ancre SAINT PHILIPPE 1693 by Heinrich der Seefahrer - 1/64

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

Hello, I do start here my scratch project in SAINT PHILIPPE as a parallel built to benefit from the kit bashing knowledge.

The SP was build to replace the lost of the burnt down elder SP-1669 set on beach by her crew and sneaky burnt down by the British.

 

SP-1693 is to be found in some decoration drawing of the Toulon dock yard an in some oil paintings of here only seabattle in 1704  - but like very often we have to keep in mind that the artist was not very often aboard at the battle and preferred to paint in their safe cabinet instead so the results in detailing may leck more than a bit! But in here we will follow all the tracks to the original appearance of SP-1693. 

 

The 2nd (our) SP fought in two battles one at sea (Sae Battle of Malaga - pictures above) and her last as a floating battery. 

Here the well known transom I will show the differences in detail to the Ancre plan (two and four 36pfds gunports for example) show later on. 

 

The next source is the book of Winfield & Roberts "FRENCH WARSHIPS IN THE AGR OF SAIL 1626-1786"

...and certainly the beautyful

Ancre Monography:

 

 

But back to the prototype:

 

The SP-1693 was 51ms long in keel and was wearing 90 guns and was reconstructed over 15 years by Mr. Lemineur in an Ancre monograph in 2018 - (sadly there are some Errata in the plans and pictures in there so I will try to give an advice to those I am able to figure out.) this 90 guns will be a problem later on as we will discuss than. 

 

Even in 1/64 she is an astonishing beast and I do celebrate her building start in a contemporary manner:

 

The resulting model is of over three royal French feet (324,8mms) length... 

So I yesterday went into my favorite copyshop and invested the amount of money for a hole Ancre monographie into an ink (not laser) printout in 1/64. Some of the plan's sheets are wrongly named in scal. (So beware to check the scale length bar!!!) 

 

Here the Heller hull and the drawing in comparison. 

 

And the beautiful side view if the mighty SP. 

 

Frist step is to build a dummy hull skeleton from card board to check the needed space in the flat. 

 

Hopefully you like this project limping behind the Heller bashing:

 

Sorry for my bad English in before. 

 

 

 

[ccoyle]

This will be quite an undertaking! I wish you every success as you begin.

 

Cheers!

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

Here the only beliefable picturing of a French Man-o-War in these paintings:

 

But it is an abriviation but it shows four stern gunports to us but the gallerys balconies and an elaborated coronament  are missing. (This gives a good prototype for a fine 70th pirates ship from Monogram!) The flag is also wrong because on every ship where the kings was't aboard the insignia in the white flags are missing - "pure blance" was the result (but it is often ignore due to the modern meaning of the flag I think). 

 

So we can put away these contempotal paintings as a resilient source. That is a pitty. But one other picture is left that shows a golden transom under a French flag:

And this is just a bad joke I think... 

Edited February 25, 2020 by Heinrich der Seefahrer

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

On 2/25/2020 at 3:19 PM, ccoyle said:

This will be quite an undertaking! I wish you every success as you begin.

 

Cheers!

Thanks a lot for your interest, ccoyle, and take a seat! 

 

Today I lived in the Copy Shop to get my 1/64 recuced copies in ink. So I managed to copy, mirror and glue together the former plan. 

 

So this night I will add the linings on the individual bulkhead plan and than tomorrow start to cut out in card board. But I am afraid I didn't have bought enough cardboard... 😕

 

So tomorrow I will be able to go to the DIYstore and get (some baseboard for the 1/92 stand and) some thicker cardboard or thin MDF for this project's mock-up model 😁. 

 

Thanks for watching in in here. 

 

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

Sorry guys,

not too much happened tonight. The big triangle rulers are still missing 😞. So I needed a plenty of time to get the CWL improvised on the main bulkhead/M. G. M. in some acceptable quality... 🙄

 

On the other hand I decorated the 1100mm long ship (l.o.a.) unter my moose's husband to testfit the space needed for the fully rigged ship. 

So tomorrow more will happen (hopefully) - I do have to join the DIY-shop around the corner and pick up a hand full of heavy cardboard at my girlfriend's company. 

 

Thanks for watching! 

 

This it was from

here

now

&me

 

Goid night, 

 

Heinrich 

[Jaager]

You have not indicated yet how you plan to fabricate the hull.  Should you intend to do it POF,  this will be about as complicated an exercise as it gets.

The hull is a monster - as you note, over 3 feet long at your scale 1:64, which is 0.75 times the length of the monograph plans.

As drawn, the two sides of a bend do not meet on a common plane.  There is an alternating box mortise.  I intend to forego replicating that particular detail, should I try this ship.

It is probably before its time in being all bends fir the framing.  The extra work done on mating the bends,  I file as an unnecessary detail that did not reduce hogging and was not used in later ships.

I explored using Navy Board framing for this hull.  The curvature of the hull has the head of those floors so far above the base line, that the width of the stock and waste of wood is too much for me.

I could justify doing Navy Board at 1:120,  but there are so many carvings that I would go totally mad doing them at a miniature scale.  You will have a real challenge doing them at 1:64.

 

The real gotcha is that there are four different intervals for the station lines over the length of the hull.  They are not different intervals of a common R&S.  There are four different R&S.

By my measurement - converted to Imperial -  6 are 10' 3" with timbers sided 15.4",  6 are 9' 3"  - timbers 13.9" ,  3 are 9' 11"  - timbers 14.9",  1 is 12' 9" - timbers 12.75".

The mid ship has an extra bend and dropped space so that the floor timber of each bend can be on the side facing the mid line.  This flipping of the pattern looks to be something unique to the French.

The English and North Americans seem to keep the floor on the same side thru out the length of the hull.  I have no data for other European countries.

If you are using POB, you just must pay attention to where the molds are placed.

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

Hello Jaager, thanks for the helpful advice. 

I plan to build in a 1st step an easy mock-up PoB unarmed hullmodel from cardboard or MDF to catch such troublemakers before investing money in the real model! I think I will follow the usual way of PoB-building by a full pice of plywood under the 36pounder deck with a groove for the midlel board. The spaces between the bulkheads will be filled with softwood. So I can take the water lines  at additive points of fastening the planking. So every bulkhead has the deckbeams under the decks from the cuts. By this I will also know the thickness of the panks and wales. 

Here the MGM:

And the bulkhead and the cut side by side:

I think of planking the hull in plastic to be able to imitate the grain in sanding the plastik stripe. But I am not rally shure, as I may use wood due to the easier handling (on the mockup I will have to look for the right thickness of the cardboard layers on the bulkheads.

 

My idea is to plank this model in a way I get a planking plan for the real shipmodels. Under water there is a thick paste over the wood idealistally in light white - realistically there was sulfur in it so it will have looked yellow -grey-dirty. 🤔😩

But as we all do play in a nice modeling world I will paint SP white as snow due to this here is no need for finescaling the planks under the anti-fouling layers of plumbum, sulfur, &ct. 

As far as I know is this technic due to the fixing of the formers by nailing them on the wales - so the planking could only take place between the Wales and running parallel to them. What is going to give to us a very harmonic appearance. Here it is clear to see that the Wales arend pinned onto the planking they are the start of it! 

But PoF is far out of my thoughts, abilitys and budget! And I am not a man that would build a French ship in a typical British manner like an Admiralty Model. I am much too conservative for thinks like this. Sorry I am and old and old fashioned man. Showing the real wood construction is a great act of modellism. But using an idealistic or symbolic pattern (as in a typical navy board) of formers isn't my way to build a model. 

I do like Navy Board models very much  but only if the name's prefix is an H.M.S. - sorry for this diminished point of view. 

 

But back to what is to be done - the French builded ships with a nearly horizontal area admidships giving an elliptical area - what contrasted the thumblehome of the hull above and makes this ships so very interesting to me:

This makes the ugly Heller SR-hull a bit better when you file away the sharp edge towards the planks. 

 

Thanks again for your interesting and delighting text! I will draw in the bulkhead plans the CWL /L.F. very precisely to avoid any errors. You are very welcome. 

 

This from 

here

now 

and me... 

Heinrich 

Edited February 27, 2020 by Heinrich der Seefahrer
Picture added

[Jaager]

I agree that Navy Board framing style is best restricted to 17th C. English vessels.  I developed the Naval Timber framing style as a way to have a similar framing but not cross that line.  But Philippe's floors would still be too expensive in wood for my comfort.  The as designed framing has reasonable sized timbers.  The all bends with narrow spaces is very similar to the majority of Antebellum USN vessels that I have lofted and I was wanting something a bit more artistically elegant.  The rest of the ship certainly tops the list for art and elegance. 

 

I bounced around so much when deciding how I would plan the framing, I forgot what I settled on.  Checking, it seems that I picked Davis/Hahn.  All bends, increase the sided dimension of frames to include the space and omit every other bend. The result is wider frames and room = space.  That is what Navy Board is where there are spaces, except that it is every other frame instead of every other bend.  Of course about 1/3 -1/2 the area is solid wood because the timbers of the side by side frames scarf and the timbers in a frame do not butt.  It does save on wood.

Edited February 27, 2020 by Jaager

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

Dear Jaager,

 

the hull's shape (as with RENOMMEÉ one more wonderful example by Ancre) are perfectly for being displayed upside down to show that wonderful full lining of the formers*. 

Nothing is as elegant as a baroque former model! 

 

But I think I wouldn't face towards the saving of wood - I would face the run of the bottom flat surface line ("level" is right word?) this is "bestly"***  done by following the one of the few plans I did not copy&resize:

The Framing Elevation Plan - we certainly do safe wood and money but by sacrifying the enormous effect of the original appearance due to penny picking - (in my point of view a fully planked PoF model is a sin to all those that want to learn something as all the detailing done in the inner parts of the ships stays hidden to the viewers if not one side stands unplanked to give us these pedagogical view into the minimized original thing - but on the other hand nothing can be  more prototypical that's the receiving of absolution {to stay in a religious wording}.) 

^Picture*****

I am on the other side of the front line and do say: "What you will never see is to  be done to be useful to it's reason of construction - but nothing more. But to get the wonderful elegant effect I would sacrifice a bit of my dogma... 😉

_____________

*I do think about a very small NPoPF** (in 1/144 or 1/192?) to show the beauty of the skeleton hull****. And being build from the plan without cutting in the gunports. 

**N_o P_lanks o_n P_lastic F_ormers painted as wood

***as I learned in a Dublin pub... 😉

**** The temptation is not to try to imitate ivoree 😁😁😁

*****...and if you look on the palisade of wood in front of you it was safer to do your duty with the 36pfds 😏

Edited February 27, 2020 by Heinrich der Seefahrer
Added picture

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

 

Hello colleagues, as I got this Russian video I got some idea how to inspect the plans accuracy very easy. So I will follow this double check method and dive away fore some days... 

 

...and yes I do play Silent Hinter III 😁😁😁

 

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

Short view through the periscope down in the boat for those who are interested: 

 

A.) CHECHING SYMMETRY

B.) LAYING THE CWLs 

 

 

I have seen the Russian videos about hull constrution and symety tests and are following this path through out the next days.

 

A.)

Here my first pair of compasses test to symmetry for the Ar-bulkheads:

 

If the line meets the crossing twice exactly on starboard 

 

AND portside

 

than my copy is exactly right done... 

 

"Constructing is always and in anyway much more exactly than measuring."

 

 

B.)

And by this I pointed out the line of I Ar. 

by a yellow aquarell pencil and was able to lay the L.F. (French = CWL) 

 

Let's proof the concept:

Starboard hits the LF-line

at portside, too

- so the big question is if it is rectangular to the CL? 

😁 YES! 😁 

 

Now the same for all the eight other AR-bulkheads. 

 

After this turning in the Av.-segment towards the stem. 

Edited February 27, 2020 by Heinrich der Seefahrer

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

Now the very same for the Av.-lines:

The chicking with the pair of compasses schows an light incorrect measurement about 1/10 of a millimeter on the backboard side:

The portside picture does not load up so I cannot show you how exactly the radii meets the printed line. 

My problem for tomorrow is to name the top ends of the forecasted bulkheads right as the mix up the do seperate but can I count them and  address them in this simple way? This question is for the Ar. poopdeck lines certainly, too. 

 

Is anybody who could help me? 

I want to copy every bulkhead's former before starting the cutting out on paper. 

 

 

Edited February 27, 2020 by Heinrich der Seefahrer

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

Till now everything was fine, but it does appear the Fault-Monster:

 

I compared the plate 2, waterline, with the plate 1 the side view cut my water lines at the CL I placed it along the L. F. - so the former lines must fit. 

 

But they doesn't do this!

The stem isn't in one place at all. 

The COL (first line behind the stem) is displaced in the waterline plan about 4mm much more than 1/4 of a meter in the original ship!

 

My basic idea was to use the Waterline to cut spacers between the bulkheads AND do shape the lines of the ship in one step. 

 

 

Nearly a meeting of two lines... 

The MGAr and MGAv are nerrly mirrowed to the MGM with hardly a distance error. 

 

 

 

"Go back to the drawings and identify the very right "placeiation" for the bulkheads!"

 

Edited February 28, 2020 by Heinrich der Seefahrer

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

I looks as is in here a CADproblem... 

Here is shown that L.F.(blue) and MGM-former (orange) are rectangular. 

 

 

The layer of projection changed between the L.F. and the NOT paralell keel layer... 

What gives some disgusting differences. 

 

The 1° angle between L.F. and keel layer may explain the shifted former lines in the deck drawings. 

 

So I can only use the CL orientated drawings and the former orientated drawings - if these were placed right!!!

 

This is the question...whether tis nobler in mind... To suffer the sings and arrows of outrages fortune... Or to buy some 250x240mm and 300x240mm plywood

 

 

and by apoising end them and drink some tea under sea. 

I got my ordered wood for the model today and a drawing "tea for two". 

[Jaager]

Heinrich,

Lofting Philippe was such a nightmare that I had blocked two of the additional complications. 

The station lines and the frames are not perpendicular to the keel. The keel is the base line. They are canted forward about about 1.3 degrees (I did not record the exact value).  I used the Body plan as being the actual shape and not squished to the perpendicular. 

With my method, I had to rotate the profile to get the decks, wales rails, and sills  to the proper place and getting a location point was tricky. 

If you do POB and use the Body plan to shape your molds, you will have to slot the molds at the proper angle.

 

The last station aft is not what one would expect.  It is the shape of a different line sloping aft.  I had to loft a new one for my method.  

 

As for my La Renommee -  yes it is sort of POF but with the spaces permanently filled.  It may seem a waste to do the work and hide it, but it is not really.  It is faster to do than making temporary space fillers for true POF and probably faster than POB if you fill the area between each mold and have to carve the filler into shape.    But,  St, Philippe should probably be the last ship one builds and not the first or an early one.  It is a magnum opus.  The number of carvings alone is intimidating.  The plans are much more complicated than the usual ship because they are a replication of an idiosyncratic  late 17th C. French style.  They are probably true to the original, but they can drive one used to 19th C. standard presentation crazy.

[mtaylor]

Christian,

It's very possible the drawings in the monograph are the problem.  The author of the monograph you're using is the same one who did the Hermoine and it has errors also.  I would say, use one side of the drawing for both sides that way they will be the same.  I've run across similar problems for plans by others also so it doesn't seem uncommon.

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

Hello friends, yes I am very very thankful for your both helpful advices and I am documenting the problems in here for all those that want to build the SP later on. 

 

It was absoloutly clear to me that SAINT PHILIPPE would be an enormous project of great difficulty. But I decided to start with her as the next ship shall be ROYAL LOUIS 1667 or DAUPHIN ROYAL 1668 so what I want is the luxurouriourious overwhelming decoration of the Sunking's 1st Navy I have to admit. 🤗

 

So I will have to go with the plan and cut mit notches on the middelplate in an angel of 89.1° - that sounds awful.

 

But we are where we are!

 

And so fixing points for the decks must be stem and stern and an self made grid about the plan.

 

Bad news are piling upto each other... 

 

...and now I am in real trubble because Plate 1 has an enormous problem:

 

The L.F./CWL and the MGM-former is NOT RECTANGULAR! So I checked the rest of the AR and Av lines and NOT ONE of them is rectangular to the L.F./CWL!!! Okay this may be problem due to the reduced copy so I contrachecked the 1/48 original Ancre plan:

And it also nor of the formers is  rectangular to the L.F. - either to the keel. The only paralellity is given by the formers to each other-the formers are parallel to each other. 

I also checked the original plan in 1/48 to check for copying faults or errors... 

The angle L.F./MGM is in all Plates about 89.1° - So we are all that we do build the SP are in real trouble, aren't we? 

I also checked the original plan by Ancre on the Sideview and cut on Plate 34, Plate 17, Plate33 and got the same result of 0. 9° missleaded rectanglarity... 

 

Thanks for the patience with my curved way towards the model. 

 

P. S. :

So it is totally clear that Ancre is going to kill its world wild reputation by publishing shifted plans of L'HERMOINE and SAINT PHILIPPE. I thought about buying their newest monographies of the Galley FLEUR DE LYS. But as the printouts come from the same publisher I am VERY VERY DOUBTFUL to belief that G. Delacroix's work isn't "infected'' by this problems, too. I thought about the new LOUISE as a present for a friend of mine - but now not in any way. I may buy the old hand drawn planes of the founders Berti and Boudriot but no new productions.

Sorry Ancre but I am fed up with this way of working with your customer's expectations. 

 

 

 

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

And due to this I invented the "rectangular to the formers line" in German Purple:

 

And made shure it is rectangular:

 

Next step is the adding of the grooves for the 6mm thickness of the bulkheads. 

 

Edit - ready:

 

Next problem the stem's round and the high poop deck. 

 

Edited February 29, 2020 by Heinrich der Seefahrer
Pictures added

[Jaager]

Although I do not have the galley monograph, I do have all of G. Delacroix's large vessel monographs and they are excellent.  The two that are in question - present two different problems.

Hermoine - the problem seems to be with a few of the extracted bends - for those who guild POF and want each frame already lofted for them.  I do not use the extracted frames, so no problem for me.  My criticism is with the choice of paper - thumbs down on the thin glossey paper stock.

 

St.  Philippe - is not a mistake at all.  I think that Lemineur used original plans in the French archives and augmented them.  The ship has drag.  If a ship has drag, there is a choice to be made.  Do you slope the keel and assemble the frames perpendicular to Earth's gravity or have the keel be the baseline and be horizontal and mount each frame at an angle (but the same angle).   The object being to have the frames perpendicular to LWL  and the keel at an angle when afloat.

Most builders probably started with the keel at an angle and the frames 90 degrees to the Earth.  That is just one timber to futz with instead of over a hundred.   The 17th C. French naval architect choose the other way.  The additional work in building this way is probably why it was usually done the other way following this.  Not that I think Philippe was an object lesson.    This definitely makes St. Philippe more of a challenge,  but it is not a mistake.  Everything flows from the original choice to be true to what the original architect did. 

 

Should I succumb to madness and frame this monster, by using the Station Sandwich Method, the angled frames are no problem.  The keel goes last and it will be at an angle.  The difficulty for me was in the lofting.  I used the Body plan as being the actual shape of each station and had to rotate the profile at each station to vertical.  I want the location of all the guts sighted on each station.  There is no common baseline so getting the profile in its necessary location required a lot more attention than I usually have to expend.

[G. Delacroix]

Hello,

It is certain that certain new plans of Ancre present anomalies which it is difficult for me to justify.
What I would like to say is that the monographs of which I am the author, and which are now sold by Ancre, come from my stock and that they have been tested by many model makers.
You have no need to worry about their reliability.

 

GD

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

The problems a side I like to bring the mock-up-model as a hullmodel with enclosed gun port lids and without guns. There maybe no interior in the stateroom and the officers apartments (I think about aluminium foil to imitate the windows). 

So I went into page 9 of the monography where I did finde the picture "sheer hulk for the kings vessels at Rochefort shipyard" where in the background the vaisseau is a threedecker and the decoration is "compareable"(Lemineur) to that of SP - so this might be TONNANT.

Devided to her sister and flagship by the absence of a lattice gritt over the highest vries between their fleu-de-lys.  

Intersestingly the decks or even the wales are NOT painted darker - I can't figure ot if the the space between the wales is shadowed or painted. But the decoration background is cleraly darker than the wooden part below. Looking at the most upper wale this is absolutely clear. There are several possibilitys in this time a verdisgrin based turkis-green was quite popular due to the idea of the royal blue. Or a greenisch grey - I would think the coloures were different from the vermillion red of SP. This as the distinguation from the similar looking flagship in the battle was very important. 

 

I think about three RAL colours as back laying base:

 

(I do perfectly know that the RAL-coloursystem was invented in Germany in the early 20th of the XX. century but it is a good starting point as the colours are allways the very same we do discuss about.)

The 6027 (as 6034) would need for the bluish tone some lapislazuli and would have been very expensive colours in the XVIIth century.

 

Yes I am looking at the very nice verdigis green at L'AURORE 1766 at the Paris Bibliothèque Sainte-Geneviève - but this is 70years younger.

Does anybody has some historical more correct ideas?

 

Missing the figurehead (I could certainly fllow the SR-pdel of the Paris Marirtime Museum and avoid an uncleard Figure head but as the Figure of Saint&daemon is so prominent at SP I would like to finde a allegorical figure for the "Thunder" 

As I looked arround for a figure head I found this very late XVIIIth century figurehead of a twodecker  TONNANT (86guns) with the pain of an abbreviation of a baroque figurehead.  

and the typical oppulent and luxourious Coffiere made decoration of transom and side gallerys from 1743 - missing my needed figurehead example. Perhaps anyone of you has a figurehead drawing of TONNANT I could use as a prototype. 

  

Here the figure standing in the couronnament:

and as detail:

 

Or looking at the FOUDROYANT  (flash fiering) - no thunder without of any fired flash:

So there may be similarities - and I do know I'll edit this artiocle when I did figure out where I did hsd had seen the FOUDROYANTs figurehead's drawing belonging to this transoms view. the side gallerys drawing and the king wor war flaing on an eagle and throwing thunders... 

Edited March 1, 2020 by Heinrich der Seefahrer
Pictures added

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

Here the body plan of SP used by Mr. Lamineur:

It is obvious the keel is horizontal to us and

are the main deck's lines.

And there is also a Sideview of the ship:

...with a proper L.F./CWL in it (but lacking the lowest wale). 

All of these is part of Chapter I "presentation of sources" page 7ff.

 

 

 

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

...and I did find a TONNANT - the ship from 1740 and found the right green-grey

 

but as you cannot get it all - no figure head is looking ahead:

Edited March 1, 2020 by Heinrich der Seefahrer

[lflixuejun]

Hi：I have a picture about the

“sheer hulk for the kings vessels at Rochefort shipyard”.  

[lflixuejun]

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

That makes life a lot easier! 

 

I think this massive white hull with its red Ries was an astonishing object to the viewers in the Mediterranean sun light at Toulon! 

 

The colour scheme I do believing into as the noblest French infantry regiments used 

 

white 

red

gold

 

also in the same mixture:

 

State of the art 😁

Edited March 2, 2020 by Heinrich der Seefahrer

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

To the very beginning g as used some music that I do listen to while drawing and thinking to kerf p my mood relaxed and my emotions calm:

 

 

And as the problem of colour schemes with my mock - p is happyly cleared by an contemporary document through Iflixueyun's wonderful pictures I can now went to my status quo: 

 

I pushed my 75% copy of Plate 16 under the frost paper to figure out where to place the upper deck and those above - due to the enclosed hull und shut gun port lids you will have only these as a top of the monster of a ship. 

 

My Marple plywood is 0,7mm thick and it will be glued on quite soft 4mm poplar plywood so I will end the center board and the bulkhead 4,7mm below the decks line. Am I right or did I forget any important issues? 

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

...and as there is no difference between the underwater part and the hull side (in the printing from Rochefort) the colour has to be white and not a light grey. Sometimes life can be so kind! 

 

 

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

 

My workshop gets a disc sander 250mm is hopefully enough for three Deckers scaled down to 1/64...

 

...I foold my colleauges with the thermos in orange saying it is the original one of my "class mate Otto von Bismarck" and noone figured out the lapsus in the "signature"... 😆

Edited March 3, 2020 by Heinrich der Seefahrer

[Heinrich der Seefahrer]

Hello the workshop got supplyments a small bandsaw

and a hight measurng tool

 

now I am onmy way to the DIYcenter to get som 640x1200mmx{something stabil} baseboard