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hello Andy Thats what I'd think. In that time period a carpenter owned his own tools (T Jeffersons carpenter was a slave and didnt own himself but owned his tools), but the mutineers were stealing an HM ship and would not be able to just pull into any port and restock. and tools would be important for the future. Keith
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I couldnt figure out how to get a non-kindle version but found it here in text. Easy cut and paste to word so I could up the font for my blind eyes and I think I'll be researching it abit tonight, if it isnt too dry. 84 pages at 14 font isnt bad an effort to have some details. Like why he sailed past new Guinea to Timor. I saw the map of the route sailed on spiff's base stand in his build log (that was an intriguing idea) http://archive.org/stream/anarrativeofthem20337gut/pg20337.txt Thats mean tempting me with a camera like that. Wish our budget could afford this hobby the way I'd like. First the kits, then tools, then books, then cameras.... I'm beginning to wonder where it ends. I'm looking at buying a lumber yard ATM also . tmc
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Hello Sarah Ive been looking over the Bounty Jolly boat logs. I see you and Mario have added carpenters tool boxs. Is there a written account of the voyage. I find it unusual that they would steal a Ship but not keep tools. Not saying I'm right, just I'd want tools if I was running from Her Majestys Wrath. Seem i remember the Bounty was believed to be scuttled and tools would be handy to start a society. If you know of reading on this subject, I'm always interested in facts. maybe I'll intertnet search Nice build, enjoyed myself and envy that camera, although with my work it would show to many flaws. Shine On -/\= Keith
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Mario I just have to say, no one bashes a kit like Mario, That tool chest is magnificent by its self, but were they using that type of saw in that time or the springed bow saw? Also would they be allowed to take tools when dumped. The ships carpenter no doubt owned his own tools but they were stealing a HM Ship. See all the interesting things your work makes me think about. Outstanding work, your work makes me want to build a diorama. Your Dinghy is great also with the cooler and fishing gear. 2 Thumbs up. This kit is officially BASHED! Shine On -/\= Keith
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I like that Idea for the stand, interesting way to display and identify not just the boat but her actual historic navigation. Shine On -/\= Keith
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Hello Spiff Interesting experiment on second planking. I completely get what your going for with the grain/colour variation from the planks. I havent seen another planked like this and anxieous await seeing what she looks like after sanding. I've been amazed many time by logs of a ship that I think "that looks horrible" then the magic of sanding smooth made the caterpillar and butterfly. When I finished planking the peterboro canoe I was apalled at the clinkering I'd gotten while laying the planks, but after the final 1000 grit sanding she's like glass. Just don't hold her up to the light but you dont have that problem. Its good to be the guinea pig, most of the first ship builder were. Shine On -/\= Keith
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jarero said: (one of those long extended stares where you do nothing but ponder the next step) seems like I do that alot, glad to know it just isn't me ... by long your do mean hours? keith
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Hello Ron I've been a bit under the weather and so decided to spend some time looking at some build logs. Learning about building is an important step of the process. I've not been looking at logs out side of what I'm building too much since the crash as the pain of seeing so much gone is hard to take at times, even though I'm still really new to the hobby. MSW went down about 1 1/2 months after I discovered it. I know how it made me feel, and cant even image for the oldtimers, but I'm still daily amazed at how she bounced back. That being said, praise be to Ilhan Gockay for preserving it and you for getting it back up and online. I am absolutely astounded by so many things. First by just the beauty of your work, second by the simplicity of how you work with simple methods and tools, third by your daring to tear back into her to fix problems (such as the stem/bulwark refit). I just spent the last 8 to 10 hours reading and viewing your revived log and all I can say is WOW. Thanks you so much for sharing this again. You have taught me several things I've been wondering about, like stem/buwarks shaping and rudder hardware. I love your methods of showing the step by step with pictures which is so much a help no matter what ship one is building. As I said to start learning about building is as an important step of the process as any and your build log is/was a fabulous work of learning. Thank You and Thanks Ilhan. Shine On -/\= Keith
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Hello Greg Did this kit come with the supplies for 4 boats or did you scratch build. Either way I love the multiple boats and also All the detail you've put into this one. I agree with your meditation philosophy. Looking forward to seeing her rigged. Are you planning sails, She has a lot of rigging to show off, which sometimes are better for viewing without sails, but I also like the furled look with dropped yards. I think Sometimes furled sails look better then saggy sails. I love the sails on a tall ship but haven't come across and method for shaping them so they appear as they have wind pushing them. I'm sure someone has or had that info and since I'm new I'll never know all the information I missed, luckily I did get a month and 1/2 before MSW 1 was lost in a puff of electrons. Just wanted to say, hello and Very Nice build of a kit I like alot of a ship with a very interesting history. You've really shown what can be achieved. Shine On -/\= Keith
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Maybe you could take the pleasure barge colorado river rapids runnin' and catch some of those Rocky Mountain Lobster while riding the white water, while pulling 2 water skiers. I think the Phylly C's up to the challenge. Now what do Rocky Mountain Lobster traps look like? Keith
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YUP! I can remember castration day on the farm as a boy the vet always got the rock mountain oysters, or at least ours did. Then my 1st job in high school was in a packing house. I've never actually had them though. Keith
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Rocky Mountain Lobster? Hope that's not like the rocky mountain oysters. Great job, with the build and keeping it fun, Keith
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Oh BTW, the ones I was referring to on ebay were the old discontinued Morgan whaleboat (I like it better). I tracked one last week that stayed at $31 for days and in the last few minutes ran to $49.50. My limit on that ones $30 but I've spent my budget this month , I wish an old Double planked San Francisco I would show up. I will confirm that I have ships in the ship locker, but deny whether its enough yet.... tmc...
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Hey Buck The newer kit isn't the Morgan whaleboat, I think its called the New England Whale boat. They appear to be based on the same kit but the Morgans has a WAY cooler rudder. Plus I'm a wood guy, rather then paint, even if it isn't historic. It seems the longer I'm in this hobby the more my attention is drawn to the smaller boats and ships. As far as favorite PF album, its mood dependent (I honestly dont have a song they play that I dont like) but I'm definitely a pre-DSotM fan, the psychedelic stuff. I paid an insane amount to see Gilmour in chicago in 2006 from 2nd row. After I found out Echoes was in the lineup, I had to, he will never tour again, Tammy and I saw both nights. WYWH is such a great album. Did you know they started playing bits of WYWH and Animals in 1974 Live, but then they toured the DSotM the whole year of 72 before its release in 73. I have a 100 disc changer with all studio and at least 1 show per each tour, it plays a constant loop, PULSE just finished. My MS may be in chemistry, but my Ph.D is in Floydology. So do you build instruments professionally or a hobby. I've always found the building of string instruments fascinating. It is so amazing how every piece of wood has its own sound. Wish I could play, but my brain doesn't work that way. I play a mean stereo though, but nothing beats live music. Shine On -/\= Keith
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Hello Wayne Tell Almanza that the cannons fire torpedos, he sounds as bossy as Al. I cant even imagine working at this scale, The hobby's tough enough, where do you go from here, blindfolded ship builing, then blindfolded ship in a bottle? Amazing Work my friend. Its so easy to forget just how small the scale is on this kit (3/32" = 1' if I remember correctly, over a 1:100+) Keep on Riggin' Shine On -/\= Keith
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Yippe, my Smack and Dinghy arrived yesterday. Now I'll be watching even more intently to your and Dee Dee's builds/bashing. Also with Marios completed pic's I love the bashing details going on. Funny story. We went to the auction last night and some person bought this old wall clock. When everything was over it got dropped and the glass face plate broke, you could hear everyone sigh in sadness as the sound of glass breaking filled the room. Later while leaving I saw it sticking out of the trash. So... to my wifes dismay I pulled it out and it looks like its solid mahogany, so I snagged it to salvage wood. At least it won't become land fill. Keith
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Hell Buck Geez I love this kit. tI has a lot of character and personality with all the wood variations. I've been watching ebay and the last 3 that have sold on ebay have been around $50 or over, so it's definitely inflation proof. Love your wood substitutions, those type of details really make the model POP. Enjoying your build enough I had to quit lurking and say something. Keep up the beautiful work. Shine On -/\= Keith
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Jarero Just wanted to let you know, I approached the admiralty (Tam) and it was highly agreed upon that nailing WILL be done, "stow the grumbling about 20 hours of tedium cadet". I'll be borrowing her jewelery wire along with all the other tools I'm claiming in the name of the build. Sarah Nice pieces of jewlery, although hard to see, it does look quite wide and looks like a fairly tight weave, which means small links or tight multi-linking weave. Either way its lots of tedious work, I see now why your smoke stack turned out so well. That was a great idea for brides maid gifts, something personal. Tammy makes lots of jewelry and gives it all away. We've been out and someone will say "oh I love that bracelet" and she'll take it off and give it to them. The favorite piece she's mad was a byzantine weave with copper and brass, it was in really small rings. You can see why I've kept her around (more llike from running off, living with a chemist isn't easy) for 27 1/2 years now. We'd love to get setup to do silver casting. Ive recently been making rings from 1/2 dollars ( the 90% Ag, 1964 or older). snagged one at the auction tonight for $12, less then the silver value. The best deal was this clock someone brought and dropped, They smashed the glass and face (which I felt sorry for that) but as we left it was in the trash. It looks mahogany so I salvaged it for wood planking. SCORE! Keith
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Sarah definitely has the patience for chain maille if she building that 3/32" = 1' scale model ship. Steady hands also. Perhaps the chain maille was good practice for the small detail patience needed. Tammy's already agreed to help rig if I need assistance, my eyes aren't as good as they use to be and my arms seem to be getting shorter also (dang farsightedness). Tam works in the ER so she's use to detail work. She trained with a plastic surgeon as a surgical tech so she has great knot tying skills. Has sarah ever made one of the Maille balls. Not to clog up your log but I've attached a couple a pic's. The first is Ruebens collar and the maille ball, the second is our cheif galley officer Rueben (hound - and he loves his food rations) It's interesting how occupations and hobbies lend to ship building, ship building seems to be the perfect mix of everything, wood, metal and cloth working as well as engineering and math, plus that added touch of art.
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Sarah Your right about the penny giving prespective, Camera's are so good these days its easy to get a 1/50 scale mixed up with a 1/100+ scale. I was looking at logs back before the builds log apocalypse and didnt realize the scale until a reference was given, splinters look like baseball bats, then you see that the whole piece is smaller then a penny. Setting an #11 blade up close would really show the brick in the Wall (PF ref) your up against. I find your work amazing. and the scale doubly amazing, I dont think I could do the scale, even though my MS research used microscale seperation with a 50um capillary.What I loved was that way you created that used look. That smoke stack looked like a real stack if it were in a context where you couldnt judge scale you'd think it was real. You have a great eye for detail. ...and yes I'm a stalker, but know longer a lurker. Its such a relief to have a few Swift builders ahead of my build. I had a panic attack when the MSW 1 disappeared and all those logs disappeared. I'm so amazed at the dedication of the members to this hobby and how fast thing have rebounded. Picking each others brains also a fun part of the hobby. I love the willingness of experienced builders to take the time with Newbie such as myself. Shine On -/\= Keith, themadchemist
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Hello jarero Know wonder you said tedious so many times. Precutting and filling had to be maddening, and I would know since I am themadchemist. I understand the pinching effect well as my wife does chain maille and they must be cut with a saw or the edges wont butt together on the maille rings. For that reason she usually buys them premade. But I did recently buy a jewelers saw and wonder if cuting or filing many nails at once would work. Maille rings are usually made by wrapping a correct Inner diameter dowel, then sawing the length of the dowel across the maille rings. Wonder if cutting 20 of so nails and taping them or clamping them side by side in a vise then filing would speed up the manufacture process, just trying to think like henry ford and save individual processing. I knew there had to be a trick as personally filing them all down in my case would have destroyed the outer planking, either that or my sanity (oh wait I already lost that). I think one doesn't have to be crazy to build ships, But it helps. Thanks for the advice, much appreciated. Keith
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Hello Sarah Amazing work I can't even image working in the 3/32'' = 1' scale. Everthing you've made makes that penny look HUGE. Love the Smoke stack, great detailing, with nail polish and fake leading no less. looking forward to seeing more. Keith
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Nice work on the bulwarks. I'm dreading that part, but as I've just started planking I am still a bit away. Any tricks in getting the angle where the bulwarks meet at the stem? Love the way the crayola pencil work, It didnt seem to cover the wood graining the way I would have expected. The contrast really makes the detail POP. Looking forward to more pic's and tips. Shine On -/\= Keith
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Hey Jared I agree, Im building a Swift and appreciate the photos. I Love the brass nails, it WAS worth the 20 hours. Your pictures have convinced me to nail mine. Now the quetsions (or more questions), you said you filed the nails after cutting IIRC. Did you have problems getting into the wood doing this and does the wire sand evenly with the surrounding wood, As the nails appear flush I assumed you sanded after filing. Thanks also for reviving Dan's tape method for drilling, I would have tried freehanding it by eye, the symmetry of the nails make it POP, which make a huge difference. Keep those pictures coming, looking forward to seeing the rigging and deck fittings. Shine On -/\= Keith
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Hello philo426 Sorry no helpful ideas from me, as your way ahead of me. Plus I've been working on getting my log going and less time looking at other logs since the crash (I'm finally caught up though). She's looking good, from looking at a few Swift logs prior to the crash the bulwark where they meet at the stem seems to be a hard part to get sharp straight lines on. From the side view, it looks like you have it. Keep up the good work. I'm sure many are spending, lots of time getting build logs back up and not getting to spend so much time surfing other logs. I've been kinda flying by the seat of my pants also, as this is my first ship (I don't think my canoe qualifies as a ship) Looks like you have the older kit also, which gives only 4 1/2 pages of actual instructions (if its like mine). Kinda gives vague a whole new meaning. Oh and on the bulwarks molding, brilliant use of a skillet. you may be on to something for keeping bacon flat also, They do kinda look like that turkey bacon though. Oh BTW, I love that old Macanudo cigar box, and better what came in it. Come in here, dear boy, have a cigar. You're gonna go far, you're gonna fly high, You're never gonna die, you're gonna make it if you try;they're gonna love you. (couldn't resist the PF reference) Shine On -/\= Keith
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