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Since we are talking about the Cutty Sark and even a Revell model I was wondering what people think about the Revell H-364:995 (1959) kit. I got an offer to buy a kit of this one (close to the price a 2017 model 0542 would cost. The seller says the box is lightly damaged but the content is complete, only one bag had to be rebagged since it was opened. Some parts are already out of the sprue but he´s certain that nothing is missing. I´m in the mood to like that kit somehow, more than the 2017 model (don´t ask me why). As far as I know it should be also the scale of 1:96 but not sure. I also don´t know about the accuracy of the kit and about the moulds, if the newer ones are more appreciated than the older ones? I mean, the kit is 65 yrs old (almost 9 yrs older than me). What is your opinion about the kit or should I avoid it of all cost?
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Thank you Steven for all the sources of information. I will have a look at all of those. I´m also reading in Danish and Norwegian history sites to find out how a crew of a merchant ship would have looked like. The regular crew were the Holumeen which were armed but not comparable to warriors (as far as I understood it). But I will have a deeper look into it and it looks like I have to change some other medieval figures in 1:24 since there is not much available in 1:25 at all. We will see, maybe I have to carve my own ones (even if I`m not good in carving people). The last option would be not to build a diorama but leave the ship on a nice stand as display model. I rather would prefer it in a diorama, sailing along a shore line... but when there is no crew - there won´t be a diorama since ships need a crew to sail... Micha
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I prefer much more the own little sail yacht, free choice of stopping points (harbours), free excursions and landing parties, much smaller, no crowded decks or restaurants and I get to eat what I want and not have to chose of something I might not like (and I love cooking)... but that´s just my personal choice. I love the freedom to go where ever I want with the sail boat and that it is much more private, even if you travel with friends (as guests / crew)... Micha
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Hi fellow model builders, I´m wondering if it would be worth to buy this set from Revell. Someone offers me the Revell kit H-364:995 from 1959. The price is quiet the one of the 2017 model Revell 0542. As far as the seller knows is the kit complete, all bags sealed (one bag has been resealed) and the box is still okiesh, some dents (which I expect for a 65 yrs old kit) but in general the entire box and kit looks good. I mean, the kit is 9 yrs older than me, so I have no clue about this kit. Is it worth it or should I get hold of the 2017 kit (someone else offered me for quiet a good price - cheaper than the 1959 kit). Micha
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Wow, I would like to have been there, never made it that far down to the south (maybe because of the cold temperatures) and I love foxes and like I said, don´t take any offense please. I just assumed that not many people have been down that far to the south nor would like to go there. I´m deeply sorry if you took it as an offense, was not meant to be. Again, I´m sorry about that, I just stated an opinion without any intent to critisise or offend someone. I read the post and I just tried to make an opinion about the importance or not importance of the colour of ice or icebergs. I´m again, deeply sorry Keith. Micha
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Very well done and congratulation to the 1st place. Looks amazing. Micha
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Thank you for that kind offer Mary Micha
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I know what you mean but on the other hand we don´t know how the "ice barrier" looked like. But the colour difference in icebergs and glaciers I can´t really retrace. To me the glacier (fresh water) on Annapurna (8,091m / 26,545ft in Nepal) doesn´t look blueish at all, looks more like you described the sea water ice) and some of the antarctic sea water looks the same colour or even more blueish than some icebergs. I think the lightning situation is key here. glacier on Annapurna, Nepal and some ice covered sea at Antarctica but an iceberg from Antarctica (South Shetland Islands) looks like this to me the colours all look alike, the grade of pollution with detrital, pebbles and mush might be not that high in icebergs therefore the glacier of mountain ranges like the Himalayas might be "dirtier" than the Antarctic ice but does it really make a difference in the colour of "white" even if white is not a colour but a shade (physically and scientific spoken). I think Glen`s ice looks great and not many will be able to prove the "colour" of it wrong because not many will have the funding and opportunity to travel to Antarctica ^^ (big mouth here lol) and some might not even want to go there ^^ Don´t get me wrong Keith, this is not a rant on your statement or any offense at all, I just think sometimes we should just not overthink too much about things like the colour of ice or some other colourations. I really appreciate and care about your opinion and statements, they mean a lot to me. I learned a lot of you, so please don´t get me wrong here. I know it is a strange topic to talk about, but does the colour of the ice really matter? We have folks that are colour blind, people that can´t see colour at all (achromatopsia) or just don´t care about the shade of white. I think as model builder we need the artistic freedom and fantasy to decide what we want to express and how we express it (especially since we don´t even know for sure if Jenny even existed)... Micha
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Hello Jay, a warm welcome from the northern coast of Scotland Micha
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I´m not funny here but for that money I can buy a Hallberg Rassy 44 and can sail around the world whenever I want to wherever I want. I would not even have to share my space with strangers but with friends (up to 4)... Micha
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Thank you Dean, I really appreciate your comments. I always learn something new from you. I realise that wooden ships are completely different to plastic models. But I accept this challenge for sure. I call them bulkheads because they remind me to the bulkheads in a sail yacht. I will change the term for them into molds, didn´t know that they are called molds. But still it looks completely different in the original ship as seen in the picture in my post. So for the BB kit it is ok but I would like to go more original with the cherry wood scratch build. I found a 1:20 Billing Boats "Skuldelev" kit, which seems more likely to the orignal ship to be build. Wondering if I get this one as example as well (is cheap, only GBP 59.00). Micha
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* The New Beginning * Chapter One - The Ribs? In the original BB kit are some ribs made to "bulkheads" even if the original Skuldelev 3 doesn´t have any bulkheads but only ribs, beam stanchions, beams and knees (see picture below - from the replica build in Denmark). The BB kit has the bulkheads, therefore I have to change the bulkheads somehow into the ribs that we can see in the original ship. Then I have to create the beam stanchions to support the beams and the knees on top of all this to connect the planking. On the picture below you can see the half bulkheads from the BB kit attached to the half keel, the few ribs that came with the kit are not yet installed during this process. My plan is now to use the original bulkheads from the kit as stencil (the paper cut outs) and try to figure out how the ribs for this places in the ship would look like. I will use the provided ribs of the kit as pattern since shape should be equal (except the size). I might need some runs to find the proper shape and size for the ribs. The parts needed for the scratch build are described here as well, also the keel loocks different in shape than the provided keel from the BB kit. It also looks like the keel is made of different parts, there is a bottom part shaped like a "T" and then the inner keel on top of it. Not sure if this in the original is one piece and carved or two pieces atatched to each other. Micha
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Slip Rollers are more used to bend metal sheets completely, an english wheel is more used to create something more complex like a fender for a car or an unregular hull. You get smaller (benchtop english wheels) but still, I can´t see any use for a scale model builder, except you use it every day. using an english wheel to create a fender Use of s slip roller to create a "tube" or "half pipe" Amazon: Benchtop English Wheel but still quiet big to just put underneath the bench or into a cabinet. Micha
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Hi Johnny an thank you. I was thinking of the rivets (iron nails and roves) for the planking, but I´m more thnking about it for the scratch build. But when I find a proper way I might do it with the BB kit as well. Micha
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* Chapter Two * The Jig for the BB Roar Ege (not the scratch build) I’m not sure if this will be of a help but that’s the easiest way I could think of to support my full build instead of two halves (since the entire keel is glued already). We will see how much it might support me in this build but I’m convinced it is ok. Will keep you guys updated. Have to glue the “bulkheads” first and will build some support frame to glue them on in a 90 degree angle, not sure yet how to do so but maybe by using 10x10 mm wooden sticks with a 3 mm sheet on top so I can lean it from behind against the bulkhead to glue it to the keel. Here are the two 10x10 mm sticks, maybe just connect a 3 mm sheet plank on top so the "bulkhead" can lean against it so I get the 90 degree angle, at least that is what I hope to archive. Maybe I put some cuts into the ground board so the sticks get hold in place (but not sure how exact this will be. Micha
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nahhh, don´t think so 😇 depends on the angle you put the ship into the cabinet As a carpenter you should be able to "extend" the cabinet a bit come on, it´s an easy task ^^ But joke aside, I get that point, my problem is that I just like the bigger scales myself, fortunate I have the space (at the moment, don´t know about space after three ships lol) but there is always a space for a ship though, does it have to be the cabinet? Can you not take out a wall between two spaces in the cabinet (often they are divided into a couple of spaces separated by walls... I did this once, didn´t look well, had to line it with black silk, which fair enough was a great background for the U.S.S. Enterprise 1701-D in the cabinet, but that doesn´t work all the times, especially when the wifey is a bit... against it lol (at this time I was just widowed from my first wife so no one cared much about it Micha
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Thats why I advised him not to buy one but using some rollers or balls (metal) or evdn tge hull itself and hammer it. During my apprenticeship as a car mechanic for Mercedes Benz we used an industrial english wheel for body works (but I never mastered the thingy). Can´t see the point in buying one for model ship building, especially since the ones available for "hobby" use are way to big and bulky and not really of use at all as long as you don´t plan to do a hull every week or day...
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Hello @MBerg and welcome to MSW. I hope you will enjoy the journey and the tools you got. At least the models look nice you chosen to start with. I had tons of tools already so it was easier for me but hey ho, nothing is perfect and so aren´t we, we are humans, never been expected to be perfect lol Like I said, enjoy the journey and all the best health wise... Micha
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Best idea ever ^^ just the costs for that, not sure if it wouldn´t be cheaper to get smaller models Micha
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What do you mean? I´m pretty sure (depending when you became member of the NRG) you can buy the back dated issues for atm USD 9.00 though. When you bought them you can read them by receiving a link to download them or read them online. At least that happened with #69 for me. Here is the link to the back issues (not covered by the USB sticks). Micha
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For a "small" fortune, that is the issue lol. And what do you mean by "living" on it? Depending what you plan to do living on a sailboat can be much cheaper and easier than living in a house. But not if you are mooring in a nice yacht club or marina lol Micha
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I know what you mean, I wanted a third and last Atlantic crossing or maybe even a circumnavigation in a sail yacht but my shoulder doesn´t allow it anymore. I would need a sail yacht with "push button sailing" like the HR 44 - 57 or a crew to sail the yacht but where is the point of a cruise if you need a crew to sail for you? Unfortunately I´m not wealthy enough for a Hallberg Rassy (that´s why I´m planning a scratch build of one for my living room). Therefore I have to give up on the plans for a last crossing or even a circumnavigation. But still another dream is possible, once driving along the Silk Road (PanAmericana I have done already - even if I would fancy a second run with a different route). Micha
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Still an amazing job, I always adored folks that could do SIB, I just can´t do it, my hands and wrists won´t allow it and my eyes for sure not. Way to small the stuff but I love looking at those. I have seen some really nice SIB builds, there was once a SIB of the "Gorch Fock I in rough sea" and it looked amazing. Also I have seen a SIB scene with the three Columbus ships... I loved those. Micha
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