Robin Lous Posted October 4, 2016 #91 Posted October 4, 2016 That's a lot of ship for just over 2 weeks 1/54...this will be BIG...nice! Robin Elijah, EJ_L and cobra1951 3 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cobra1951 Posted October 4, 2016 Author #92 Posted October 4, 2016 Nice planking Bob!coming along nicely. Thanks Zoltan zoly99sask and Elijah 2 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
cobra1951 Posted October 4, 2016 Author #93 Posted October 4, 2016 I too get the stray dog hairs on my work. Found one glued to a port lid the other night. Must have gotten right in there when I was installing and I overlooked it. I don't mind those as much as when I see one of mine and I start feeling feeling for that receding hairline that runs in my family. As too the hatch covers, I would think that they would be rather heavy duty in order to both stay as water tight as possible and not to easily come unseated in rough seas. I could easily see two people having to lift them up and out of the way. Large rings would be a benefit here so that a sailor could get both hands into the ring to lift it. Either way, hatch looks great! Thanks EJ Too big, or not i'm happy with them :) EJ_L, Elijah, foxy and 1 other 4 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
cobra1951 Posted October 4, 2016 Author #94 Posted October 4, 2016 That's a lot of ship for just over 2 weeks 1/54...this will be BIG...nice! Robin Thanks Robin Not too big 815mm long, nowhere near as big as the Caldercraft Victory EJ_L, Elijah and Robin Lous 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
mikiek Posted October 5, 2016 #95 Posted October 5, 2016 Can't believe the progress you have made Bob. Someday I will have that kind of time. cobra1951, EJ_L, Elijah and 1 other 4 Quote Sail on...... Mike "Dropped a part? Your shoe will always find it before your eyes do" Current Builds: Completed Builds: Lancia Armata 1803 - Panart US Brig Niagara - Model Shipways ; Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart ; Arrow American Gunboat - Amati Riva Aquarama - Amati T24 RC Tugboat ; Hispaniola - Megow - Restoration ; Trajta - by Mikiek - Marisstella ; Enterprise 1799 - Constructo
cobra1951 Posted October 5, 2016 Author #96 Posted October 5, 2016 Thanks Mike Elijah, EJ_L and zoly99sask 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
cobra1951 Posted October 6, 2016 Author #97 Posted October 6, 2016 Yes Jax is good but not as easy for me to get hold of here. zoly99sask, EJ_L and Elijah 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
riverboat Posted October 7, 2016 #98 Posted October 7, 2016 Hi Bob.... just went thru your build.... you are doing some very nice work... liked the way your decking came out and the color .. I myself really like working with lime it stains well and paints well too. Blacken er's are a bear to work with too.... I've been using a blacken er from A-West products and have had real good results, I'm getting pretty low, so I bought some blacken er from Blue Jacket and I was very disappointed.I don't think A-West is still in business.... any way your build is looking really good ... I'll be stopping by now and then. Frank EJ_L, popeye the sailor, foxy and 1 other 4 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
cobra1951 Posted October 7, 2016 Author #99 Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) Hi Frank thanks The stain on the decking is light oak. There is a blackener on your side of the pond made by Jax it's available on eBay. Not tried it myself but Zoltan reckons it's ok Edited October 7, 2016 by Cobr@ EJ_L, Elijah, foxy and 2 others 5 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
popeye the sailor Posted October 7, 2016 #100 Posted October 7, 2016 very nice build so far Bob EJ_L, Elijah and cobra1951 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
cobra1951 Posted October 7, 2016 Author #101 Posted October 7, 2016 Thanks Popeye Elijah and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
mikiek Posted October 12, 2016 #102 Posted October 12, 2016 Funny how we all have different experiences with products. I have used the Blue Jacket product with very good results. cobra1951, Elijah and EJ_L 3 Quote Sail on...... Mike "Dropped a part? Your shoe will always find it before your eyes do" Current Builds: Completed Builds: Lancia Armata 1803 - Panart US Brig Niagara - Model Shipways ; Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart ; Arrow American Gunboat - Amati Riva Aquarama - Amati T24 RC Tugboat ; Hispaniola - Megow - Restoration ; Trajta - by Mikiek - Marisstella ; Enterprise 1799 - Constructo
cobra1951 Posted October 12, 2016 Author #103 Posted October 12, 2016 I agree with you Mike . I think it also depends on the quality of the metal you are working wirh. When I did the two section decks all the brass in the first one blackened great, the second lot went all crusty and pitted. Took me a few days to get it correct. mikiek, popeye the sailor, EJ_L and 1 other 4 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
mikiek Posted October 13, 2016 #104 Posted October 13, 2016 That and of course how clean all the parts are. Including the container used to soak them. I've always gone with glass jars for that. They don't absorb much. cobra1951, Elijah, EJ_L and 1 other 4 Quote Sail on...... Mike "Dropped a part? Your shoe will always find it before your eyes do" Current Builds: Completed Builds: Lancia Armata 1803 - Panart US Brig Niagara - Model Shipways ; Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart ; Arrow American Gunboat - Amati Riva Aquarama - Amati T24 RC Tugboat ; Hispaniola - Megow - Restoration ; Trajta - by Mikiek - Marisstella ; Enterprise 1799 - Constructo
foxy Posted October 13, 2016 #105 Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) I use a baking tin for my blacking. But Glass sounds good. I have yet to find a good brass chain blackner. Tried the German one, begins with a Z I think, It say;s water down first but found strait from the bottle is best,'well sometimes'. Frank. Edited October 13, 2016 by foxy cobra1951, EJ_L and Elijah 3 Quote
cobra1951 Posted October 13, 2016 Author #106 Posted October 13, 2016 I use little glass ramekins for smaller parts and a glass bowl for larger ones. I find if you use a certain kind of plastic it taints the process but you don't find out it was the wrong kind until it's too late Glass is best EJ_L and Elijah 2 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
cobra1951 Posted October 13, 2016 Author #107 Posted October 13, 2016 I use a baking tin for my blacking. But Glass sounds good. I have yet to find a good brass chain blackner. Tried the German one, begins with a Z I think, It say;s water down first but found strait from the bottle is best,'well sometimes'. Frank. Hi Frank Do you mean Krick the one that CMB and Jotika sell. If you do it works fine diluted as long as you keep it warm, otherwise it takes ages to work I put my stuff in a glass container then place that in another container containing boiling water and keep it hot, the process is really speeded up then cog, EJ_L and Elijah 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
cobra1951 Posted October 14, 2016 Author #108 Posted October 14, 2016 Hi My two cents worth. Pre soak the parts in white vinegar first for 10 min to make sure cleaned of ectching process gunk. Then into blackner. The pitting is caused by the blackner being to strong and acting to fast due to the heat and eating into the brass rather than oxidizing it. Use diluted and wait a bit longer. It will never be perfectly black. The only was for that is to paint it. Using it to strong can cause the parts to become brittle. My brass is thoroughly cleaned first with hot soapy water then rinsed then dried. It is then cleaned again in Actone then rinsed again a few time them it is left to dry. My pitting occured using the Birchwood Casey diluted to 50/50 and it was used cold and the blackening never worked just some crusty black bits which fell off. But to give the Birchwood Casey the benefit of the doubt the second lot of brass on my Gun section was not very good as i could see it looked like it was left lying around somewhere damp for years. The reason i use the Krick warmed is because it says so on the instructions and it always works for me EJ_L, cog, canoe21 and 2 others 5 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
cobra1951 Posted October 14, 2016 Author #109 Posted October 14, 2016 Finally finished the first planking marktiedens, zoly99sask, shipcarpenter and 7 others 10 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
Robin Lous Posted October 14, 2016 #110 Posted October 14, 2016 Looks smooth! Robin cobra1951, EJ_L and Elijah 3 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
EJ_L Posted October 14, 2016 #111 Posted October 14, 2016 Excellent job on that first planking. Shouldn't take much to get her ready for the second. Elijah and cobra1951 2 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild
donrobinson Posted October 14, 2016 #112 Posted October 14, 2016 Looks real good Bob, will make for a great base for next layer. Looks like there is a piece of planking missing at the stern, is that left open for a reason? Elijah, cobra1951 and EJ_L 3 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus
cobra1951 Posted October 14, 2016 Author #113 Posted October 14, 2016 Looks smooth! Robin Thanks Robin Still needs a lot of sanding yuk Elijah, EJ_L and Robin Lous 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
cobra1951 Posted October 14, 2016 Author #114 Posted October 14, 2016 Excellent job on that first planking. Shouldn't take much to get her ready for the second. Thanks EJ Hopefully not as i hate sanding Elijah and EJ_L 2 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
cobra1951 Posted October 14, 2016 Author #115 Posted October 14, 2016 Looks real good Bob, will make for a great base for next layer. Looks like there is a piece of planking missing at the stern, is that left open for a reason? Thanks Don I only left it open because i was checking out a few builds of this kit and one showed it like that in his pictures so i did the same just in case there was a reason for it. Turns out there was no reason so i will patch in a little piece before i go any further. popeye the sailor, EJ_L and Elijah 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
Elijah Posted October 14, 2016 #116 Posted October 14, 2016 Good job! Now do the second planking ! EJ_L and cobra1951 2 Quote -Elijah Current build(s): Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/ Completed build(s): Model Shipways Phantom http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376 Member of: The Nautical Research Guild N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society)
cobra1951 Posted October 14, 2016 Author #117 Posted October 14, 2016 Good job! Now do the second planking ! Yes Boss Thanks Elijah EJ_L and Elijah 2 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
cobra1951 Posted October 14, 2016 Author #118 Posted October 14, 2016 Nice Job I like the way occre provide the bluff hull instead of having you first plank it , makes the first planking less tedious. The bends on the Caldercraft were interesting to say the least. Bluff kits are "Character builders "if nothing else. Good luck on the second Layer. if the Occre 2nd layer wood i have used in the past is any indication , it should come up a treat when sealed and it bends nicely. Thanks Paul The bluff hull makes it a lot easier to do the first planking as you can just lay the planks in straight lines rather than follow any curves on the hull. The second planking will be a bit more traditional but i suspect easier than the normal shaped hulls Second planking strakes consists of 0.5 mm x 5mm limewood (same as the decking) for the upper hull and 0.5mm x 5mm Sapelli for the lower hull. As you say very easy to bend but a lot less room for errors as there's not a lot of thickness to sand down Elijah, Robin Lous and EJ_L 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
Robin Lous Posted October 14, 2016 #119 Posted October 14, 2016 0,5 mm...that's indeed very thin Robin EJ_L, cobra1951 and Elijah 3 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cobra1951 Posted October 14, 2016 Author #120 Posted October 14, 2016 0,5 mm...that's indeed very thin Robin Sure is so i better get it right first time :huh: EJ_L, Robin Lous and Elijah 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
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