DocBlake Posted November 5, 2015 #1 Posted November 5, 2015 I'm planning on adding gunpowder kegs to the magazine of my AVS. Were these kegs marked or painted in any particular way to make sure the illiterate crew didn't do anything foolish by mistake with the kegs? My AVS is circa 1768. mtaylor 1 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style.
Jim Lad Posted November 5, 2015 #2 Posted November 5, 2015 Dave, I don't think there would have ever been any risk of problems in the magazine. The magazine was always under armed guard and any movement of powder around the ship would have been strictly supervised by officers and/or senior petty officers. John mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote
BareHook Posted November 5, 2015 #3 Posted November 5, 2015 I believe the bands on the powder kegs were also made of copper instead of iron to prevent any risk of a spark mtaylor, shiloh and Canute 3 Quote Current Build: Authentic Hannah Kit Bash Pending Continuation: Sea of Galilee Boat Completed Build: MS AVS On Shelf: AL Independence, Blue Jacket Alfred
DocBlake Posted November 5, 2015 Author #4 Posted November 5, 2015 Very helpful, guys. I do think I remember reading about copper hoops on powder kegs at some point. It seems reasonable and I'll plan to paint the hoops copper on the powder kegs. Thanks! mtaylor, shiloh and Canute 3 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style.
druxey Posted November 6, 2015 #5 Posted November 6, 2015 Barehook is correct: the hoops were not of iron, but copper or of withy (wood). shiloh and Canute 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
jbshan Posted November 6, 2015 #6 Posted November 6, 2015 I'm not sure if your model is of the specific time frame, but the gunpowder was changed around this time, to a more potent concoction. The new powder was put into marked containers so they wouldn't blow up the guns using the same amount of the more powerful powder. How this was marked escapes my memory at the moment. Canute 1 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/
Tadeusz43 Posted November 6, 2015 #7 Posted November 6, 2015 Hi, Powder kegs in Victory powder room. Tadeusz Powder room was lit by lamps placed in an adjacent room through the special window Powder room was protected with copper sheet against rats which could drag on the powder around the ship. dgbot, Canute, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote
DocBlake Posted November 6, 2015 Author #8 Posted November 6, 2015 Thanks, all. I'll paint the hoops on the kegs copper colored. The model already has plans for a light room . Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style.
druxey Posted November 7, 2015 #9 Posted November 7, 2015 The last photo shows a withy-bound barrel (foreground). mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Modeler12 Posted November 7, 2015 #10 Posted November 7, 2015 Lunch, anyone? Have a blast!! Canute, mtaylor, avsjerome2003 and 2 others 5 Quote Jay Current build Cross Section USS Constitution http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10120-cross-section-forward-area-of-the-uss-constitution/ Finished USS Constitution: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/103-uss-constitution-by-modeler12/ 'A picture is worth a . . . . .' More is better . . . .
normanh Posted November 7, 2015 #11 Posted November 7, 2015 I believe hazel was used in the bands of the powder casks. Norman Canute, davyboy and mtaylor 3 Quote Norman Current build Trumpeter Arizona 1:200 with White Ensign PE and a Nautilus Wooden Deck. Built Caldercraft Convulsion, HM Brig Badger and HMS Snake. Awaiting - Zvelda HMS Dreadnought planning to get the Pontos Deck and PE Upgrades, Panart 1:23 Gun deck model and couple of the cannon kits Manatu - French siege mortar, and American coastal cannon.
allanyed Posted November 9, 2015 #12 Posted November 9, 2015 Did a few minutes looking up withy. All the definitions I found say withy was made of osier or other types of willow branches. Can't wait for the Jeopardy game show to have powder kegs as a category and a clue on withy. I am sure that will finally be one in which I can beat the admiral..... Allan Canute, mtaylor and druxey 3 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
sadoldgit Posted November 10, 2015 #13 Posted November 10, 2015 Hi Guys Just as aside ,Guy Fawkes was going to use 36 barrels of gun powder to blow up the house of parliament with the King, the Prince of Wales,most of the Lords, and members of parliament in there ! That would have been one big bang, and changed the history of the world ! Reg Canute 1 Quote
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