Mtoriordan Posted April 4, 2015 Share #1 Posted April 4, 2015 Hello all, I have always been intrigued by wood model ships. During the past winter, I decided to attempt my first build and began doing some research as to what kit would be best for a novice builder....particularly one with zero knowledge, experience or skills. MSW has been an amazing resource and greatly contributed to pointing me in the direction of the Midwest apprentice line. Thank you! My first build was the Midwest skiff. The experience was so gratifying and I was overall very pleased with the completed project. This is quite an addictive hobby and I had to start another. Midwest, The Dinghy, arrived the other day and I decided to make the leap and post the build....so here goes. 400 grit sand and scribed plank lines to bottom plank. My first build was a slow one and I expect this one will be as well. Slow seems to be a pace that suits me. I will be tackling the frames next and will continue to post progress or any problems that arise. Any advice and/or comments are always welcomed. Cap'n Rat Fink, Canute, trippwj and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbelwood Posted April 4, 2015 Share #2 Posted April 4, 2015 MaryO, Will pull up a front row seat and follow along with your build. I have yet to build a Midwest kit and would like to start with one of their easier models. Plus, their prices are very reasonable. John Elwood crkaineg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q A's Revenge Posted April 4, 2015 Share #3 Posted April 4, 2015 Looking forward to seeing how you get on with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share #4 Posted April 4, 2015 Hi John, Happy to have you along for the ride! I have had a great experience so far with Midwest. The instructions have been quite detailed and easy for me to understand. I was also happy with the wood supplied, as well the supplied finishing details I.e. oarlocks. I also found the pricing very resonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share #5 Posted April 5, 2015 Removed the six frame pieces from the die-sheet and placed them on the plan. I spent quite a bit of time today cutting, sanding and placing the frames back onto the plan to check my progress. I was glad I had remembered numbering the frames from my skiff build, the dinghy instructions did not mention it. Came in quite handy when I had taken a break and a furry freeloader in my residence mistook the frames for a new cat toy. Believe I have gotten the frames as near to identical for each set and moved along to attach frame floors. Am using wood glue, so will place a little weight on the frame floors and put them aside until tomorrow. Scribed the frame and cleat lines onto the bottom plank and also marked locations for the knee and stem. Attached the three bottom cleats. Also will place a little weight on top and set aside until tomorrow. trippwj, mtaylor, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted April 5, 2015 Share #6 Posted April 5, 2015 You seem to be well on your way here. I also go very slow, and if that is what you enjoy and how you get the most enjoyment out of it, then that is what is best. Go slow. Have fun. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted April 5, 2015 QA and Russ, thank you for taking a look and I so appreciate the likes from others. Had a bit of quiet time this morning and sanded the frame floor flush with the frames. Next step is setting up the frames. Frame 1 and 3 require a slight angle, so when bottom plank is bent they become upright. I understand the concept, just very unsure how much of an angle is 'slight.' Canute, Cap'n Rat Fink, russ and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted April 5, 2015 Share #8 Posted April 5, 2015 WELCOME ABOARD, MaryO. Glad that you've decided to share your voyage with us. You've chosen a good subject to model at this point in your 'career'. I'll be looking forward to the lapstrake construction. By all means, take your time. Wooden shipbuilding is not a race. Work at your own pace ...... and ENJOY! Canute and Jack12477 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuntherMT Posted April 5, 2015 Share #9 Posted April 5, 2015 Hello MaryO, Actually bought this kit on sale a while back and have it on the shelf to do one of these days, so it's good to see one being built so I can follow along and see what is in store for me! Looks to be a nice little kit, and quite a bit different construction technique to anything I've done so far. Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted April 5, 2015 Share #10 Posted April 5, 2015 The angle in the frames is not much. Just enough to account for the fore and aft bend in the bottom. Looks good so far. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share #11 Posted April 6, 2015 I placed the bottom on the supplied blocks to put a bend in, just to get an idea of what angle frame 1 and 3 needed. The bevel was as described slight... Also placed the knee and transom. cog, russ, Jack12477 and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted April 6, 2015 Share #12 Posted April 6, 2015 That looks very good. Excellent work. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted April 6, 2015 Thank you Russ, was not quite 'getting it' until I saw it. Angie and Gunther, appreciate your taking a look. Am very much enjoying myself. This kit is definitely novice friendly and quite an education for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share #14 Posted April 6, 2015 Augie, so sorry, autocorrect changed your name on me. Do appreciate your checking in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted April 6, 2015 Share #15 Posted April 6, 2015 Don't fret..... I've been called worse. Nice neat work. cog 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted April 6, 2015 Share #16 Posted April 6, 2015 Very nice progress Maryo, I had a lot fun building mine. Mario Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sea Dog Posted April 7, 2015 Share #17 Posted April 7, 2015 Yo MaryO! You are coming up on a tricky bit where you glue the stem post on. There's not a real good way to clamp it while the glue dries. To keep it from leaning side to side, tilting forward or rotating off center while the glue sets, you will want to brace/squeeze it between two perpendicular items. You could make something out of Legos or even use two heavy but compact boxes like cake mix boxes and a piece of tape to keep it from tilting forward. Hope that helps! Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share #18 Posted April 7, 2015 Thank you Mario, am having a good time with it. Spent a good amount of time shaping the stem today and quite happy with the way it turned out. Won't have much time for a few days to make much more progress, unfortunately. Jack12477, Canute, GuntherMT and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted April 7, 2015 Share #19 Posted April 7, 2015 The stem looks good. You may find that you will have to make some adjustments when installing the side planks, but that is fairly normal. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share #20 Posted April 7, 2015 Hi Buck, Thank you! Do wish I had seen your post before I glued it on my own. Would have saved me a bit of time and a little frustration. Yes, did have it leaning side to side. Scrounged up a few small boxes and that set it up nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share #21 Posted April 7, 2015 Am very much looking forward to the planking, thanks for the heads up adjustments are normal. Will be hoping it will only be a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sea Dog Posted April 7, 2015 Share #22 Posted April 7, 2015 I started the dinghy as a side build a while back and took a few pics in case I ever decided to start a log. To get a really nice fit of the planks to the frames and the boat bottom, a flexed emory board works really well. It curves the same as the planks will. The board I used is two-sided and the fine grit side left nice surfaces. Sorry for the rotated pic- it must be an iPhone thing. Cap'n Rat Fink, mtaylor, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share #23 Posted April 8, 2015 Thank you Buck, will give it a try. Attached the strip on the transom, stern post I believe. I am trying to learn the appropriate terminology. The next steps have small blocks glued to a build board, the hull then pinned to blocks to create a slight curve. Looks like the planks are applied while still attached to build board. I really like to pick the model up and look at it from different angles while I fit various parts. I plan on spending a little time sorting out something else...probably attaching to a block of wood. Salty Sea Dog and Cap'n Rat Fink 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sea Dog Posted April 9, 2015 Share #24 Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) I wanted to be able to pick up the boat while working on it too! Also, I thought it was wrong to put holes in the bottom of the boat to pin it down. I mounted the spacer blocks to a small board and clamped the boat bottom to it to flex it. A scrap piece of wood protects the boat bottom from the clamp. The boat board was propped up on two short blocks to clear the clamp. After one plank was on a 2nd clamp was placed on the planked side and the 1st clamp was removed so that side could be PLANKED. Please let me know if I'm posting too much on your build - I don't want to be a hijacker! Edit to change "clamped" to "planked". Edited April 11, 2015 by Salty Sea Dog GuntherMT, Cap'n Rat Fink, CaptainSteve and 1 other 4 Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 10, 2015 Author Share #25 Posted April 10, 2015 Gluing supplied blocks onto strong back, no problem, everything lined up nicely. A clamp, sould have run out and purchased a proper clamp. I went with the pushpins as I had them on hand. The small block I pinned into split in half. Had another smal block of equal size, which also split. Finally got hull pinned to a block and did end up with one more pinhole than I wanted. I will be using a toothpick to plug those holes and they should fill in nicely. I then placed the gar board to check for fit. I had a LOT of sanding ahead of me. The transom hung over the bottom ny a hair, the first frame was short of the edge and frames 2 and 3 hung over. I took my time sanding, fitting, more sanding, fitting and glued the plank on. Another lesson learned, pre plan the clamping! Slowly but surely, progress continues. CaptainSteve, GuntherMT, augie and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted April 10, 2015 Share #26 Posted April 10, 2015 It is looking good. Everything looks like it is lined up well. Nice work. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 11, 2015 Author Share #27 Posted April 11, 2015 Thank you Russ and Buck, appreciate you guys keeping an eye on me. Also, thank you everyone for the likes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 12, 2015 Author Share #28 Posted April 12, 2015 Port garboard attached, after much fitting and sanding. The work has been paying off, both planks lined up nicely and the height also matches. Whew. Moving along to the second planks. GuntherMT, yvesvidal, augie and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted April 12, 2015 Share #29 Posted April 12, 2015 The fit looks good. The heights at both ends are a tad more important than elsewhere, but it is good that it all fits well. The great thing about wood is that you can trim, sand, and fit as needed. In fact, it is part of the process to be expected. Nice work. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtoriordan Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share #30 Posted April 13, 2015 Thank you Russ for the kind words and encouragement. Thankfully , wood is also very forgiving! I am very much enjoying the process. Salty Sea Dog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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