markjay Posted August 16, 2015 #1 Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) I'll be starting a log for this build. I'm finishing my current project but I've done a dry fit of center keel and bulkheads and this is as good a place ever to start. The kit is the newer version of the Cutty Sark and I have gone through the counting process. Some pieces and such were short on the count and Ages of Sail will be getting the materials to me (nice folks). I'm sure I'll be needing advice and guidence and any comments will be appreciated. For reference I will be using Longridge, Campbell and plans from the Maritime Museum. I intend to do some bashing but my goal is not to go overboard with details. Edited August 16, 2015 by markjay 3qq, avsjerome2003, thomaslambo and 5 others 8 Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
hof00 Posted August 17, 2015 #2 Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) Hi Mark, Brings back fond, (Or otherwise), memories. Things fit really well in this kit, yes? I am looking forward to your progress. BTW, I have an E-Mail address for a Chap at Mantua if you want the full PE Bulwarks, Etc. I think its probably still valid and I will send tomorrow if you wish. Did you get the Greenwich Society plans also? Cheers....HOF. Edited August 17, 2015 by hof00 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
markjay Posted August 17, 2015 Author #3 Posted August 17, 2015 Hope the memories are good ones... I'd appreciate the email contact please send it as a private email.ThanksMark Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
hof00 Posted August 17, 2015 #4 Posted August 17, 2015 Unsure if the memories are fantastic.... Good to see something started that was so close to me for so long. I'll get you that E-Mail address when I get in the office tomorrow. No Worries Sir!! Cheers....HOF. Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
NenadM Posted August 17, 2015 #5 Posted August 17, 2015 Warm welcome to the Cutty Sark fleet on MSW !!!! Good start !!! I join, and will follow with great interest I wish you a good luck with your build Nenad tasmanian 1 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic
thomaslambo Posted August 17, 2015 #6 Posted August 17, 2015 Hi Mark, Glad to see you started the build....I'll be following along with great interest tasmanian 1 Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48
markjay Posted August 17, 2015 Author #7 Posted August 17, 2015 Thanks for sitting in on the build...as I'm writing the temperature is 101degrees in my gararge (work area) and will be going up to 108 I'm told. Actually I do more reseach in the summer and build in the fall, winter, spring months so my log will be slow in coming. I will, as a next step, be adjusting the notches in the center keel for the masts to reflect their proper rake before I go to far with the hull structure. The rake is 86 degrees fore mast, 85 for the main and 84 for the mizzen. This should give the model a better line to my eye. Cjames and avsjerome2003 2 Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
markjay Posted August 17, 2015 Author #8 Posted August 17, 2015 Nenad, thanks for the input. Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
Mahuna Posted August 23, 2015 #9 Posted August 23, 2015 Hi Mark As a fellow Arizonan (Sun Lakes) I'll be watching your build. I'm fortunate that my shop has A/C, but I understand your heat issue. Quote Frank Completed: Skipjack Kathryn; Dunbrody Sectional Model; Paragon (modified Mayflower) Scratch Build; Planning a Sectional Model of Dunbrody NRG Member
HIPEXEC Posted August 23, 2015 #10 Posted August 23, 2015 Hi Mark. Welcome to our little club here in AZ. Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
markjay Posted August 23, 2015 Author #11 Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Decks are in...Planking main deck and bulwarks; Edited December 21, 2015 by markjay thomaslambo, Mirabell61, avsjerome2003 and 2 others 5 Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
markjay Posted December 27, 2015 Author #12 Posted December 27, 2015 First planking under way: tasmanian, Mahuna, Mirabell61 and 5 others 8 Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
hof00 Posted December 28, 2015 #13 Posted December 28, 2015 Hi Mark, Looking good!! Certainly brings back memories. I'll be following you build with interest if that's o.k. Cheers....HOF. Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
Mahuna Posted December 29, 2015 #14 Posted December 29, 2015 Hi Mark: Looks like you've made some good progress. Can you bring this model to our next meeting? Quote Frank Completed: Skipjack Kathryn; Dunbrody Sectional Model; Paragon (modified Mayflower) Scratch Build; Planning a Sectional Model of Dunbrody NRG Member
hof00 Posted December 29, 2015 #15 Posted December 29, 2015 Hi Chap, Really good progress thus far. How did you find the fit? Bulkheads, Etc Good? I really liked the first planking also, really easy to work with. (Hard Balsa perhaps?) Anyway, regarding the second planking, ensure that your Brass Bulwarks are fitted first as your second planking butts up nicely against this. (The Brass etchings also give a nice line/grounding for Rubbing Strakes.) I also ensured that all cut-outs were done prior to this, (As you probably are well aware), as once fitted, the Freeing Ports are a breeze to cut in you initial Bulwark planking. Regarding the second planking, I steamed this stuff on after applying a reasonable amount of Aliphatic Resin. Worked for me anyway. Also, watch out for the only error that I found out the Hard Way.... There is a Block seized to the Main Mast After most Shroud, just below the Gaff. Plans describe this as Single but it is most definitely Double!! (Used for Mizzen Braces.) (I am assuming that the "Campbell" plans you describe are the same as I procured from Greenwich, Cutty Sark Society.) I got mine enlarged as I sometimes feel like I'm an old Fella. Pin Rails/Channels: I filled all but the first five holes (Shroud Holes), as there are quite a few Backstays not catered for, I made a jig to drill for these extras. They are also "Inboard" and present an interesting challenge? Have fun and always pleased to offer advice if requested/required. Cheers....HOF. Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
S.Coleman Posted December 29, 2015 #16 Posted December 29, 2015 Off to a nice start. Good use of clamps. Is there any danger of the keel warping while in that vise? Quote Regards, Scott Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli Completed builds: 1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli - 1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli - 1:54 Adventure, Amati - 1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL 1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli - 1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel - 1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal Awaiting construction: 1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL - 1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard
markjay Posted December 29, 2015 Author #17 Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) Hello HOF and S. Coleman,Thanks for all the advice and the warning about that block. I'll mark it on the plans so not to forget. I have some small upgrades at hand for the CS, turned brass stanchions rather then the stamped brass ones supplied, etc. I'll be using the Campbell plans for reference as well as Longridge but aside from small upgrades I won't be bashing the kit any further. The fit of the bulkheads was pretty good some adjustment was needed but nothing out of the ordinary.About the vise, I have not seen any warping to date and don't expect to as I've used it on most of my builds without incident. I plank one strike at a time to each side and plank the deck. I do the deck planking sooner then the instruction say (after the second planking) to add strength to the kit overall. I will come back and finish the outer edges after the second planking which gives the bulwarks some added thickness and then remove the tops of the bulkheads. I will be removing the model from the vise to continue the planking. Thanks for sitting in and thanks for the good words.Mark Edited December 30, 2015 by markjay Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
hof00 Posted December 29, 2015 #18 Posted December 29, 2015 Hi Mark, I found that Billings do a good two hole stanchion. The "Flat" offerings that the kit provides are a waste of space. I also did not think that the Bulwark Stanchions were much chop either.... I replaced these with Brass Rod with a 2mm ring soldered on to each, don't recall how many, but a fair few were required. These also gave quite a bit of extra strength to the Channels. I also found that the all 3 Main Mast caps required modification, the plans indicate that these are tapered. If you refer to Longridge, they are not. I deferred to a friendly Manufacturing Jeweller to modify these and also to create some Spider Bands, not included in my kit. If you go down this road, the Main Tops will require a little modification also to accommodate the Main Mast diameter. Enjoy!! (I certainly did) Cheers....HOF. Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
markjay Posted December 30, 2015 Author #19 Posted December 30, 2015 HOF, can you post some images of your mast caps, etc. Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
NenadM Posted December 30, 2015 #20 Posted December 30, 2015 I hope this can help ? 3qq and avsjerome2003 2 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic
markjay Posted December 30, 2015 Author #21 Posted December 30, 2015 Perfect.Thanks Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
hof00 Posted December 30, 2015 #22 Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) Hi Mark, O.K. a few pictures, seems like a lifetime ago.... Photos are in no particular order, sorry. Included, Brass bulwarks, Spider Band, Stanchion detail, and I do not have any photos of the Mast Caps, before anmd after, only in place on the Fore, Main and Mizzen. The aft hole of these needs modification only, the Fore and Main Mast diameter is 10mm and the Mizzen is 8mm from memory. All the rest, Top Masts and Top Gallant are fine as these are tapered. Bowsprit/Jib Boom Cap is good to go also. The Deckhouses are only placed on in the early photos until all bulwark fittings were complete, otherwise I'd be painting myself into a corner, so to speak. Hope this helps. Cheers....HOF. Edited December 30, 2015 by hof00 GuntherMT, samson, omarcs and 6 others 9 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
markjay Posted December 31, 2015 Author #23 Posted December 31, 2015 Beautiful job. Did you make the brass bulwark or are they some kind of upgrade. Mark Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
hof00 Posted January 5, 2016 #24 Posted January 5, 2016 Hi Chap, How are you getting on? Your build is looking really good!! Cheers....HOF. Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson
NenadM Posted January 5, 2016 #25 Posted January 5, 2016 She looks very very very bice .... Oups ... Stupid phone ... nice I like it very much! Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic
samson Posted January 10, 2016 #26 Posted January 10, 2016 Hi Mark Just luking in to see wat you building and say halo. It always interesting to see a fello Cutty Sark build . And yours is great looking . Quote
markjay Posted January 19, 2016 Author #27 Posted January 19, 2016 Progress on first planking and transom; hof00, Mahuna, thomaslambo and 3 others 6 Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
markjay Posted January 27, 2016 Author #28 Posted January 27, 2016 Moving on; first planking done more or less, filling and shaping in progress. Altduck, thomaslambo, russ and 4 others 7 Quote Mark Phoenix, AZ Current builds; Previous builds, in rough order of execution; Shipjack, Peterbrough Canoe, Flying Fish, Half Moon, Britannia racing sloop, Whale boat, Bluenose, Picket boat, Viking longboat, Atlantic, Fair American, Mary Taylor, half hull Enterprise, Hacchoro, HMS Fly, Khufu Solar Boat. On the shelf; Royal Barge, Jefferson Davis.
NenadM Posted January 28, 2016 #29 Posted January 28, 2016 Proud beautifull lines appears !!! You can be satisfied Altduck 1 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic
Mahuna Posted January 28, 2016 #30 Posted January 28, 2016 Very nice Mark. I love the lines of the clippers. Altduck 1 Quote Frank Completed: Skipjack Kathryn; Dunbrody Sectional Model; Paragon (modified Mayflower) Scratch Build; Planning a Sectional Model of Dunbrody NRG Member
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