Cutty Sark by kpnuts - Artesania Latina

[kpnuts]

Hi all been away a while (new job, moved house, negotiating modelling space) i bought this off my brother (he decided it was too frustrating for him) there are a few problems to sort out on it (I need to strip the decking off and square the frame up , it's a bit warped) he took the planking off which has saved me a job (he bought some really thin wood for the planking as he struggled with the supplied wood but it's so thin I can see it disappearing when sanded do I'm going to use the supplied wood) here are some pics, I've managed to get the deck off fairly easily getting the wood off the deck and squaring the frame may be quite a bit harder.

This will be a very slow build.

 

I think the pins hes used in the transom are way out of scale.

[NenadM]

Can I watch?

[kpnuts]

With pleasure.

Hi all well I've removed the deck planking squared up the frame and are attached the front decking. I thought I would get away with doing nothing to the rear deck but on closer inspection I think he put the last 2 bulkhead the wrong way round since the second to last is narrower than the last (the phrase one step forward 2 back comes to mind) anyway I managed to get the rear deck off now I'm not sure what to do the frames seem to be impossible to unglue, any suggestions (I've tried steaming over a kettle but they won't budge) would it hurt the plywood if I soaked the stern in a bucket over night.

[petervisser]

Hi kp. Were it me, I would cut the frames off altogether flush to the keel and then cut out the notches in the keel again. Then I would fashion out some new bulkheads and start again. Hopefully you have the full size drawings to do that.

All the best with your Cutty Sark.

Peter

[kpnuts]

No full size drawings, bought this as a started model but someone suggested I build the smaller frame upto the size of the bigger one then remove material from the bigger one, I think that's the method I will use.

[NenadM]

I was in similar situation, and find solution in posts here on MSW with adding extra "ribs"

Maybe something simillar can helpAnd be very very careful ... any, even minor mistake in hull lines, results in gigant problems latter, and wirh many many repairs. I was in that swamp, with unwanted conseqvence - twisted deck, forced to rebuild fore and after deck, twice - both!!!

Edited October 5, 2019 by NenadM

[kpnuts]

Hi all corrected the bulkheads next problem, now the side panels are correctly installed you can see the stern is too shallow so I will probably build this up with wood filler.

Edited October 7, 2019 by kpnuts

[kpnuts]

Not sure what happened to pictures (I added them the same as always) if you click on the img bit they do display.

[kpnuts]

Well 1 step backwards leads to another step backwards, deck had to come off again. I was about to start planking it again and I thought surely that hump shouldn't be there.

Also I dont know if you can see it from the photo but there is a gap between the bulkhead and the deck (I thought the small oblong hole in the decking was a hatch or something at first but now I see it is a locating peg for the decking) another wrongly glued bulkhead. 

I managed to get the bulkhead off (it wasn't fully home due to wood dust and glue formed at the bottom of the joint) (all nicely held in place with dried glue) took ages to cut it all away, anyway as you can see it's all nicely flush and fitted now.

Hopefully I can now proceed as if it were a new kit (apart from the splits in all the bulkheads due to where it was planked before cant think of anything to do about that, if I glue them back together I think it will make it too hard to put new pins in) I'm hoping when its replanked I can drill holes for the pins (they will only be for show anyway) 

[Thunder]

Hi, now you have lowered that bulkhead it may effect the run of your planking so they may need 'trueing up' again. the ones either side might need material adding.

[kpnuts]

Ok so I've decided to start decking it, the instructions are not at all clear it shows you decking over the false deck by 2 mm for the first 120 mm and no longer mentions that afterwards (I can understand that as the planking for the sides is 2mm thick) but why stop that overlap at 120 mm, I looked at pics of the waterways on the actual ship and it looks like there is a wooden strip all the way along the ship from the front to the stern step so I decided to continue the strip all the way along, first problem was keeping a 4 mm wide strip at 2 mm on the deck and 2mm in the air so I decided to add the first plank on the sides and put the waterways over that, I figure the more accurate I can get the first plank the rest must be better so I took great efforts with the first plank.

 

[kpnuts]

Hi all whilst waiting for my planking to come I decided to start on some of the many other things in this kit, here is a start on one of the cabins.

It's like a kit in its self, I have a feeling I'm going to love this kit, for the calking between the planks I used a lead pencil and just ran it along the edges of the planks.

[kpnuts]

Hi all I have done some of the planking I've cut the planks at 70mm which I think in this equates to 10 yards at this scale (although the planking supplied is I think is over scale at about 12"wide ) I'm not going to add the nail heads as I've seen on the printed decks available in this scale as I dont believe a nail with a head diameter of 6 mm would be visible at this scale at.

The planking is very slow going but quite satisfying.

[kpnuts]

Hi all well this is as far as the decking can go at the moment as I've used all the wood left in the kit for this (they were very generous with wood as it was already fully planked so they nearly give you double what you need) I just hope when the new stuff comes it's similar coloured unlike the last bit (for the waterways which were completely different colours) I realise wood is a natural product so can differ I just hope it's not too much different.

[kpnuts]

Hi all well the planks arrived and I was happy the colour was the same but they must have used the other 3mm because these are narrower also they are not 1mm thick either ( not that that matters much once sanded down) I managed to get a knife under a few of the stuck planks and shave some off the inner sides and squashed them together I'm hoping it will be enough so the thinness of the new planks won't notice.

While I was waiting for these planks I planked some of the sides (I must say I'm quite pleased with the results.

I bought a sprung pin pusher for inserting the pins, I intend to drill the holes for the pins first as the ply on the bulkheads is all split and separated from all the pins used to plank it the first time (I would have glued and clamped them but figured it would make them harder and therefore make putting the pins in harder) I think it's all starting to come together.

[kpnuts]

Planking of the main deck complete, I've given it a coat of clear varnish to bring out the wood grain.

[NenadM]

Go on !!!!

 

[kpnuts]

Hi all got some more of the side planking done and done a bit more to the cabin.

[kpnuts]

Hi all got more planking done, I'm quite pleased with how the stern is turning out.

[kpnuts]

More work on the planking, getting there (mind you so is christmas)

[kpnuts]

Hi all I know I shouldn't yet but I wanted to see how she would look when sanded down so had a quick go.

I know still Leeds a bit of filling in places but I'm really chuffed how it looks at the moment.

[Old Collingwood]

You get through more builds than nelson had badges  - keep it up.

 

OC.

[kpnuts]

Hi all couldn't resist a bit of varnish (just to see the beauty of the wood grain)

[Zarkon]

Wow! Exceptional repair and continuation!

 

Keep up the great work!

 

Jeff

[kpnuts]

Planking nearly done now 



Hope things carry on the way they are.

[Thunder]

Sorry, got to ask, is that the fuselage of a sopworth pup in the fore ground?

[kpnuts]

Hi all, sooo close 

Shaping the planks to fit the ever narrowing spaces  (scharf joints I think their called ) is a very slow job (and each one is a different shape) but it is surprisingly satisfying when they finally fit.

[kpnuts]

Finally finished the planking of the hull, luckily the top half is black so I can hide the bad bits under the paint, I'm really pleased with the bottom half though which is good since I will just be varnishing that and leaving the wood to show.

I must admit its turned out far better than I hoped it would.

[kpnuts]

Hi all planking done and varnished, made up the stand, painted the black top part and added some more to the decking structure.

[kpnuts]

Bit more done on this.