Sirius Posted October 14, 2016 Share #121 Posted October 14, 2016 Looking great, Bob. Elijah, cobra1951 and EJ_L 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share #122 Posted October 14, 2016 Thanks Sirius EJ_L and Elijah 2 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share #123 Posted October 15, 2016 First thank you for all the like and remarks and input, much appreciated :) I was waiting for the first problem to pop up and here it is. 4 blocks of Balsa to make the shape of the bluff bow 2 blocks to be fitted each side into the space at the bow The problem is Occre have supplied blocks meant for a smaller kit They measure 15mm x 80mm x 100mm But they should be 23mm x 80mm x 115mm So no chance of filling the spaces at the bow. I will contact my supplier on Monday to get replacements, So there will be a delay in the build until they arrive popeye the sailor, zoly99sask, marktiedens and 3 others 6 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 15, 2016 Share #124 Posted October 15, 2016 There must be a model shop in Liverpool. Elijah and cobra1951 2 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share #125 Posted October 15, 2016 Hi Robin There is no model shop in Liverpool anymore, the one that used to be did not stock wood etc only plastic kits and train sets. Also my supplier has no stock of the required size according to their website So i will have to wait anyway EJ_L, Robin Lous and Elijah 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 15, 2016 Share #126 Posted October 15, 2016 Liverpool...once the centre of the shipping universe...and no decent model shop. What has become of this world Elijah, cog, cobra1951 and 1 other 4 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share #127 Posted October 15, 2016 Liverpool...once the centre of the shipping universe...and no decent model shop. What has become of this world You got that right :huh: Robin Lous, EJ_L and Elijah 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 15, 2016 Share #128 Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) Ever been looking for model wood in Rotterdam ... it's not as easy as it used to be ... quite a few modelshops are gone ... long live the shop killer ... internet ... but it has it's own advantages ... you can enjoy your build much longer Bob Couldn't you start with what you've got on one side ... at least you will have something to do whilst you wait for the missing pieces Wouldn't want you to go cold turkey Edited October 15, 2016 by cog Elijah, EJ_L and cobra1951 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share #129 Posted October 15, 2016 Nice planking!!do you need some wood filler job? Or straight to sanding?? Thanks Zoltan Just a little bit of filling needed to be applied Elijah, EJ_L and zoly99sask 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share #130 Posted October 15, 2016 Ever been looking for model wood in Rotterdam ... it's not as easy as it used to be ... quite a few modelshops are gone ... long live the shop killer ... internet ... but it has it's own advantages ... you can enjoy your build much longer Bob Couldn't you start with what you've got on one side ... at least you will have something to do whilst you wait for the missing pieces Wouldn't want you to go cold turkey Yes the internet has killed off a lot of businesses. It would be nice to be able to go and choose your own woods without having to put up with what your given I could do one side out of the 4 pieces but i don't fancy patch working them plus i would have to wait until i did the other side to do the final sanding anyway. The more i can delay the sanding process the happier i am :D so i will wait zoly99sask, EJ_L, cog and 2 others 5 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted October 15, 2016 Share #131 Posted October 15, 2016 That's ok Bob, it's the weekend relax, sit back and have a couple of refreshments Elijah, Robin Lous, cobra1951 and 2 others 5 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share #132 Posted October 15, 2016 That's ok Bob, it's the weekend relax, sit back and have a couple of refreshments 6 tubes of pringles should sort it :D zoly99sask, Robin Lous, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share #133 Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) Hi Paul There probably is but as i do not mind waiting to be supplied with what i have already paid for and i am in no rush to finish it (in fact i'm happy for the delay as it stretches out the sanding job lol) i'm not going to bother looking :) I could get on with other jobs on the build but i want to build it in the manual order (unless as sometimes happens the manual is being silly) because in the past i have ended up forgetting to do stuff and then having to go back later and do it Edited October 16, 2016 by Cobr@ Seventynet, EJ_L, zoly99sask and 2 others 5 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted October 16, 2016 Share #134 Posted October 16, 2016 Finally finished the first planking 40.JPG 41.JPG Hi Bob, Have you left room for the rudder stock to pass up to the deck ? and room for the rudder to pivot. I added extra supports either side, for the planks to glue to and the hatch between. Dave R EJ_L, Elijah, cobra1951 and 2 others 5 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share #135 Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Hi Dave Yes I there is room for the rudder etc. I think the construction of yours and mine will be different as they are from different manufacturers. Mine called for two strengthening pieces to be fitted either side of the keel at the stern end. Then they tell you to file out the space in between the strengtheners. I did it differently be cutting the piece out of the keel then fitting the strengtheners with the appropriate gap in between them. Awkward as most of the stern is built before it's mentioned. You can just see the slot in between the two center strengthening pieces in the center of where the transom will be Edited October 17, 2016 by Cobr@ Elijah, canoe21, foxy and 7 others 10 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted October 18, 2016 Share #136 Posted October 18, 2016 nice planking job Bob cobra1951 and Elijah 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share #137 Posted October 18, 2016 Thanks Popeye Elijah 1 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiek Posted October 18, 2016 Share #138 Posted October 18, 2016 Just curious Bob - do the nails stay in or are they just for holding in place? cobra1951 and Elijah 2 Quote Sail on...... Mike "Dropped a part? Your shoe will always find it before your eyes do" Current Builds: Completed Builds: Lancia Armata 1803 - Panart US Brig Niagara - Model Shipways ; Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart ; Arrow American Gunboat - Amati Riva Aquarama - Amati T24 RC Tugboat ; Hispaniola - Megow - Restoration ; Trajta - by Mikiek - Marisstella ; Enterprise 1799 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share #139 Posted October 19, 2016 Hi Mike The nails have been removed what you see in the planking are the holes left after removal EJ_L and Elijah 2 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share #140 Posted October 19, 2016 Thanks Zoltan zoly99sask, EJ_L and Elijah 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share #141 Posted October 19, 2016 Thanks John Scouse mmm now that gives me an idea EJ_L and Elijah 2 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted October 20, 2016 Share #142 Posted October 20, 2016 I remove the nails as well.........they are merely to hold the planks in place til they dry they live to plank another day. cobra1951, canoe21, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted October 20, 2016 Share #143 Posted October 20, 2016 I do the same. I've been using a lot of the same nails for years though a lot of them got turned into hinge pins on my current build. cobra1951, Elijah and popeye the sailor 3 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted October 20, 2016 Share #144 Posted October 20, 2016 I have the pin pusher for the 7 mm brads. I have the 10 mm brads as well......but so far, I've used them for levers and dash buttons, since they have a visible head on them. the 7 mm do well for small bolts and rivets on particular pieces of deck furniture. foxy, canoe21, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted October 21, 2016 Share #145 Posted October 21, 2016 ok, I agree about the nails............but what the heck is Scouse? EJ_L, Elijah and canoe21 3 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share #146 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) It's a very thick stew First made as it was a cheap way of feeding a family as most stews are. If it's made with no meat and just vegetables it's called blind scouse Edited October 21, 2016 by Cobr@ canoe21, EJ_L, cog and 2 others 5 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxy Posted October 21, 2016 Share #147 Posted October 21, 2016 I to have learnt that its better to remove nails, but will leave some in. Went through 200 on my last wood build,' so won't make that mistake again',(he say's). Nice going Bob matey. Frank canoe21, Elijah and EJ_L 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share #148 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Thanks Frank A lot of the time I use push pins on the first planking instead of nails. It stops the planks riding up like they sometimes do on nails Edited October 21, 2016 by Cobr@ Elijah, Sirius, cog and 1 other 4 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiek Posted October 21, 2016 Share #149 Posted October 21, 2016 OK - I get the nails for holding planks. But if you take them out what do you do with the holes? So far I haven't used nails for planking. CA is my 'nail' at the frame and I use PVA down the long edge. cobra1951, Elijah and EJ_L 3 Quote Sail on...... Mike "Dropped a part? Your shoe will always find it before your eyes do" Current Builds: Completed Builds: Lancia Armata 1803 - Panart US Brig Niagara - Model Shipways ; Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart ; Arrow American Gunboat - Amati Riva Aquarama - Amati T24 RC Tugboat ; Hispaniola - Megow - Restoration ; Trajta - by Mikiek - Marisstella ; Enterprise 1799 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share #150 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) On the first layer of planks i do nothing with the holes as they will be covered by the second layer. For the second layer i don't use nails, like you i use CA along the full length of the bottom, but not along the edges so it doesn't squeeze out between the planks Edited October 21, 2016 by Cobr@ cog, foxy, EJ_L and 1 other 4 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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