donrobinson Posted October 13, 2015 #31 Posted October 13, 2015 Michaels carries plywood as thin as 1/64" and Lee Valley tools has solid basswood as thin as 1/32", both are in Canada Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus
Ulises Victoria Posted October 13, 2015 #32 Posted October 13, 2015 Well... I stand corrected! Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Gentlegiant Posted October 19, 2015 Author #33 Posted October 19, 2015 I rebuilt my deck with plywood from Michaels . Watt is the best glue for planking the cabins wall and do you put some nails like the photos in manuel? Mike Dowling 1 Quote
Ulises Victoria Posted October 19, 2015 #34 Posted October 19, 2015 Hello GG. Looking good. For gluing bare wood to bare wood, nothing beats wood glue. Titebond, Elmer's and Gorilla have excellent wood glues. As for the nails, it is up to you. The easiest way in my opinion, to simulate nails, is just punch a tiny hole on the wood. When you sand using a very fine grade of sandpaper, the dust fills the holes, and when you apply the varnish, they usually come darker. Hope this helps. Mike Dowling 1 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
thomaslambo Posted October 19, 2015 #35 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) GG, As you continue on; be sure to check the alignment of anything (e.g. masts, bilge pipes, etc) that runs through the center of the ship from the main deck. Now that you're getting ready to install the middle deck cross beams. While you can easily access it, be sure to put notches for the bilge pipes in crossbeam 49 (frame 34). The notches will align with holes in the middle and main decks. I believe crossbeam 160 (main deck level) needs notches as well. FYI - I used the middle and main decks for testing alignment on a regular basis. You might want to consider building your middle decks sooner than later. One other heads up just in case you didn't notice, all but one of the main deck cross beams are precut with a curvature for water run off (unlike the lower level beams you must cut yourself). See the notches in cross beam 49 (I actually notched it before gluing it in) Edited October 19, 2015 by thomaslambo Mike Dowling 1 Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48
Gentlegiant Posted October 20, 2015 Author #36 Posted October 20, 2015 Thank You Boyd for the notches in beam 49 .I never see that in instruction. I thing this forum is a good help for me. Quote
Gentlegiant Posted October 25, 2015 Author #37 Posted October 25, 2015 I can install the second deck but i like the non in the kit cabins of Boyd??? Quote
Gentlegiant Posted October 25, 2015 Author #38 Posted October 25, 2015 I will install some steel rod 18 gauges at each beam ,i will make little drill hole and insert the rod with Glue. thomaslambo 1 Quote
Mirabell61 Posted October 28, 2015 #39 Posted October 28, 2015 I can install the second deck but i like the non in the kit cabins of Boyd??? Hi GG I held those fab cabin walls, your post in in Boyd`s log) for his own Bounty build, but in this case the credit goes with you....., great looking interior wood work Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
Gentlegiant Posted October 28, 2015 Author #40 Posted October 28, 2015 Thank You Nil and welcome on my log . Mirabell61 1 Quote
rcmdrvr Posted October 28, 2015 #41 Posted October 28, 2015 Very nice interior work. You have made a good start to the model. Quote Current Build: HMS Dreadnought - PLASTIC - Waterline Completed Builds: USS Cairo by BlueJacket; Nave Egizia by Amati; Harriet Lane by Model Shipways
Gentlegiant Posted October 28, 2015 Author #42 Posted October 28, 2015 Thanks Don for the compliment I follow your log and take some idea for build mine. Quote
Gentlegiant Posted November 4, 2015 Author #43 Posted November 4, 2015 I have a little problem the wall on the second deck are to high .This is not the wall the problem this is the deck that it missed in the kit (Post 15) The deck that i make by myself is a more thick than the original. Quote
Gentlegiant Posted November 4, 2015 Author #44 Posted November 4, 2015 I cut the wall. That's o.k. now. thomaslambo 1 Quote
lionfish Posted November 5, 2015 #45 Posted November 5, 2015 are your masts perpendicular to the water line or the deck? Quote
Gentlegiant Posted November 5, 2015 Author #46 Posted November 5, 2015 The masts and the ridge pipe are just there for a check they are not install Quote
Gentlegiant Posted November 6, 2015 Author #47 Posted November 6, 2015 The Captain will play piano:-) dgbot, Keith_W, thomaslambo and 2 others 5 Quote
Gentlegiant Posted November 6, 2015 Author #48 Posted November 6, 2015 I need to put some stain or paint ,but i don't know? Quote
Gentlegiant Posted November 9, 2015 Author #49 Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) The second deck with wall and without the greenhouse. Edited November 9, 2015 by Gentlegiant Mike Dowling, Keith_W, dgbot and 1 other 4 Quote
Gentlegiant Posted November 9, 2015 Author #50 Posted November 9, 2015 The greenhouse and second deck. AntonyUK and dgbot 2 Quote
Gentlegiant Posted November 10, 2015 Author #51 Posted November 10, 2015 The crossbeam 165 is 7mm to long ? is that normal? dgbot and cristikc 2 Quote
thomaslambo Posted November 10, 2015 #52 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) The crossbeam 165 is 7mm to long ? is that normal? No, I'm afraid that's not normal. My cross beam number 165 was a perfect fit (same as all the other laser cut beams). Are you sure you didn't mix up the beams (or possibly the frames)? Otherwise the frame may have warped...but 7mm is quite a bit of variance? By the way, I really like your creativity on the furniture Edited November 10, 2015 by thomaslambo Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48
Capt.Fisher Posted November 10, 2015 #53 Posted November 10, 2015 Hi guys, A very nice job Giant! Maybe you were a carpenter in your previous life. One thing that worries me, though.. You should well guess about what great amount of sanding is expecting you, after the planking is done. So, how do you expect to keep all that furniture in good shape and condition? What I know from my "sanding period" is that one - the whole ships body is being shaken, rotated, turned upside down, rocked, etc.etc, under the hard sand dusting. And two - dust comes EVERYWHERE! So I can imagine that those pieces of furniture, plus trees in the pots (the ones that will eventually not be shaken out of their places) will be stuffed with dust and very very very hard to be cleaned. Correct me if I am wrong, but I still have trouble with cleaning the inside of my hull, even with no single peace of equipment inside. Good luck GG, I'm watching with interest. Some day maybe even manage to catch up with you Quote ======== Current build - HMS Bounty - 1:48 - Artesania Latina Previous build Golden Star - 1:150 - Mantua (not finished)
Gentlegiant Posted November 10, 2015 Author #54 Posted November 10, 2015 Hi Captain and Boyd You are absolutely right. I do not have a magic solution . First I install all i can at the end. Second I fix all can i do . Third I use mat varnish spray after glue spray in the greenhouse. And i will use Parafilm M from Micro Mark http://www.micromark.com/parafilm-m,7551.html But you are right ,i really don't know the final result . Quote
thomaslambo Posted November 10, 2015 #55 Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) GG, Sounds like a plan. I see you have the "air duster" product, it works well for blowing sawdust away. I've used it many times...just be careful you don't give the plants frostbite This is what I use: http://www.amazon.com/Dust-Off-Compressed-Gas-Duster-Single/dp/B004E2RG34/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1447168385&sr=8-4&keywords=dust+off Edited November 11, 2015 by thomaslambo Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48
Gentlegiant Posted November 12, 2015 Author #56 Posted November 12, 2015 What is the difference betwen Balsa and Basswood ? Quote
thomaslambo Posted November 13, 2015 #57 Posted November 13, 2015 Basswood is harder than Balsa wood (Basswood is what AL provides for all our deck and bulkhead paneling/planking), but much softer then Boxwood or Pear (which IMO is a better choice of wood). I'm using Boxwood on my main deck and Swiss Pear for the hull planking (replacing the Basswood and Walnut)...just my personal preference Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48
Gentlegiant Posted November 13, 2015 Author #58 Posted November 13, 2015 Thank You Boyd for the information . thomaslambo 1 Quote
Gentlegiant Posted November 16, 2015 Author #59 Posted November 16, 2015 Wy nobody talk about somes nails with glue for fixing the main deck ? Quote
thomaslambo Posted November 16, 2015 #60 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) I didn't mention it in my build log, but the instructions do suggest using pins. Once I set the deck down with glue I used the smaller pins to hold it down (strengthen the structure). I drilled pilot holes (through the deck into the cross beams) and then dipped the pins in glue and pushed them in. About 6 pins for each cross beam. Later I filed all the pin heads flush with the deck before I started planking. Edited November 16, 2015 by thomaslambo Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48
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