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Hi, Mark, Mark here I just happened across this build. I like the lines and neatness of your work but my eyes are specifically drawn to the contrasting wood tones. It would be an absolute crime to paint this. You have another follower, sir. -
I am going to hop on board here and follow along, Trevor. I am intrigued as to how this will turn out, I have no idea what a sailing pram is and, to be honest, I don't want to even research it. I would like to see it unfold before my eyes right here.
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Firstly, Trevor, thank you so very much for your in depth explanation, I have certainly learned something there (I now know what a counter is!) If the truth be told, I had not intended for the last image of my post to have the second schooner in it, I did have a cropped version that I wanted to drop in there. In retrospect, I am now glad I did. Your insights have helped immensely, sir. As far as the kit goes, I view it as, shall we say, a baseline on which to build the model up from as historically correct as possible, with the provided plans, in places, being substituted with these drawings. At this point, I fully intend to attempt the more difficult stern option. I do not want to "blow my own trumpet" here, but I do have a fair bit of experience as a woodworker (we're talking years here) and, when I set my mind to something, I tend to stick to it and see it through. I have a feeling this build will be a steep learning curve but it is one I am looking forward to getting my teeth into. Again, my thanks for your insights, they are truly appreciated.
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Thanks mate, much appreciated.
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I just discovered something rather interesting. I had a screenshot on my desktop of the Lynx plans. I have no recollection of where it came from. I have read @Gaffrig's build log on this vessel and he had picked up on something from some other plans regarding the transom on the Musquidobit: There was a difference between this one and the images in the kit: Looking at the Lynx plans it is my opinion that the kit must have been modeled originally from the Lynx lines (I have no proof or concrete evidence of this). Look at the difference in the transom on these plans. First the Lynx: Now the Musquidobit: The Lynx plans show the keel going straight (at an angle of course) up to below the main transom. On the other plans, however, there appears to be a "dip" in the run of the keel. @Gaffrig described it as another transom in his log. This is another area of the model that will need some "reconstructing".
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After a lot of discussion back and forth I have decided to go with what I believe is a cotton/polyester mix (nice light, thin fabric) for the sails. The mother-in-law was a quilter for many years and, while we were going through her stuff with her in preparation for selling her house, she found said material. I have cut it to size and handed it off to the sewing department here at home 🤭 😂 At this point I am just going to have the mainsail fitted and see what she looks like. I may just furl the rest but that decision will be made at a later date.
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Steve, a very warm welcome to the forum, sir. It sounds like you have a plan in place already. Have fun on your journey!
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Trevor, that is exactly how my good lady says it Thank you for dropping by, sir. It is very much appreciated.
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I had the plans from Chapelle's book enlarged at our local library: We can see on these plans that the length on deck is 94' 7" (according to maritime regulations, "length on deck" is defined as the horizontal distance between the forward-most and after-most points on a specified deck, measured along the deck, excluding sheer). Using the info from the NRG spreadsheets for modeling calculations here which I programed into a Google sheet, we can also see that the length of the Musquidobit, as measured by the English in 1816, would have been (scaled down to 1:64 scale) very close to 17.75 inches: I measured the deck on the kit plans and I got a whole different number: I also measured the model itself: From what I see we have 18.5 inches here. Before I go much further with the build I am going to take a good look at the 1816 plans and see what I can do. Exciting times.
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Thank you, Phil, I will certainly do that. A question, sir, is the rigging on the existing replica anywhere near similar to the original build (taking into consideration that there is apparently not a lot of information on the original rigging)?
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Ha ha, love it!
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Thank you, Phil. I hope to be able to work on that this morning (and not house renovations )
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Welcome aboard! I look forward to seeing your first build!
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CAD file 3D printing question
SaltyScot replied to CPDDET's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
I would gladly take a look at that for you, sir. I am not saying I can fix it, but I do have a lot of experience in 3D design and could at least look at the file in my program. Just message me if you need help. -
Nice workmanship, sir. I enjoy dropping by and seeing this.
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Yep, I know those only too well, Glenn. The whole thing looks great, such neat work. I'm a fan
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I would need a drawing with very large pictures to keep me on track with all this 😮 Very nicely done, Glen, it looks so precise.
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Wow, Phil, I am amazed at your knowledge sir! I think you and I will be in close contact throughout this build, I will need to pick your brain if I may. Firstly, I will dissect this reply here and see if I can see what you saw. Thank you, truly, it is evident I have an awful lot to learn about these vessels and I am looking forward to it.
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I am honored, Peter. Thank you.
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I am in a similar position. I have the OcCre kit sitting on my shelf waiting for room on the table. Once I compete my Lynx build, the Endurance will be next. Like you implied, there are a wealth of resources here and different build logs to help us along once we do get started. Bon Voyage!
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The first order of business was to identify the relevant bulkhead pieces and match them to the ones in the plans. A few of these pieces are extremely similar in size and I had to do some precise measuring to be able to determine exactly which one was which (which is why there is more than one number on some of the pieces). The pieces were then carefully removed, lightly sanded to remove any leftover burrs and dry fitted to the keel. It all looked good and straight but it was evident that some of the bulkheads were not sitting flush with the top of the false keel. The worst bulkhead was # 11. I will shim all the necessary ones once I finally glue them all in place. I clamped a spare plank along the bulkheads to get a feel for the run of the planking lines. It didn’t look all that bad actually. Once I raise bulkhead #11 to its rightful place this may change somewhat.
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I have decided to embark on an exciting new project that promises to be both challenging and rewarding for me, the Panart "Lynx" 1812 Baltimore Clipper/Schooner build. Stock Image In preparation, I have thoroughly examined numerous build logs of the Lynx from both MSW (including Gaffrig's build, and this one from Don) and other platforms. A common theme among these logs seemed to be the need for modifications to the kit to enhance historical fidelity. This has prompted me to conduct extensive research on the Lynx, because the historical significance of this vessel has certainly fueled my enthusiasm for accuracy. One of the more challenging realizations is the lack of original build plans for the Lynx itself. The only substantial drawings available are the draughts drawn up by the English after capturing her, renaming her Mosquidobit and sending her to England. (You can read her history here. Source: Wikipedia) I have found invaluable insights (including said drawings) in Howard Irving Chapelle's book, “The Baltimore Clipper,” as well as from the generous contributions of fellow forum members here who have provided references and resources - thank you all for your support! My intention is to model this ship based on Chapelle’s plans for the Mosquidobit, (from pages 82 through 85 of his book), in order to achieve the highest level of historical accuracy possible. And so, my journey begins anew…
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Well, Chris, from where I am sitting I think you are doing a very nice job of her. Sure, a trained craftsman's eye (which I definitely don't have by the way) would pick up the small differences but how many of them do you have visit you on a daily basis? As far as your boating hiatus goes, it will be the same for me once fishing season starts again, I will be either out on my dock or out in our boat fishing!! Very excited about that. My only suggestion for the dust issue would be a spray can of compressed air perhaps? If you don't get it too close to the model when you use it, you should be able to blow away a lot of the dust. Keep on going like this, she is a beauty!
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