Charon Boatman of the River Styx by bensid54

[bensid54]

Checked out my camera equipment last night and the transmitter creates a fair bit of heat, so I'm going to my hobby shed to find a transmitter with half the mw and see if heat will be a problem with that one. If the other one is still too hot then I will have to come up with a means to cool it, heat exchanger or fan I'm not sure how I can do it. I'm not really fussy about using a fan for fear that it can cause his cape to flutter or be sucked against something when it should be hanging loose. Here is a picture of my Fat Shark camera gear without the goggles in the picture.

[bensid54]

I found my 250mw camera transmitter powered it up and let it sit in my shed for an hour to see how warm it would get. After an hour I checked the heat of both the camera and transmitter and found them warm but not too hot so I have my answer as far as needing cooling goes, the less I have to put under his cape the better!

[bensid54]

Patrick if you're still around I have a video on You Tube about the electronics of Charon could you download it for me please.

[bensid54]

OK because I can't download video on this website could someone get my video from You Tube type in "Willie watts Charon" and you should find it

[mtaylor]

No one can upload a video to MSW.  Can you copy the URL (the addy) and paste it into a post?   If you're using iE11, probably not.... 

 

Is this the one:  

[bensid54]

That's it Mark thank you! I have tried to copy and paste but for some reason this website won't let do that. 

[bensid54]

Work on his head, drilled eye holes, mounted the camera lower so the electronics for the eyes would fit. Mounted the camera  then filled in the gap above the camera with wood putty now I have to wait for the putty to set before I can make the workings for his neck which should be fun.

[mtaylor]

I'd suggest that you move this to the Scratch area.... you're a-building.    

[Roger Pellett]

If I were designing this boat for Charon, my design would feature rectangular mid ships section and full stern. In the movie clip, Charon stands up in the stern and propels the boat by poling. Even though he is a skeleton, displacement in the stern is necessary to support his weight. The creepy nature of the whole thing means that the boat moves very slowly so full hull lines do not effect resistance. Operating in protected waters he is unlikely to encounter heavy cross seas so range of stability is not much of a consideration. High initial stability is a desirable feature because he operates the boat standing up and passengers are always getting off and on, so a flat bottom design (rectangular mid ships section) is called for. Last but not least, the activities of the four horsemen of the Apocolypse- Disease, War, Famine, and Pestilance? Require the ability to carry large passenger loads- high cubic capacity.

 

The most rational design is therefore a rectangular barge with raking ends.

 

Roger Pellett

[bensid54]

Roger when I think of a barge I think of those that carry heavy equipment or concrete, what exactly did you have in mind?

I would move it to scratch build Mark but I have no idea how to do that.

[bensid54]

Progress on his head to date, I plan on covering his head and neck with a stretchy black cloth so it can hug the contours of his head and move when he tips or turns his head. Next will be the neck.

[Roger Pellett]

It would look like what your neighbors here to the south call a "Jon Boat" except that both the bow and stern would be curved up unlike the Jon boat where just the bow is curved. If you look up Jon boat on the web you'll find lots of examples. The top sides should flare outwards to gain buoyancy and stability when heavily loaded.

 

Roger

[Roger Pellett]

The boat that I am thinking about would also be called a "punt."

 

Roger

[bensid54]

Received the heavy duty servos today they have a torque of 15.5 kg per cm or if you prefer 30.45 lbs. per 1/4 inch approx. they are quite heavy so I think I will have to lean towards a broad beamed boat. I'll check out that Jon boat see if it will work for me.

Edited March 17, 2016 by bensid54

[Louie da fly]

Ben, if you want a stable, flat-bottomed ship that nonetheless resembles a Viking ship as you mentioned earlier, you might like to look at the rather graceful Mediterranean ship which sank about 1025 at serce limani off the coast of what is now Turkey - you can see a 3D image here and its lines here

[bensid54]

I was thinking a large skiff with a raised bow and stern that has a clinker built or Viking type hull. I checked those out Louie but I won't have anything with sails. I'll see if I can copy and paste the sort of boat I'm after. 

[bensid54]

This is along the lines of what I want his boat to look like, with some lanterns or lights at the Bow and stern. Maybe hang some horns on the bow.

[BANYAN]

Ben, have you checked the "Titan" movies, one of them, clash of the titans I think, incudes a scene of this crossing which may help with ideas.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[bensid54]

Thanks Pat I've seen that one, the Clash of the Titans movie from the 80s has one of the better Ferryman and boat I'm leaning towards that one. If I could find some plans or pictures of that Ferryman I would make it.

[bensid54]

Anyone know where I can buy a one foot tall plastic skeleton that has shipping to Canada? I've put out a tweet on the Warner Bros website asking anyone for info regarding the Ferryman of the 80s Clash of the Titans pictures etc. any info would be helpful. Right now I'm getting the program set up for his movements with AEW a member of another ship building website so hopefully will have some pictures or maybe even a video soon.

[RichardG]

You could check out this http://www.coomodel.com/info.asp?id=27. It's 1/6th scale, fully articulated. There seem to be quite a few on Ebay (search for coomodel bs003), 

 

Richard.

 

 

[bensid54]

Thanks Richard I checked that site out and that would be perfect now I have to see how to buy it.

[bensid54]

If someone could download my latest video on You Tube under "willie watts Charon" I would do it myself but this is the only website that will not let me copy and paste.

[bensid54]

I looked up skeletons etc. and I think based on what I'm trying to accomplish I don't like the head I made it looks too Mickey Mouse. So That being said I'm going to scrap it and start over. As I asked before can someone post my latest video of Charons head working it's under "willie watts Charon or bireme" you can find it there if not then I will only be able to post pictures, thanks in advance. 

[RichardG]

You can post links to the videos using the external link button 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLDJlm3Jkr8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgSZGMMu6gg

 

When I just paste the links, I do see the embedded videos (in Chrome anyway).

 

 

Richard.

 

p.s. those will be some scary eyes!

[mtaylor]

Man, we got to get you moved over to Chrome here on MSW.   Try what Richard suggested.

 

I had to move over to Chrome (or Firefox) as IE11 was giving me fits not just here but other places also.

[bensid54]

Thanks Guys trouble with changing things in your computer is it doesn't just change one thing, I will look into getting chrome.

[bensid54]

[mtaylor]

Cool.  Chrome is/was probably the easiest thing to install.   Looking good.

[bensid54]

Thanks Mark at least now I won't have to pester anyone to post my videos.