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Here is the manual Simon and the two pages. This is Fig. 1 (Page 9) and this is Fig. 1A (page 10 - as we can see, mirrored to Fig. 1) And this is the explanation HOW to do it... unfortunately not connected to the figures but later. So therefore you just go ahead, glue it all together (like the figures show and booom... to late lol To be honest, in my humble opinion the text is not even clear about it and somehow contradictionary abput how to do it. I really don´t understand how they want to do it in two halves but then write that you should glue the "keel" (which I got explained is called spine) together (which I did). But maybe it is my understanding or language barrier... I have no clue, it still works for me, so I don´t worry at all, was just a bit more complicated (even if I´m not sure about that). Micha
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Hi Simon, when I read and follow the plan indeed. Unfortunately the plan makes step 2 before step 1, that´s why I mistaken glued the entire spine already together before I read that I have to cut out the two drawings (was wondering why there is a mirrored drawing of the assembly on two pages) and glue them onto a board to build each side... after glueing the spine together this plan wouldn´t work anymore lol so I decided to go the way I do now. Also helps me to get the parts cut out of cherry wood sheets to create a more accurate (orignal build) version of the Skuldelev 3 from scratch. This will take longer but I will post both builds on here, I don´t create a second LOG for the scratch build since theis one is build out of the BB build somehow. Micha
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I would think so but I´m not an expert about ratlines. But just by logic I would say it should be easier and safer to fit the shrouds and ratlines. But I would make sure that the mast is properly secured and fixed, if the mast collapses the entire work is ruined and you start again. Micha
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* Chapter Three * The BB Roar Ege Build goes on - not by Plan Since I glued the parts of the spine already together (parts 1F, 2A and 3 - each twice) I couldn’t follow the plan anymore since the plan goes by building two halves. Therefore I needed a jig somehow to keep the spine upright to attach the molds. The next step was now to glue the molds together, meaning left and right side (mirrored parts 4, 6A / 6F and 9A / 9F). Then I sanded the spine in an oval shape around the middle part to fit snuggly in the parts 5A and 5F which both are ribs which will be placed on the spine between molds 4, 6A and 6F. After sanding the spine they snuggly fit onto it Now I had only to sand the center part of the spine (where all spine parts are glued between the two supporting parts 3 to fit on the center mold part 4. I also (not glued yet) added the ribs 5A / 5F, 7A / 7F and 8A / 8F as well as the molds 6A / 6F to see how the spine with the ribs and molds would look like. For the molds 9A and 9F I have to build a support to keep them in angle to glue them because the notch in the bottom is so thin and fragile that they won’t stay straight by themselves. When the support is ready I will put another post up. That’s it for the moment, update will follow, preparing supper now. Micha
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What shall I say David, that´s unfortunate, I would have insulated the boat and would have stayed on it even if I have to say... WA can become pretty cold in winter. But I love living on a boat and I wish I could afford it nowadays but my job doesn´t allow living on a boat but who knows, retirement maybe will be the time to go back onto a sail boat. Quiet a nice boat, I prefer sail boats over motor boats but both have their advantages and disadvantages. A nice size to live on it. Never have been there but what I can see (Google Maps and Google Earth) a nice place to live. Close enough to Seattle but far enough tho have this charme of a small town. I love small towns and villages (that´s why I live in a small fishing village). Micha
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well done sir... looks good Micha
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That is what I was thinking of, refitting it with wooden masts stuff, most likely it`s the hull, even the decking I would replace with a wooden one though. Batteling myself here lol, should I or should I not... Micha
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That´s what I think personally... the result counts and as long as everyone recognises an iceberg... it´s fine Micha
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Hi Eric and thank you. True and valid point even if an half unloaded ship without crew doesn´t make sense (to me) but moored to a wharf sounds more legit, the crew could be in a near tavern for a drink or some rest. Thank you for that ideas, my idea was just to display the ship in a rough sea close to a shore line... but ideas are not always possible to do... Micha
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I´m sorry to be the one telling you but a scale model set into the gulf stream might survive for maybe a week, if so long and then it will just capsize. I crossed the Atlantic twice and know the conditions in this regions. The waves on a sunny calm day might already to much for a 100 cm long scale boat, especially since no one will be there to take actions to avoid being swallowed by the swell. The copper or metal sheeting won´t secure the ship for that, they just might keep it floating a few days longer but that`s it. As long as the ship is not completely water tight, doesn´t have the proper buoyancy, ot will sink within days. Meaning you would have to build a scale model that doesn´t allow any water inside at all and has enough buoyancy to stay afloat in any condition. But then you won´t need a metal sheeting but some proper coating or maybe using glassfiber to protect the hull and installations on deck. This would be quiet a job to find the proper buoyancy for this ship. Sounds like an interesting project but still doesn´t justify an english wheel, in this case I wouldn´t even use metal sheets but glassfaser or a really good coating like real sail yachts would use. I really appreciate you dedication for such a project would be nice to have more people that much dedicated and caring for the wishes of others. Bowing to you for that. Micha
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I heard about that Keith, even if I never had any issues with plastic models (but have to admit, none of mine was 65 yrs old). In the pictures it looks quiet well and when I believe the seller it has been stored in the closed box on a dry attic, so nothing that could have harmed the plastic except the age itself and the age deteriation of the meterial. Still want the model kit somehow, don´t know why... it looks more interesting than the newer ones. The only thing that holds me back is the price, it is almost the price of a new kit. Micha
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So in other words, getting my hands on the 1959 kit might be agood choice? Micha
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Since we are talking about the Cutty Sark and even a Revell model I was wondering what people think about the Revell H-364:995 (1959) kit. I got an offer to buy a kit of this one (close to the price a 2017 model 0542 would cost. The seller says the box is lightly damaged but the content is complete, only one bag had to be rebagged since it was opened. Some parts are already out of the sprue but he´s certain that nothing is missing. I´m in the mood to like that kit somehow, more than the 2017 model (don´t ask me why). As far as I know it should be also the scale of 1:96 but not sure. I also don´t know about the accuracy of the kit and about the moulds, if the newer ones are more appreciated than the older ones? I mean, the kit is 65 yrs old (almost 9 yrs older than me). What is your opinion about the kit or should I avoid it of all cost?
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Thank you Steven for all the sources of information. I will have a look at all of those. I´m also reading in Danish and Norwegian history sites to find out how a crew of a merchant ship would have looked like. The regular crew were the Holumeen which were armed but not comparable to warriors (as far as I understood it). But I will have a deeper look into it and it looks like I have to change some other medieval figures in 1:24 since there is not much available in 1:25 at all. We will see, maybe I have to carve my own ones (even if I`m not good in carving people). The last option would be not to build a diorama but leave the ship on a nice stand as display model. I rather would prefer it in a diorama, sailing along a shore line... but when there is no crew - there won´t be a diorama since ships need a crew to sail... Micha
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I prefer much more the own little sail yacht, free choice of stopping points (harbours), free excursions and landing parties, much smaller, no crowded decks or restaurants and I get to eat what I want and not have to chose of something I might not like (and I love cooking)... but that´s just my personal choice. I love the freedom to go where ever I want with the sail boat and that it is much more private, even if you travel with friends (as guests / crew)... Micha
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Hi fellow model builders, I´m wondering if it would be worth to buy this set from Revell. Someone offers me the Revell kit H-364:995 from 1959. The price is quiet the one of the 2017 model Revell 0542. As far as the seller knows is the kit complete, all bags sealed (one bag has been resealed) and the box is still okiesh, some dents (which I expect for a 65 yrs old kit) but in general the entire box and kit looks good. I mean, the kit is 9 yrs older than me, so I have no clue about this kit. Is it worth it or should I get hold of the 2017 kit (someone else offered me for quiet a good price - cheaper than the 1959 kit). Micha
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Wow, I would like to have been there, never made it that far down to the south (maybe because of the cold temperatures) and I love foxes and like I said, don´t take any offense please. I just assumed that not many people have been down that far to the south nor would like to go there. I´m deeply sorry if you took it as an offense, was not meant to be. Again, I´m sorry about that, I just stated an opinion without any intent to critisise or offend someone. I read the post and I just tried to make an opinion about the importance or not importance of the colour of ice or icebergs. I´m again, deeply sorry Keith. Micha
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Very well done and congratulation to the 1st place. Looks amazing. Micha
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Thank you for that kind offer Mary Micha
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I know what you mean but on the other hand we don´t know how the "ice barrier" looked like. But the colour difference in icebergs and glaciers I can´t really retrace. To me the glacier (fresh water) on Annapurna (8,091m / 26,545ft in Nepal) doesn´t look blueish at all, looks more like you described the sea water ice) and some of the antarctic sea water looks the same colour or even more blueish than some icebergs. I think the lightning situation is key here. glacier on Annapurna, Nepal and some ice covered sea at Antarctica but an iceberg from Antarctica (South Shetland Islands) looks like this to me the colours all look alike, the grade of pollution with detrital, pebbles and mush might be not that high in icebergs therefore the glacier of mountain ranges like the Himalayas might be "dirtier" than the Antarctic ice but does it really make a difference in the colour of "white" even if white is not a colour but a shade (physically and scientific spoken). I think Glen`s ice looks great and not many will be able to prove the "colour" of it wrong because not many will have the funding and opportunity to travel to Antarctica ^^ (big mouth here lol) and some might not even want to go there ^^ Don´t get me wrong Keith, this is not a rant on your statement or any offense at all, I just think sometimes we should just not overthink too much about things like the colour of ice or some other colourations. I really appreciate and care about your opinion and statements, they mean a lot to me. I learned a lot of you, so please don´t get me wrong here. I know it is a strange topic to talk about, but does the colour of the ice really matter? We have folks that are colour blind, people that can´t see colour at all (achromatopsia) or just don´t care about the shade of white. I think as model builder we need the artistic freedom and fantasy to decide what we want to express and how we express it (especially since we don´t even know for sure if Jenny even existed)... Micha
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Hello Jay, a warm welcome from the northern coast of Scotland Micha
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I´m not funny here but for that money I can buy a Hallberg Rassy 44 and can sail around the world whenever I want to wherever I want. I would not even have to share my space with strangers but with friends (up to 4)... Micha
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