rwiederrich Posted March 12, 2020 Share #91 Posted March 12, 2020 I used a cake fondant roller to smooth and roll the leading edges to give them weight and a good billow. Paper is vary forgiving Rob thibaultron, Knocklouder and Landrotten Highlander 3 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted March 13, 2020 Share #92 Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) The jibs and stay sails work fine too. Rob Edited March 13, 2020 by rwiederrich JerryTodd, Landrotten Highlander, BenD and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SardonicMeow Posted March 14, 2020 Share #93 Posted March 14, 2020 19 hours ago, rwiederrich said: The jibs and stay sails work fine too. Rob, how did you keep the staysails suspended horizontally instead of drooping down from gravity? How does the sheet remain taut? Is there hidden wire in there somewhere? thibaultron 1 Quote Peter Completed build: Virginia 1819 from Artesania Latina In progress: Sultana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted March 14, 2020 Share #94 Posted March 14, 2020 3 hours ago, SardonicMeow said: Rob, how did you keep the staysails suspended horizontally instead of drooping down from gravity? How does the sheet remain taut? Is there hidden wire in there somewhere? The jibs and stay sails sheets are thin stainless wire painted to mimic rope Bob Cleek, thibaultron and Gabek 3 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabek Posted March 19, 2020 Share #95 Posted March 19, 2020 Excellent work, Rob! I can pretty much guarantee that I'll be copying your method! Clear skies, Gabe thibaultron and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds: Harvey, Baltimore Clipper - Artesania Latina HMS Triton Cross Section, 18th Century Frigate - online scratch build HMCS Agassiz, WW2 Flower-Class Corvette - HMV - card model Completed: Swift, Pilot Schooner - Artesania Latina --- Build log --- Gallery Skeeter, Ship-in-Bottle - Ships a Sailin' kit --- Build log Santa Maria, Caravel - Artesania Latina --- Build log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted March 19, 2020 Share #96 Posted March 19, 2020 11 hours ago, Gabek said: Excellent work, Rob! I can pretty much guarantee that I'll be copying your method! Clear skies, Gabe If you have any questions just ask Gabe........ Glad I could be help...and follow my build log of the Great Republic and you can see pics of the process....... Rob Gabek and thibaultron 2 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryTodd Posted December 26, 2022 Share #97 Posted December 26, 2022 The thing that ruins model sails for me is the insistence that seams be stitched, because at the usual model scales, the stitching amounts to being cable as big as a man's arm and just looks cartoonish. When you look at photos of sails, what you see and interpret as "seams" are shadows - not stitches. mtaylor, wefalck, ccoyle and 1 other 4 Quote Jerry Todd Click to go to that build log Constellation ~ RC sloop of war c.1856 in 1:36 scale Macedonian ~ RC British frigate c.1812 in 1:36 scale Pride of Baltimore ~ RC Baltimore Clipper c.1981 in 1:20 scale Gazela Primeiro ~ RC Barkentine c.1979 in 1:36 scale Naval Guns 1850s~1870s ~ 3D Modeling & Printing My Web Site My Thingiverse stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philski Posted January 10, 2023 Share #98 Posted January 10, 2023 Rob James does sails beautifully in my oinion. He's on Facebook at RJ Models and Ships I believe... James G, mtaylor, wefalck and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kenny Posted January 10, 2023 Share #99 Posted January 10, 2023 I am a fan of Tom Lauria MrPross, robert952, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyer Posted January 10, 2023 Share #100 Posted January 10, 2023 While I see many excellent examples of sails in this discussion I would suggest also to give some thoughts to how to set them: Perhaps I'm a bit fussy - especially for a landlubber - but after all that work we put into building a perfect model I find it a pity to see it set up in an altogether unrealistic stance. In my opinion it's best to imagine the model in a concrete situation to avoid an unrealistic setup: What amount of wind is there and from what direction does it blow? As the best point of sailing for most square riggers would be with a wind from an aft quarter you would see her most of the time sailing with braced yards and only a selected amount of sails set. A squarerigger with exactly squared yards and all sails set and filled with wind from dead astern therefore looks a bit unrealistic as the aft sails would partly or fully becalm those on the main and fore mast. Only mizzen sails and some on the mainmast would draw. Also filled square sails set on exactly squared yards plus equally filled fore and aft sails set along the centerline seem a contradiction. And with sails fully filled, the ship would hardly lay on an even keel. On the other hand if you think about some light winds you could set as many sails as you like. Just keep in mind that with fore and aft sails set the yards again most probably would be braced. All sails set and all yards braced square could only mean that you are taking advantage of the present calm to dry all your 'laundry'. Which then should hang limp. For my sails I prefer a very, very light cotton with penciled on cloth's seams and glued hems, reef bands and linings. The bolt rope is glued into the hem and - in my opinion - looks even better than one attached with almost unavoidable oversized stitching. I use a special textile glue. This method is the result of several articles found here on MSW. Some silkspan sails do look terrific (e.g. those B.E. made) but others still seem a bit papery and I guess handling of that stuff isn't as easy as handling some good old-fashioned cotton. But however the sails look like - I'm a great fan of any sails on a model ship. The simply perfect the picture. Cheers Peter GrandpaPhil, robert952, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote current build: The Naval Cutter Alert by flyer - Vanguard Models - scale 1:64 completed builds: HMS Bellerophon by flyer - Victory Models - scale 1:72 Yacht America by flyer - Mamoli - scale 1:66 - with some alterations Dolphyn Corel 1/50 Wasa Corel 1/75 La Gloire C.Mamoli 1/90 HM Bomb Vessel Granado JoTiKa HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 CC kit 1:64 Victory Models 1/64 HMS Pegasus by Flyer HMS Pickle, my interpretation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibozev Posted January 28, 2023 Share #101 Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) I am still building my first model OcCre's Polaris - 1:50, the sails are almost done and are ready to be installed. I've used a Pine and Walnut dye for weathering and diluted PVA to glue the boltrope, but still thinking about the shape. I've read this wonderful topic and learnt some really nice techniques for sails making, but still cannot decide: "To fill the sails with wind or not? If yes, what would be the best method to use?". The sails I'm using are the ones provided with the kit and are made from cloth (probably cotton). I've read somewhere that the potato starch and the diluted PVA are 2 possible solutions, but I'm not familiar how to use them properly for this purpose. Edited January 28, 2023 by ibozev mtaylor 1 Quote Regards, Ilia Finished build(s): Polaris - OcCre - 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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