Senior ole salt

Thanks folks. I had a feeling the anchor or fisherman's bend would do the job. The bend illustrated above probably has some advantages but it is easy to see that the end would have to be sized or else come loose. BTW I have always wondered why a fouled anchor is so popular as nautical emblem by knowing mariners. A disaster waiting to happen for any ship so fouled. S.O.S.

I'm working on my Providence model and would like to know. Thanks S.O.S

jbshan I'm well aware that engine controls didn't exist aboard 18th century ships. However aboard the reproduction of this vessel there were such a convenience. The plans I have were of the reproduction showing such controls . I intend that my model to be of the 18th century version ,John Paul Jones one of the Captains , that's why I posted that question. BTW Iron balls were placed on both sides of compasses to help in correction purposes. Thanks for the image you posted.. S.O.S

Thanks Mark but I'm thinking a" binnacle" with those ball shaped compensating iron spheres flanking a brass enclosed compass is not what that period had. I guess no one here viewing this thread knows. S.O.S.

Hello Blue nose . I recently posted almost the same question.on my "Providence" build . http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10774-sloop-providence-by-senior-ole-salt-148-scale-1776/ For now I'd like to know just what sort of binnacle was typical for a 18th century ship during the American revolution. The plans I have show a deck box and I assume engine controls probably a compass etc . Also where the ships bell might be. It appears no one on this forum knows. So I'm thinking something like what the Privateer " Rattlesnake "will do. SOS

]Lower deck guns rigged and run out .. ready for the first broad side... well ...almost. Got all of the poop deck to do as well as its fittings rails and swivel guns. etc. ( deck not glued down in the image") For now I'd like to know just what sort of binnacle was typical for a 18th century ship during the American revolution. The plans I have show a deck box and I assume engine controls probably a compass etc . Also where the ships bell might be. My big question is a rigging plan. My plans show only standing rigging and main peak & throat blocks halyards etc.with no clue as to just where they might go. So my question is any one here knowledgeable where all the running rigging should go and belay to? Thanks S.O..S

On Friday, December 22, 1775, the Continental Congress creates a Continental Navy, naming Esek Hopkins, Esq., as commander in chief of the fleet. Congress also named four captains to the new service: Dudley Saltonstall, Abraham Whipple, Nicholas Biddle and John Burrows Hopkins. Their respective vessels, the Alfred, Columbus, Andrew Doria and Cabot, became the first ships of the Navy’s fleet. Five first lieutenants, including future American hero John Paul Jones, five second lieutenants, and three third lieutenants also received their commissions. The new Admiral Hopkins, as he was dubbed by George Washington, was a Rhode Islander of some standing. His brother was Stephen Hopkins, the state’s governor. Esek Hopkins had married well and used his wife’s fortune to buy a ship. It proved a wise investment. He added to his wealth working as a privateer during the Seven Years’ War. In his new position, Congress promised to pay him 125 dollars per calendar month; they also informed that he could look forward to some share of the prizes allotted to the captors. Christopher Gadsden of South Carolina designed Hopkins’ personal standard, which flew from the first navy fleet. The yellow flag bore the image of a coiled snake and the Patriot motto, Don’t Tread on Me. Hopkins’ first assignment was to assess the feasibility of an attack on British naval forces in the Chesapeake Bay. After sailing south with his meager force of eight ships, Hopkins decided that victory in such an encounter was impossible. He sailed to the Bahamas instead, where he attacked the British port of Nassau, a decision for which he was relieved of his command upon returning to the continent.

Well the Providence is moving along. For me the rigging of the cannons was challenging but I had to install at least 4 of them before the poop deck work was to proceed as the beams and deck would make access to those 4 cannons difficult. ( for me at least) I first tried to rig up the tackles separately, attach them to the cannon and then move the cannon into place tackle and all. That didn't work.as there was a lot to manage all at the same time So I next stropped the block with becket & line to the bulkhead by drilling a small hole that matched the stropped block in the bulkhead and just glue in the block, strop and line. Same goes for the single block on the gun carriage Then I glued the gun carriage in place, let the glue dry. With tweezers, two needle threaders I rigged up the tackles as depicted in the photo. The coils are separate and all glued down. I still have to install the gun barrels and iron work to hold down the trunnions. The in place deck beams are not complete as there are two extensions P&S from the existing beams. All other deck work shown are removable for now to give more space for installing the other 6 cannons and tackles.. I gave up the idea of furnishing the main cabin as peering into it would be hopeless with the eventual poop deck, case would permit. I'll let the imagination of the viewer supply what John.Paul Jones and officers had for comfort. maybe even a wench or two. After all guys are guys. Thanks for viewing. S.O.S

An excellent build and maybe the fastest . I like the way you created,a nice back drop. It really makes the rigging stand out. SOS

Hi MehabaI, I'd like to hear more about the rig, like the sprit. It seems to be fixed. Once un brailed and the vangs eased,Is there enough slack in the lashings to permit the sprit and the sail to be eased out when sailing down wind ? Also can you tell me about the furled sails near the deck ? A curious sprit sail fan would like to know. Thanks SOS

Really nice work. One of the best here. I hope you add some crew in period dress and even a cat to keep the rats in check. SOS

http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/7-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-u-s-marine-corps. S.O.S

Just realized in the scratch build question is the wrong place. It belongs here. So here goes. 1.The plans for my Sloop Providence show a 14' boat on the main deck. I suppose the crew had to get ashore now and then. There is no detail on the style of planking the boat has, carvel or lapstrake. So what was common in1776 ? 2. How would the crew get such a deck stored boat over the side and afloat. Easy with two masts and yards , but with a single mast. I figure some combination of the one yard braced into position and maybe the gaff run up to a suitable height and with vangs to the end of the gaff to enable it to be swung out to the needed position over the side. Then lines from the shrouds on the opposite, control the swing outboard. I would appreciate any answers. Thanks S.O.S

Ahoy fellow modelers. Got two questions: 1.The plans for my Sloop Providence show a 14' boat on the main deck. I suppose the crew had to get ashore now and then. There is no detail on the style of planking the boat has, carvel or lapstrake. So what was common in1776 ? 2. How would the crew get such a deck stored boat over the side and afloat. Easy with two masts and yards , but with a single mast. I figure some combination of the one yard braced into position and maybe the gaff run up to a suitable height and with vangs to the end of the gaff to enable it to be swung out to the needed position over the side. Then lines from the shrouds on the opposite, control the swing outboard. I would appreciate any answers. Thanks S.O.S

Thanks David B. I plan to make some more crew but am still figuring out if from wood or clay and armature. SOS

Made a crew member who's ready to repel boarders. Also installed the bulkhead that supports the poop deck and the rail cap all around. Used ordinary cellophane to glaze the stern windows. It has just the right amount of wrinkle to look 1776 ish S.O.S.

Finely detailed work, keep going. SOS

Picked up an old plastic dental mirror . Ya know the thing ya gag on when the dental people poke in your mouth with. I find it great to look in on my model build areas where i can't get my eye to bend around. What you'rs ? S.O.S.

Still moving along with the model The scuppers P&S have been cut out and along with the gunports opening ,the whole structure seems strong for handling the hull. I decided a little paint was needed to cover mistakes ( I admit too so far.) I remove parts like the deck hatches bow sprit etc that are not glued down so they won't get in the way. I used rubber bands and scrap wood cut offs to glue and clamp down both rail caps on the poop deck. (one side at a time) This worked out fine but i can use the gun ports to do the same for the main deck rail cap. Yet to do is applying some sort of glass to the stern windows. Here's two views of the model so far. I use a lot of images on Providence's facebook blog to gain information concerning the boat that the washed out plans don't show.. https://www.facebook.com/Tall-Ship-Providence-118669581542537/timeline/ S.O.S.

Nice work. SOS

It's a shame no has done a model or kit of this boat. However I did a painting of her skirting S. Georgia island. The boat is on a back of a wave as they seek a possible landing place. SOS

Work on this historic vessel still progressing. I am having a little trouble hanging the rudder. It seems the opening in the hull has to be bigger in order to slide the rudder post past enough in order for the pintles to engage the gudgeons. S.O.S.

I poke into a number of logs here and am continually marveled by the workmanship seen here. It is an inspiration to do better but some time trying to achieve perfection can be a burden. So I try to do my best get on with the model and hope others don't notice my mistakes. or make allowances. SOS

These little windows were tedious for me. Each one is different and all five come out for trimming and painting. I'm thinking of applying the tallow paint to the bottom just one or two thin coats for now. The rudder needs pintles and gudgeons for the hull. I might try to fabricate them my self. The plan for the rudder is kind of washed out, so I'm not sure just how the top portion looks. The gratings at this scale will have to have 1/32" holes , that's achievable but will have to figure a way to make them. S.O.S

Got the wales on and did the deck beams. i also gave the hull a coat of sanding sealer "concocked" from thinned out Min wax polyurethane and West system 410 Microlight fairing filler. The last item was formulated for fairing stitch & glue boats. It seemed to work for models but needed a lot of stirring before applied to models. It was a guess & by god mix , much like Julia Child's recipes. Next will laying the main deck planking. S.O.S. PS,notice the foam holder I got from Micro mark. I still "fondle' the model though. All water craft must be "loved " even models!