aaronc Posted August 25, 2020 Share #1 Posted August 25, 2020 Just given the quick scan I've done I like the book,...even if it is a bit dated. It's my 2nd one on the subject,..picked up my first a year or so back. Just curious if this guild was still active? It's stamped just inside the cover,..google didn't bring up anything related that I could see. EricWilliamMarshall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted August 25, 2020 Share #2 Posted August 25, 2020 I found some info in a google search: Ventura County Maritime Museum Model Guild 2731 South Victoria Ave. Oxnard, CA 93035 I can not tell if they still exist or not. Regards, EricWilliamMarshall, mtaylor and aaronc 3 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye2sea Posted August 25, 2020 Share #3 Posted August 25, 2020 Further update. The museum may have changed names to the Channel Islands Maritime Museum so the model guild may be named that now. Regards, aaronc and mtaylor 2 Quote Henry Laissez le bon temps rouler ! Current Build: Le Soleil Royal Completed Build: Amerigo Vespucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronc Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share #4 Posted August 25, 2020 Henry,...thanks for the response. Best Regards, - Aaron mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronc Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted August 25, 2020 Yep you nailed it,.. "The Museum began as the Ventura County Maritime Museum in 1990 at Fisherman’s Wharf at Channel Islands Blvd and Victoria Avenue in Oxnard" I copied this from the site. It also says they house the largest number of POW bone ship models in the US,...must be some museum. Thanks again. EricWilliamMarshall and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dziadeczek Posted August 25, 2020 Share #6 Posted August 25, 2020 Over a period of ~ 25 years, I visited this museum probably about a dozen of times, or so. And each time I took a handful of photographs. So, today I have quite a collection of pics from there. It is not nearly as big as, let's say, The US Navy Museum in Annapolis, but It is a very interesting little maritime museum, with an exceptionally friendly staff, mostly of volunteers, passionate individuals, who fondly greet every visitor and are willing to help him/her. This is the museum, the next NRG conference will be held next year. Their collection of ship models includes, among the others, about half a dozen ship models by the late Edward Marple, who was a dental technician, so he was quite handy with his dental drill and was using it quite skillfully for carving the ornamentation for his models. Among those especially interesting ones, are his Sovereign of the Seas, the Royal George and the Royal Katherine... The museum also has quite an interesting collection of maritime paintings, among them a large format painting of the Royal Sovereign by Van de Velde the Younger. I also like very much their paintings by John Stobart. Here is a handful of my pics from my last visit in June 2019. (Hopefully I will be able to attend the upcoming Conference and revisit their models again). Sovereign of the Seas by Edward Marple Sovereign of the Seas by Edward Marple Sovereign of the Seas by Edward Marple Sovereign of the Seas by Edward Marple Vasa by William Siegfried Xebec L'Indiscret by Unknown galley La Reale de France Frigate Seahorse by James Cutler Royal George by Edward Marple Royal George by Edward Marple Royal Katherine by Edward Marple John Bentham Dinsdale "English King Charles II receiving the fleet after the Battle of Solebay 1672" prisoner of war bone model Royal Katherine by Edward Marple Mars HMS Serapis Charles Martin Powell "British Man-O- War with Dutch Sailing Vessels in a Choppy Sea" 1805 Chinese Exhibit Steam Yacht "Mayflower" Steam Yacht "Mayflower" John Stobart "Vallejo Street Wharf, San Francisco 1863" Montague Dawson "The Atlantic sailing packet Daniel Webster" Jonn Stobart "Clipper Ship 'Nightingale' Towing Out Past Greenwich in 1852" John Stobart "Nantucket Sunrise" Edward Marple's workplace (museum reconstruction) E. Marple's workplace E. Marple's workplace E. Marple's workplace HMS "Prince" Edward Marple's last model (unfinished) E. Marple's workplace with unfinished HMS "Prince" E. Marple's workplace & unfinished HMS 'Prince' E. Marple's workplace - detail Roy Cross "Robert E. Lee in New Orleans 1870s" Roy Cross "Steamer Adelaide Passing Fort McHenry" Roy Cross "The Devonshire" John Wilson Carmichel "Squadron of Frigates and Fishing Vessels in a Choppy See off Holy Island" And the last pic here is a general view of Mr. Marple's workshop (reconstructed) again BobG, Gregory, pjofc4 and 16 others 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronc Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share #7 Posted August 25, 2020 Impressive,...thanks for posting. mtaylor and ferretmary1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryland Craze Posted August 25, 2020 Share #8 Posted August 25, 2020 Looks like a nice book. I will have to look for a copy for my library. I have edited the topic to reflect the book you are showing. I am looking forward to the NRG Conference there as the pictures show that the Museum is my type of place I like to visit. ferretmary1, aaronc, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretmary1 Posted August 25, 2020 Share #9 Posted August 25, 2020 I checked the CIMM website and it still lists the guild. It meets on the 3rd Tuesday of each month at 6:30 PM. It didn't say whether they were suspending meetings because of the virus. You might be able to call the museum and ask. 805-984-6260 According to the museum's site, they are still closed, but the model guild may be meeting somewhere else during the interim, or as many clubs are doing, meeting by email. Ryland Craze, aaronc and mtaylor 3 Quote Mary Van Dahm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronc Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted August 25, 2020 I have a large library of my other interest,...I like books. My ship model library is just getting started. Just FYI it can be readily found online and is inexpensive. I'll post my book titles up in good fashion in the future 👍 Ryland Craze and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronc Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted August 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, NRG OFFICE MANAGER said: I checked the CIMM website and it still lists the guild. It meets on the 3rd Tuesday of each month at 6:30 PM. It didn't say whether they were suspending meetings because of the virus. You might be able to call the museum and ask. 805-984-6260 According to the museum's site, they are still closed, but the model guild may be meeting somewhere else during the interim, or as many clubs are doing, meeting by email. I bought the book online. I checked the shipping info and it came from the Simi Valley, CA..,, right where the museum and guild are located. Makes me wonder if someone simply didn't return it,....perhaps passed away..then a family member sold it with other belongings?? Who knows. -Aaron Ryland Craze and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretmary1 Posted August 25, 2020 Share #12 Posted August 25, 2020 Considering how stained the cover is, it could be something that they sold off to raise money for the club or they no longer had space for all of their books so they sold some off. If you are really worried about it, contact them and tell them how you got the book and ask if they want it back. Be prepared to go looking for another copy for yourself if they do. Ryland Craze and mtaylor 2 Quote Mary Van Dahm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronc Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share #13 Posted August 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, NRG OFFICE MANAGER said: Considering how stained the cover is, it could be something that they sold off to raise money for the club or they no longer had space for all of their books so they sold some off. If you are really worried about it, contact them and tell them how you got the book and ask if they want it back. Be prepared to go looking for another copy for yourself if they do. I'm not hiding the fact that I have it. I'd gamble members here belong to the that guild. I've got a whole 5$ in it. If they felt like I Jesse James'd it I would reimburse them via PayPal and let them do there own shopping. Yes it's stained and could have been discarded for that reason. It actually appears to be glue..not surprising. Honest wear on a good vintage book doesn't bother me...info is still as valuable. I was only curious if the guild was still going or had long since disbanded. Glad to see it's still active.....and a museum with bone ship models to boot. mtaylor, Ryland Craze and ferretmary1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 26, 2020 Share #14 Posted August 26, 2020 Well, I had planned on attending this conference but along came the virus. I'm cursing it even more now after seeing those photos. Just have to wait until next year. MEDDO, aaronc, ferretmary1 and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretmary1 Posted August 26, 2020 Share #15 Posted August 26, 2020 Que Carley Simon "Anticipation" 😀 mtaylor and aaronc 2 Quote Mary Van Dahm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgman Posted August 26, 2020 Share #16 Posted August 26, 2020 Some notes on the book. It was published in 1942 by W. Norton Co. with a forward by H. I. Chapelle, who praised Grimwood book as an excellent guide book for beginner modelers having much useful detail to make good models without to much difficulty. Drawings in the book could be use to build a model from as they are clear and uncluttered. Subject ranges from brig of war"Boxer" to a model racing yacht, 1930s era, by various draftsman. If considering buying a copy, look for the first edition as the drawings are fold out and more useful. Bridgman Bob BobG, aaronc, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted August 26, 2020 Share #17 Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 11:43 PM, Dziadeczek said: Here is a handful of my pics from my last visit in May 2019. Thank you for posting the photos of these amazing models. I'm not very familiar with these great warships so if anyone can sequentially identify the names of the ships in these photos it would be great. mtaylor 1 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretmary1 Posted August 26, 2020 Share #18 Posted August 26, 2020 Bob - Most of the models have name plates and if you click on the picture, you can enlarge them enough to read the plate. There are a couple without visible nameplates and someone with more expertise than I would have to name those for you. Mary mtaylor and BobG 2 Quote Mary Van Dahm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted August 26, 2020 Share #19 Posted August 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, NRG OFFICE MANAGER said: Bob - Most of the models have name plates and if you click on the picture, you can enlarge them enough to read the plate. Thanks very much. mtaylor 1 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretmary1 Posted August 26, 2020 Share #20 Posted August 26, 2020 Bob - I also just noticed that after you click on the picture, it has the ship's name in the URL bar at the top of the screen! Mary BobG and mtaylor 2 Quote Mary Van Dahm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dziadeczek Posted August 26, 2020 Share #21 Posted August 26, 2020 Sorry for this omission - I corrected it plus added some more pics from one of my earlier visits... Regards, Thomas BobG, Ryland Craze, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretmary1 Posted August 26, 2020 Share #22 Posted August 26, 2020 Thomas - Thank you for sharing these and for updating your post with ship names and modeler's names if known. We hope to see you at the conference next year! Mary Ryland Craze, mtaylor and BobG 3 Quote Mary Van Dahm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted August 26, 2020 Share #23 Posted August 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, Dziadeczek said: Sorry for this omission - I corrected it plus added some more pics from one of my earlier visits... Fantastic models and paintings. Thanks very much! Marple's work is amazing and his carvings are stunning. mtaylor, ferretmary1 and Rik Thistle 3 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobG Posted August 26, 2020 Share #24 Posted August 26, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 11:43 PM, Dziadeczek said: prisoner of war bone model Is this model made entirely of bone? mtaylor and aaronc 2 Quote Bob Garcia "Measure once, cuss twice!" Current Builds: Hms Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 - Vanguard Models Pen Duick - Artesania Latina 1:28 Completed: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Co. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk1313 Posted August 26, 2020 Share #25 Posted August 26, 2020 Thomas- thank you for posting the pictures, very interesting- hal mtaylor and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretmary1 Posted August 26, 2020 Share #26 Posted August 26, 2020 Bob - Yes they primarily are. Here is a link to more information on these models: https://maas.museum/inside-the-collection/2010/02/15/prisoner-of-war-bone-ship-model/ mtaylor, aaronc and BobG 3 Quote Mary Van Dahm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 26, 2020 Share #27 Posted August 26, 2020 Thanks for the added photos, Thomas. I never made the connection with Marple"s work shop and the museum until now. I have seen photos of it before somewhere but even then only one or two of the work bench. BobG and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronc Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share #28 Posted August 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Dziadeczek said: Sorry for this omission - I corrected it plus added some more pics from one of my earlier visits... Regards, Thomas Thanks for the pics,...love the added ones as well. That Marples fella musta been something else...I've ran into his name a few times the last day or two here browsing. I'm going to spend some time later this evening doing some internet digging on him. - Aaron Ryland Craze and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronc Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share #29 Posted August 27, 2020 I found this pretty readily. I'm sure it'a already around here somewhere but it might be new to someone. I found it to be a great read with several nice pics. http://www.education.maritime-museum.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/marple.pdf BobG and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dziadeczek Posted August 27, 2020 Share #30 Posted August 27, 2020 6 hours ago, BobG said: Is this model made entirely of bone? As far as I know. They used beef bones from their food rations. Except, of course, for the rigging. I was told, that some of those prisoners used their own long hair and twisted it into ropes for their models. Hard to believe... mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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