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@wefalck @JerryTodd @giampieroricci Hello, I would like to thank you very much for your interest and contributions. And of course, many thanks to everyone else for the likes. Hello colleagues, I've tried to summarize the information I gathered some time ago about the brace routing for my French corvette in a diagram for further rigging work. If you're interested, please zoom in! I hope you'll forgive me for only labeling it in German. But the pictures will explain it to some extent.
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@albert @SaltyScot @Keith Black Hello, It's nice to see that there's still interest in my model after so long. Thank you and everyone for the likes. Continuation: Fore braces / Bras de misaine Before installing the fore braces, I revisited my question regarding the attachment of the standing parts to the stays and tried to gather further information on this topic. Ultimately, based on advice from colleagues in relevant forums, I came to the conclusion that a rolling hitch seems quite appropriate here. In French, this is called an amarrage à fouet. Before attempting the model, I tried tying a knot on a piece of rope. The loose line was secured to the stay using seizing. I find this solution plausible and will therefore implement it accordingly on the model. In this context, there was still a need for clarification regarding the routing of the fore topsail braces, since, according to the monograph, their standing parts should also be attached to the mainstay, where the fore braces are also attached. However, the original Paris model shows the routing of the fore topsail braces differently than in the monograph. The standing parts run upwards to the main topmast stay where they are tied, as shown in the following illustration. The aforementioned routing of the topsail braces was obviously quite common at that time. It should also be noted that the ship models from around 1800 in the Musée de la Marine have split foremast braces, i.e., the running parts run downwards via blocks on the mainstay for mooring, and the standing parts are attached to the main topmast stay. This is also how it is shown and described in the Harland. Therefore, I am once again following the Paris model and not the monograph. To be continued...
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@jdbondy @SaltyScot Thank you so much for your kind comments. I'm very happy about that, and also about the likes from others. JD, yes, that's the silk yarn I use. I also use a silk yarn from KIMONO. Continuation: Fore yard – Sheets and Tacks / Écoutes et amures After some back and forth, I finally decided on the cable version and have now attached the sheets and tacks on the starboard side. For the model cable version, I tried to lay the required ropes as loosely as possible. This resulted in a cable that wasn't too stiff. The first picture shows the arrangement of the sheet, tack, and clew line blocks, which are connected by toggles, as I won't be attaching any sails. The next picture shows the route of the port fore tack on the boomkin with shoulder block. The standing part is protected against chafing in the front area. The standing part of the fore sheet, as can be seen in the last picture, is also protected against chafing in the rear area. The fore sheet runs over a sheave in the ship's side for securing to a cleat. To be continued...
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Continuation: Foresail – Sheets and Tacks Before I began attaching the sheets and tacks for the fore sail, I made a few more attempts at making the corresponding ropes, as shown in the following picture. As already described several times, the sheets and tacks for the foresail and mainsail of this corvette were made of so-called grelins (cable less than 12 French inches thick). According to Boudriot's monograph, the diameters of the sheets for the foresail are 30 mm (1:48: ø 0.63 mm) and for the tacks are 23 mm (1:48: ø 0.48 mm). Due to the yarn used, the diameters for the model can only be approximated as closely as possible, for example, 2 x 3 r x 3 l with YLI Japanese silk yarn, which results in a diameter of 0.62 mm. This isn't always as accurate as in the example given here. In this context, I noticed in the monograph that the topsail sheets are thicker than those of the lower sails. The fore topsail sheet therefore has a diameter of 34 mm. After clarifying this matter, which I initially suspected was a mix-up, Gerard Delacroix kindly explained to me that this deviation is quite normal. He referred to "Manuel de gréement par F.-A. Costé, Paris 1829." According to this, these ropes are calculated according to a specific ratio based on the ship's dimensions. The ratio of the sheets for the topsail to the fore topsail is 0.065/0.075. From a purely visual perspective, I believe the left-handed rope would be the better result for the model, as the structure is clearly visible from a normal viewing distance, which isn't as noticeable with the cable-laid rope. But knowing that the cable-laid ropes are closer to the original doesn't make this decision any easier. To be continued...
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Continuation: Fore yard - Lifts / Balancine I have already reported in detail on the design and attachment of the La Créole's lower yard lifts in a few previous posts. For their final installation, the only remaining question was how long the lift tackles should be to enable the required maneuvers of these yards. Despite intensive research, I was unable to find any decisive information on this. Accordingly, I based my work on the description in Jean Boudriot's monograph on La Créole. For the tackles I had already prepared some time ago, all I had to do was pull the ropes through the swivel hooks and attach the seizings. The tackles were then attached to the channels using eyebolts. I secured the lanyards, which were routed over redirect blocks, to the inside of the bulwark, as shown in the following photo. Next comes the attachment of the sheets and tacks for the fore yard, which I still have to make as so-called Grelins (in English, cablet: left-handed). Whether I make them only as left-handed hawsers or actually as a cablet is still open. With a diameter of approximately 0.6 mm for the model, the rope would probably be too stiff as a cablet, which I discovered in my initial tests. But more on that soon...
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@albert Hello, First of all, I would like to thank you for your interest in my model building. Let's continue with a small detail: Continued: Running Rigging - Seizings Before I continued rigging my French corvette, here the lifts of the fore yard, I asked myself the fundamental question of how and with what I should perform the required seizing of the running rigging. In my search for an example of original rigging, I found what I was looking for in the replica of the L'Hermione. This appears to be the fore topsail halyard, a similar situation to the one used to attach the tackles for the lifts. As discussed several times in another forum, the running rigging was also lightly tarred, as was the spun yarn for the seizing. In the following picture, I have compared three possible seizings for my model with the example from the L'Hermione. Accordingly, I'll opt for the top option, as I believe it's closest to the original. As already mentioned with the standing rigging, the need for thimbles for a sailing ship model is enormous. This, of course, also applies to the running rigging. Therefore, I'll have to make some more thimbles. To be continued...
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Continuation: Attaching the fore yard - Vergue de misaine - with running rigging Following up to my previous post, here are two more pictures and a brief explanation of how to make a seizing for the sling directly on the model. The first picture shows me holding and securing the two sling ropes together with tweezers on the left. Using the tweezers on the right, I then wrapped the yarn (spun yarn) around the two ropes. I then pulled the yarn through twice between the ropes, perpendicular to the winding. Finally, the end was tucked under one of the two yarns and pulled tight in the middle. I only soaked the free end of the yarn with a tiny amount of superglue. Thin superglue penetrates the yarn well, so that even after trimming off the excess yarn, it is still sufficiently secured. The goal is to make the superglue completely unnoticeable, which doesn't always work perfectly. It's very important not to get the superglue on the seizing itself. Otherwise, the superglue will negatively affect the appearance of the seizing. The result can be seen in the second picture: I hope I made that clear. To be continued ...
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@dvm27 Hello Greg, Thanks for your interest, and I'm genuinely happy if I can give a master model maker some inspiration. Obviously, my translation is a little misleading, so I apologize for that. But I tried to explain that the ends of the truss pendants with the integrated thimbles don't go through the sheaves in the trestle trees. Therefore, the thimbles can only be inserted after the ends of the truss pendants have been pulled through, as in the original. For a better understanding, I've illustrated this situation with a picture. I think this type of truss pendant is probably very specific to French rigging in the early 19th century.
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@wefalck @jdbondy @matiz @albert Thank you very much for your encouragement. It's very motivating, especially when it comes to the very tricky work in the rigging. You always have to be extremely careful not to get caught on something. Also, many thanks to everyone for the likes. Continuation: Attaching the fore yard - Vergue de misaine - with the running rigging Attaching the seizings to the slings was child's play compared to tying thimbles to the ends of the truss pendants. The prepared truss tackles will then be hooked into these thimbles. Therefore, the thimbles could only be tied in afterward. Before doing so, a section of the serving at the rope ends had to be removed. As already mentioned, I then hooked the prepared truss tackles into these thimbles and the corresponding eyebolts on the cap and led the running ropes down over redirection blocks to the fife rail behind the foremast for belaying. More on this soon...
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@jdbondy @Knocklouder Thank you for your interest and the nice comments. Also, thank you all for the likes. Attaching the Yards with Running Rigging: Foreyard - Vergue de misaine The final rigging of the model of La Créole began with the attachment of the fore yard and running rigging. The first step is to suspend the yard using the slings. These consisted of strong ropes with a diameter of 43 mm (0.90 mm in 1:48), fully served. While jeer blocks were probably a permanent part of the rigging in the past, towards the end of the 18th century the French began removing the jeer blocks after hoisting the lower yards, as they realized they were not absolutely necessary for holding the yards. Thus, the slings carry the weight of the yard. This was certainly a relief and an advantage when sailing sharply. For the model, I first provisionally positioned the foreyard using the lifts, so that I could then place the slings around the mast and connect them using seizing. The required seizing must be applied directly to the model. Getting this done cleanly and correctly will certainly not be easy. But more on that soon...
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