm Mushrrroooommmss