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Posted

When starting at the V class with RGL, I got interested in the RN G & H Class destroyers. Thus, got on the net and found this kit

 

Pictures later, I am presently unable to upload any size photograph

 

Some general info:

H-class

  • Type: Destroyer
  • Service Period: 1936-1949
  • Characteristics:
    • Length: 323 feet (98.45 meters)
    • Beam: 33 feet (10.06 meters)
    • Draught: 12 feet 5 inches (3.79 meters)
    • Displacement: 1,340 tons (Standard): 1,859 tons (Full Load)
  • Crew: 137 (Peacetime); 146 (Wartime)
  • Propulsion: 3 x Johnson boilers, 2 x Parsons geared turbines, 2 x shafts, 34,000 shp (25,000 kW)
  • Range: 5,530 nautical miles (10,242 kilometers) at 15 knots (27.78 km/h)
  • Speed: 36 knots (66.67 km/h)
  • Armament:
    • 4 x QF 4.7"/45-caliber Mk.IX dual purpose naval guns (4x1)
    • 8 x .50-caliber machine guns (2x4)
    • 8 x 21" torpedo tubes (2x4)
    • 20 x depth charges (1 x rail and 2 x throwers)

 

Guns will be replaced, either by brass, or 3D printed, I found the torpedo tubes in 3d very appealing so I'll try those again ...

 

First I've got 172 port holes to drill

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
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Posted

Is this the kit thats needs some slight work on the sheer towards the bow (upwards) inlcuding some of the port holes.?

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted
1 minute ago, cog said:

Where did you get that information from OC?

I think I read about it on one of our fellow build sites  where someone compaired the plans of the actual ship with the hull in the kit, and discovered the kits hull is slightly too level and missing some sheer towards the bow,  they recrified it by building up the bow a few mm (not sure of the exact amount)  and filling some of the port holes and re cutting some new ones to follow the new sheer.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted

This is one of the references to the sheer I have found its a diagram that shows it,

 

OC.

bow.jpg

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted

Interesting OC. I would need the top view, and the line plan to get that right as well. There is one other detail: Is that a G class or an H class ... they do differ despite the fact they share the same basis. Furthermore, I couldn't find data for it, so I don't know if all were built in the same yard ... can't imagine with the pressure of WWII, did the yard stick exactly to the drawing ... (need for speed)

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

Posted

Im not 100%  sure carl,   it mentions it even in a kit review  here    -  http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/hms/dd/eskimo-350-tsm/tsm-review.html

 

I am sure that other model makers have said the lack of sheer follows for most of the RN ww2 Destroyers, please foregive me if I am wrong, I have never built one and just quoted what I have read.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted

Thanks OC. I think I'll stick with the wanting hull, as it will be my first attempt at weathering a larger hull (those two 1/700 subs don't count)

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

Posted (edited)

good to see you, grab a seat

 

ordered some reference material:

Title: British and Commonwealth Warship Camouflage of WWII. Volume II Battleships and Aircraft Carriers

Author: Malcolm George Wright (author)

ISBN: 9781848322530

 

 

Title: BRITISH DESTROYERS A History of Development 1892-1953 Drawn by Admiralty Permission from Official Records and Returns Ships' Covers and Building Plans

Author: MARCH Edgar J.

 

Title: BRITISH DESTROYERS OF WORLD WAR TWO. (Warships Illustrated No 4)

Author: BURT R.A.

 

should have done it for Vendetta

Edited by cog

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
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Posted (edited)

Okay ! Make room ! I'm joining too

 

Oh !  I'm already joined !  Hmm. okay time for munchies then

 

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Edited by Jack12477
Posted
2 hours ago, Jack12477 said:

Okay ! Make room ! I'm joining too

 

Oh !  I'm already joined !  Hmm. okay time for munchies then

 

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Hmmmph, lets give you some leeway ... extenuating circumstances

Carl

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Posted

Since I want to build this kit as a RN version (HMS vs HMCS from the kit) I've been looking into the different assets of the kit. For one the armament for an H class is wrong they deliver 4.5" single guns, whilst all H class have been equiped with the 4.7" single variant which has a sharp bent in the casing vs a roundish one in the 4.5" Guns to order. I'll be getting the quadruple vickers to and need to get 20mm oerlikon's which were installed from 1940 onwards.

 

The kit supplies two aft structure types, so I need to wait for the books to shed some light on which one to use. In the mean time I'll start prepping the hull for painting ...

Carl

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Posted

May I join in and watch too? 

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

Posted (edited)

Anybody is welcome so too a flying Dutchman. Though this will be a somewhat slower ride than the previous build. I'll be needing some time to research weathering techniques

Edited by cog

Carl

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Posted
On 24/06/2018 at 2:20 AM, Old Collingwood said:

Im not 100%  sure carl,   it mentions it even in a kit review  here    -  http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/hms/dd/eskimo-350-tsm/tsm-review.html

 

I am sure that other model makers have said the lack of sheer follows for most of the RN ww2 Destroyers, please foregive me if I am wrong, I have never built one and just quoted what I have read.

 

OC.

OC, have a look at this image, I don't see the sheer they are talking about in it

Carl

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Posted

I think you might be right carl,   here is a pic of HMS Hardy I found.

 

OC.

HMS_Hardy_1936.jpg

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

Posted

That's one I need. The aft structure is noticeably shorter than the one in the kit, so I'll need to do some bashing. I found out the torpedo tubes are not quads but pentads like these (courtesy of shapeways - copy right Micro Master)

 

pentad_tt.jpg.caf2a45dc58051f59bbe3408d6c7a352.jpg

Carl

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Search and you might find a log ...

 

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