rdsaplala Posted February 5, 2018 Share #331 Posted February 5, 2018 Hi Russ, Just caught up with your latest build, beautiful and clean work as always. Your deck planking looks perfect mtaylor, popeye the sailor, cog and 1 other 4 Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share #332 Posted February 5, 2018 Aldo: Glad to hear from you. Thanks for the kind words. I will have the deck finished in the next few days I think. So far so good. Russ rdsaplala, popeye the sailor and mtaylor 3 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share #333 Posted February 10, 2018 Deck planking is complete and the deck has been scraped fairly well. I will, look again over the weekend to see if it needs any more scraping. The last deck plank, outboard and aft on the starboard side, has no glue on it. It went in nicely on the last fitting and I could not raise it again to apply glue to the bottom. Oh well, it is in there to stay regardless. Russ BANYAN, coxswain, John Allen and 12 others 15 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted February 10, 2018 Share #334 Posted February 10, 2018 Beautiful work on the deck, Russ! John russ, popeye the sailor and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share #335 Posted February 10, 2018 John: Thanks. I am tolerably pleased with the result. Russ mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted February 11, 2018 Share #336 Posted February 11, 2018 Very nice deck planking Russ. cheers Pat mtaylor, John Allen, russ and 1 other 4 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share #337 Posted February 11, 2018 Pat: Thanks. Russ popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share #338 Posted February 11, 2018 Here is the main hatch coaming. My Model Machines 4 inch table saw was handy in making the half lapped joints at the corners. The coaming sits down into the deck planking so the fit will work out well. This is much better than sitting it on top of the planking. Russ rafine, cog, hexnut and 11 others 14 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 11, 2018 Share #339 Posted February 11, 2018 "The coaming sits down into the deck planking so the fit will work out well." Isn't that harder to accomplish, I would think so, although, I know I shouldn't think. Nicely planked, and the next steps start promising! russ and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share #340 Posted February 11, 2018 Carl: Thanks. There is work either way. Either you will have to carefully sand the entire underside of the coaming to fit onto the planking, fitting to both the sheer and the camber of the deck, or carefully fit the planking to allow the coaming to sit into the recess. I have tried it both ways, and fitting the planking is easier, especially if you take some time to make carefully cut jigs to layout where the planking ends. It is really just a matter of which option you prefer. Russ popeye the sailor, Jack12477, KenW and 2 others 5 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted February 11, 2018 Share #341 Posted February 11, 2018 Making a lot of good progress lately Russ; some free time? cheers Pat russ, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share #342 Posted February 11, 2018 Pat: Thanks. It has either been very cold or rainy just about every day lately, so that leaves me with some free time. It looks like there will be some much needed yard work later this week though. Russ mtaylor, cog and popeye the sailor 3 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share #343 Posted February 15, 2018 I hope this will be of use to someone. Here is a little jig to help locate support cleats on the inside of the hatchway so that you will know that your hatch covers will sit level with the top of the hatch coaming. The jig is made of two strips of wood, one of which is the thickness of the hatch covers. Glue that strip to the edge of another wider strip and then sit that wider strip on top of the hatch coaming so that the first strip lips over the edge of the coaming. You can strike a pencil line along the bottom edge of the strip to mark the top edge of the cleat on the inside faces of the hatch coaming. Glue the support cleat right on that pencil line and your hatch covers will sit level and flush with the top edge of the coaming. In the photos you can see the jigs and one of the cleats on the side already installed and then the jigs in use. I made one for the side of the hatch coaming and one for the end of the coaming. These are easy to make from scrap material and yield good results. Russ popeye the sailor, KenW, src and 6 others 9 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 15, 2018 Share #344 Posted February 15, 2018 Must be my poor grasp of the Us English, but I don't get your drift, Russ ... P.s. my UK English is just as bad popeye the sailor 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share #345 Posted February 15, 2018 Carl: In the first photograph, look at the inside edge of the hatch coaming and you will see one of the support cleats already installed. On that support cleat will sit the end of the hatch covers. There will be identical support cleats along the entire inside face of the coaming. In the next two photographs, you can see how that jig sits on top of the hatch coaming and establishes the upper edge of that support cleat. Russ popeye the sailor 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 15, 2018 Share #346 Posted February 15, 2018 I don't see a "cleat" let alone "cleats". According to my limited knowledge a cleat is a wooden or metal T-piece, used to attach rope(s) from rigging e.a. ... popeye the sailor and davyboy 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share #347 Posted February 15, 2018 Carl: See that long wooden strip along the inside edge of the coaming in the first photograph? That is what I am talking about. Russ mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 15, 2018 Share #348 Posted February 15, 2018 Thank you., yes, so a cleat is also a protruding piece of wood? Nautical only? Darn foreign languages ... why use the same word for two or more different things src, mtaylor and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share #349 Posted February 15, 2018 Here is another photograph with the first hatch cover made. Russ mtaylor, BANYAN, cog and 4 others 7 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted February 16, 2018 Share #350 Posted February 16, 2018 I would call it more like a sill inside the coaming...the lip in which the hatch cover sits on. the deck came out nicely Russ.......I do the same process with the structures. it's easy to overcome the deck camber with the method......it can be seen inside the hatch. very nicely done russ, cog and mtaylor 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share #351 Posted February 16, 2018 Thanks. Yes, sill, cleat, call it what you will. I actually relieved the underside of the hatch coaming on each end to account for the camber a bit; just enough to get a good fit with no movement. Russ mtaylor, popeye the sailor and cog 3 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted February 16, 2018 Share #352 Posted February 16, 2018 Good jig/idea Russ, makes for a nicely uniform and level hatch cover. I hope you don't mind me pasting this? Carl: Cleat - A strip fastened to one part to hold it in place or to facilitate the fastening of another part. Examples: cleats on the inside of a blanket chest used to hold a drop-in tray. A variation of the cleat that woodworker's tend to use a lot is the French Cleat. cheers Pat cog, popeye the sailor, russ and 1 other 4 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share #353 Posted February 16, 2018 Pat: Thanks. I always enjoy a good jig. Russ BANYAN, popeye the sailor, cog and 1 other 4 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 16, 2018 Share #354 Posted February 16, 2018 21 minutes ago, russ said: I always enjoy a good jig A jig or a reel ... Thanks Pat, that clearifies a lot. Maybe I should have bought that English Oxford dictionairy 30 odd years ago ... or not(?). It seems double Dutch isn't the only dubious language ... popeye the sailor, mtaylor and russ 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted February 17, 2018 Share #355 Posted February 17, 2018 Very nice Russ, it all looks so good. Sam popeye the sailor, mtaylor and russ 3 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share #356 Posted February 17, 2018 Sam: Thanks. I appreciate it. Russ popeye the sailor, mtaylor and src 3 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share #357 Posted February 19, 2018 The hatch covers have been completed except for paint. I am also making the brackets for the planks that would hold the tarpaulin cover in place. There are two on each side of the hatch and the ends. I am going to live with these for a few days and see what I think of them. They may be replaced, but we will see. Russ Elia, popeye the sailor, Wintergreen and 5 others 8 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted February 19, 2018 Share #358 Posted February 19, 2018 Nice looking hatch, Russ. John mtaylor, russ and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted February 19, 2018 Share #359 Posted February 19, 2018 Nice coverage Russ. What's the width of those planks? popeye the sailor, russ and mtaylor 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share #360 Posted February 19, 2018 John: Thanks. It is surprising how much research has to go into what seem the smallest details. Carl: Thanks. The width of the first three hatch covers are 33 inches wide and the last one is 30 inches wide. Russ popeye the sailor, cog and mtaylor 3 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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