Eddie Posted May 7, 2017 #1 Posted May 7, 2017 Hey howya goin all, this will be my third build log of a ship and will be my first scratch build of a boat. I will be starting this build when I get my scroll saw which will be nere the end of june and the timber not to long after that if I stop been lazy and finish the list of timber I need, I was thinking of using Walnut , I plan on making two of these one with the cannon on it and one with sails on it. Longboats are designed to be carried by warships; they are stowed on the upper deck between the gangways, resting on chocks fastened to the deck. With the longboat aboard, the barge is placed inside it, while inside the bargeis the cutter. The longboat's thwarts are removable, allowing the barge to be stowed more snugly. Longboats are the ship's boats most commonly used in the Navy for transport of the heavier loads so frequently required by the warships. Their broad, generous lines are suitable for the diverse tasks which they are called upon to perform: carrying the anchors, a common task when mooring, shore duties, watering parties, carrying stores when the ship is in service. From time to time however they may participate in more warlike activities: harbour defense or the protection of landing troops and raiding parties. Under these circumstances, they are sometimes armed with a single gun, an 18-pdr, 24-pdr or even a 36-pdr. It is then that they are described as "armed boats", and it is this arrangement which is to be seen in this model. It should be noted that there is a distinction to be drawn between armed boats and gunboats: despite the large gun carried by the former on the thwarts, it remains a classic ship's boat, whereas gunboats are larger in size, are frequently decked, and may carry several guns. So heres what I got so far. The one with the sails I'm making I had to order the plans for the sails separately as they don't come in English like the other plans I will be scanning the French language manual into my computer mybe a PDF file and copy and paste it to Google translate to translate them to English. coxswain, aviaamator, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
aviaamator Posted May 7, 2017 #2 Posted May 7, 2017 Eddie! I wish You much success! mtaylor and Eddie 2 Quote
WackoWolf Posted May 7, 2017 #3 Posted May 7, 2017 I am pulling up a chair. mtaylor and Eddie 2 Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :)
Eddie Posted May 7, 2017 Author #4 Posted May 7, 2017 31 minutes ago, aviaamator said: Eddie! I wish You much success! Hey howya goin Aviaamator mate, thank mate, I just edited in more info on the boats if you like to read it. 18 minutes ago, WackoWolf said: I am pulling up a chair. Hey howya goin Joe mate, thanks for joining in I hope you got the beer, I just edited in more info on the boats if you like to read it. mtaylor 1 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
Eddie Posted May 7, 2017 Author #5 Posted May 7, 2017 Hey howya goin all, Iv'e started to cut the moulds for the frame work, after I riped the ply I realize that the strips of ply won't fit into my cross cut sled so I have to make a bigger one tomorrow. As I'm making two boats I decided to make 2 moulds. I have to print 24 plans so cut out the individual shapes and stick them to the ply pieces instead to shape the moulds. Heres alittle trick for some of you for when you are making scratch build frames instead of printing out the frames on plain paper, print them out on A4 size postage labels that already have one sticky side that way you don't have to put glue on the frames and when you go to pull the paper off have to deal with all that glue to sand off. aviaamator, John Allen, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
Tigersteve Posted May 7, 2017 #6 Posted May 7, 2017 Edddie, I think I'll follow this one too. Steve mtaylor and Eddie 2 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways
Eddie Posted May 7, 2017 Author #7 Posted May 7, 2017 Hey howya goin Steve mate, thanks for joining. mtaylor and Tigersteve 2 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
Tim Murphy Posted May 11, 2017 #8 Posted May 11, 2017 This Build should be a great one to follow. I have seen a model of this Boat at a show of the New England, New York & New Jersey modeling groups. Ancre Publishing House in Nice, France publishers some of the greatest Plan portfolio's for this hobby. Good luck with your build! Eddie and mtaylor 2 Quote
Eddie Posted May 11, 2017 Author #9 Posted May 11, 2017 On 5/11/2017 at 1:57 PM, Tim Murphy said: This Build should be a great one to follo Hey howya goin Tim mate, thanks mate, weclome aboard. mtaylor 1 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
WBlakeny Posted May 12, 2017 #10 Posted May 12, 2017 I'm in as well. I have this monographie lying around as well. Eddie and mtaylor 2 Quote Chris Current builds : On hold : IJN Yamato by DeAgostini - 1/250 Completed builds : Bermuda boat Corsair (scratch) President by Sergal - 1/60
Eddie Posted May 12, 2017 Author #11 Posted May 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, WBlakeny said: I'm in as well. I have this monographie lying around as well. Hey howya goin Chris mate, thanks, when are you going to start your? mtaylor 1 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
Eddie Posted May 16, 2017 Author #12 Posted May 16, 2017 Hey howya goin all, I've printed out the templates and have started to cut them up and stick them to the mod pieces, I had to do them in two parts as I don't have an A3 printer and when I get my scroll saw at the end of June I can start to cut them out and start shapeing the mods. Tigersteve, aviaamator, AntonyUK and 2 others 5 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
AntonyUK Posted May 16, 2017 #13 Posted May 16, 2017 Hi Eddie. You got my interest. Looking good so far. Regards Antony Eddie and mtaylor 2 Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section
Eddie Posted May 16, 2017 Author #14 Posted May 16, 2017 Hey howya goin Antony mate, thanks. mtaylor 1 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
Eddie Posted May 20, 2017 Author #15 Posted May 20, 2017 Hey howya goin all, I've decide on the timber for the two boats, the one with the canon will be out of Walnut and the one with the sails will be out of Mahogany. Will be ordering the timber in about 3 weeks hopefully. mtaylor 1 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
shipmodel Posted May 20, 2017 #16 Posted May 20, 2017 Hi Eddie - I am following along as well and looking forward to your progress. The two woods that you have chosen are pretty dark. You may not like the boat that color. You can always stain a wood darker, but not lighter. For comparison, here are two boats that I did, and the lighter one is always the more popular. They are in the same scale as your build, 1:36. The lighter one is stained basswood, the darker is cherry. Whatever you choose, best of success. Dan Eddie, coxswain, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current build -Khufu solar barge, c. 2,560 BCE, a cross-section model at 1:10 scale Prior scratch builds - Royal yacht Henrietta, USS Monitor, USS Maine, HMS Pelican, SS America, SS Rex, SS Uruguay, Viking knarr, Gokstad ship, Thames River Skiff , USS Oneida, Swan 42 racing yacht, Queen Anne's Revenge (1710), SS Andrea Doria (1952), SS Michelangelo (1962) , Queen Anne's Revenge (2nd model) USS/SS Leviathan (1914), James B Colgate (1892), POW bone model (circa 1800) restoration, SS Mayaguez (c.1975) Prior kit builds - AL Dallas, Mamoli Bounty. Bluejacket America, North River Diligence, Airfix Sovereign of the Seas "Take big bites. Moderation is for monks." Robert A. Heinlein
Eddie Posted May 20, 2017 Author #17 Posted May 20, 2017 Hey howya goin Dan mate, thanks for that, they do look good. I dont want to stain them but I will think about the wood more. mtaylor 1 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
Eddie Posted May 20, 2017 Author #18 Posted May 20, 2017 Hey howya goin all, I've just translated the French pages of the sails guide into English it took about 15 min, you got to love technology and bloody curse it at the same time. If anyone wants the English translation here it is, there might some words that Google translate didn't translate. Longboat sail Instruction English.pdf Oh you will need the three plans to know the sail sizes, mast sizes and the extra bits & bobs that go on the boat you can order the plans from here http://gerard.delacroix.pagesperso-orange.fr/Chaloupe_greement/plaquette.htm coxswain and mtaylor 2 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
gjdale Posted May 20, 2017 #19 Posted May 20, 2017 Hey Eddie, I have the plans for this boat too - it's on my "one-day" list. In the meantime, here's an extra tip for you with your sticky label paper patterns. Cover your wood with strips of low tack painters tape first (you can get it in Bunnings). That way, the pattern will be much easier to remove after cutting your timber out. Eddie and mtaylor 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
Eddie Posted May 20, 2017 Author #20 Posted May 20, 2017 Hey howya goin Grant mate, thanks for the tip, I normaly do that when I stick normal paper with spray adhesive to wood. mtaylor 1 Quote I'm probably not going to live long enough to build all these but I'm BLOODY going to try HAHAHA. Future Builds: The Schooner Bluenose, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (Gene Bodnar practicum - Plans from modelshipbuilder.com) HMS Victory, scale 1:64 or 1:48, POF Scratch Build (John McKay's plans) Current Builds: 42ft Longboat Armed for War 1834, scale 1:36 POF Scratch Build (Plans from A.N.C.R.E.) Galley Washington 1776, scale 1:48, POF Scratch Build (NRG's Plans) Ragusian Carrack, scale 1:59, POB kit (MarisStella) King of the Mississippi, scale 1:80, POB Kit (Artesania Latina) HMS Snake 1797, 18 Gun Sloop of War, scale 1:64, POB Kit (Jotika/CalderCraft) Current Build: Stage Coach 1848, scale 1:10, Kit (Artesania Latina) Shhh don't tell the Admins I'm building this I'll hide it here ^under this line^ so they don't see it HAHAHA.
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