San Ildefonso by Sjors - FINISHED - OcCre - 1:70

[trippwj]

Very nice pictures, Sjors.  Nice paint jon on her!

[Patrick Haw]

Nice work Sjors. I like your hull planking and your caulked decks. Great job on the detail on the stern gallery too.

 

Patrick

[Sjors]

Thanks Wayne and Patrick.

 

Sjors

[Sjors]

Especially for Augie who thinks that my grand old lady has no theeth……. 

 

Sjors

[john46]

Wow, that is what they call a double hull vessel. Now I understand how this complex structure works out.

They are looking great Sjors.

 

Regards

John

[Sjors]

Thanks John,

 

I didn't know that the San Ildefonso was even bigger then the Le Mirage.

But…….double fun with building it.

 

Sjors

[augie]

OK, I'll admit........I'm impressed.

[Sjors]

One more picture before I go to work.

I've try'd to make the round curve with metal.

It's not perfect but good enough for me.

Also the doors are in place.

 

Sjors

[patrickmil]

Sjors, the progress is looking good. The doors look clean and the metal has good profile and curve to it.

[gieb8688]

I placed all the frames and they where straight.

I cut out the deck and dry fitted it.

Now I find out that the false keel had a twist.

And there are two parts glued together.

When I glue them together ,they where straight.

I don't know what I've doing wrong.

Or I make a BIG mistake.

 

Sjors

Hi Sjors,

What did you end up doing to resolve the twist in the false keel?

Thanks,

Mark

[Sjors]

Hi Sjors,

What did you end up doing to resolve the twist in the false keel?

Thanks,

Mark

 

Hi Mark,

 

I placed the keel into a rail with the same thickness as the keel it self.

Then I dry fit the deck and because they where 4 parts of it,I was not so difficult to get it straight.

And don't forget, my false keel where two parts.

It turns out that after placing the deck, the false keel has no twist anymore.

You have the same problem?

 

Sjors

Edited February 20, 2013 by Sjors

[Sjors]

Hi Sherry,

 

What is your next build?

 

Sjors

[Kevin]

lol - you have been busy

[Sjors]

Hi Kevin,

 

Busy with work you mean…..

Work is not bad but the only thing is, It cost me so much building time…..

I have the late shift so on day time a little building and watching the site and then go to work.

 

Sjors

[newbuilder101]

Hi Sherry,

 

What is your next build?

 

 I was given the plans for the San Felipe - I know it's a big challenge but I'm going to give it a try.

[ocean clipper]

Hello Sjors you did a nice job  on that planking,every time i look at you ship i keep thinking it is a mini victory its the yellow paintwork with the black bands that does it

                                                                     DEREK                          

[Sjors]

 I was given the plans for the San Felipe - I know it's a big challenge but I'm going to give it a try.

 

Are you saying that you are going to the dark side Sherry?

The San Felipe is an beautiful ship.

I hope that you come at my side 

 

Sjors

[Sjors]

Hello Sjors you did a nice job  on that planking,every time i look at you ship i keep thinking it is a mini victory its the yellow paintwork with the black bands that does it

                                                                     DEREK                          

Hi Derek,

 

What do you mean by mini……..

 

On the outside she is indeed looking as the Victory.

But that's all ( I hope )

Not that I don't like the Victory but I love the San Ildefonso…..

 

Sjors

[newbuilder101]

Are you saying that you are going to the dark side Sherry?

The San Felipe is an beautiful ship.

I hope that you come at my side 

 

Sjors

 

Yes, I am going to the dark side! Here's the deal...I'll help out with the war by showing my 104 guns, but I'll leave the cannnon balls at home so Anja isn't upset with me!    

[Sjors]

Deal Sherry!

But she don't know that we are shooting with cotton wool plugs…...

When you get started with the San Felipe, give me a call.

Difficult this way because you can not call me.

Ok, in other words, give me a signal 

And save a seat at the front row for me.

 

Sjors

[augie]

I heard about Sherry 'going over'.  Ah well, Sjors and I will just keep cranking out those kits.  It's better for the economies

[Sjors]

It's still crisis in the Netherlands Augie.

We can help our government with this…...

 

Sjors

[augie]

Both governments should be rolling in dough based on the amounts of paint and glue you and I buy.  

[Sjors]

That's correct!

 

It cost us an fortune…...

 

Sjors

[Beef Wellington]

Very nice build Sjors, it now somehow easier to find the great build logs now that there are fewer of them (I had missed yours before).  Will definitely be following closely.

Edited February 21, 2013 by Beef Wellington

[Sjors]

You are more then welcome Jason.

Behind Augie there is a seat available….

 

Sjors

[Sjors]

I knew I missed something…..

Yes, the history of the San Ildefonso.

So here it is again.

SanIldefonso was a ship of the Spanish Navy launched in 1785.

She was designed to be lighter than traditional Spanish vessels which had had difficulty matching the speed of ships of the Royal navy.

Though nominally a 74-gun ship the San Ildefonso actually carried 80 cannons and howitzers.

She saw service against French and British vessels in the late 18th century, sailed twice to the Americas and was trapped in Cadiz by the British blockade.
San Ildefonso was captured by the British third rate HMS Defence at the Battle of Trafalgar and successfully weathered the storm afterwards to be taken into Royal Navy service as HMS Ildefonso.

Design,

 

San Ildefonso has been described as a technical milestone in 18th-century Spanish shipbuilding.

Having fought the Royal Navy in various wars.
The Spanish admirals were concerned that their ships could not match equivalent British vessels for speed.

The San Ildefonso incorporated many amendments from traditional Spanish designs in order to improve her speed.
Instead of traditional iron bolts holding the hull together the vessel utilised much lighter wooden treenails.
The upper parts of the ship were made from pine and cedar instead of oak to reduce weight and lower the centre of gravity and the vessel was constructed shorter in length than a traditional Spanish seventy-four would be.

Though considered a seventy-four (or third rate) ship, in common with other vessels of the time, the San Ildefonso actually carried more guns.

She was equipped with 80 in total comprising 16 eight pounder cannons on the fore-deck and 6 eight pounder cannons, 10 thirty pounder howitzers and six twenty-four pound howitzers on the aft deck.

However unlike most other Spanish ships of the line (including all those present at the Battle of Trafalgar) the San Ildefonso did not carry any four pounder anti-personnel "pedrero" cannons.

Service,

 

The San Ildefonso was designed by Romero Landa and built by J. Fdz. Romero de Landa at a yard in Cartagena.

She was ordered on 23 February 1784 with her keel being laid down a little over a month later.

She took ten months to build, being launched on 22 January 1785.
She began a forty day sea trial period on 19 August 1785 but shortly afterwards was disarmed at Cartagena and placed in reserve for 2 years and nine months.

San Ildefonso was refitted in 1788 and underwent more trials before being placed into reserve once more in October of that year.

She was reactivated again in April 1789 and made a cruise to Cadiz in August, becoming damaged on the way.

San Ildefonso underwent a third period of reserve later that year before being reactivated and having her interior layout rearranged.

San Ildefonso then sailed on campaign against the French and British navies for four years beginning in 1793.

She returned to port at Cadiz on 3 March 1797 and was subsequently  blockaded in that port by the Royal Navy.

San Ildefonso sailed to America twice from 1798 to 1802 as an escort to convoys of galleons.

During these voyages artillery officer Luis Daoiz de Torres, who would later lead the Spanish forces against French troops in the Dos de Mayo uprising, served aboard the ship due to a shortage of trained naval officers.

San Ildefonso was placed in reserve at Ferrol in 1802 for the last time in her career.

After another period of refit in July and August 1805 she joined the main Spanish fleet prior to the battle of Trafalgar
In her career to this point San Ildefonso had been in Spanish service for 21 years but had spent 9 of those years disarmed in reserve and had not fought any engagements.

At Trafalgar San Ildefonso and her commander, Commodore Don Jose de Varga, were captured by the British third rate HMS Defence.

Defence was at the rear of the British line and so joined the battle later than most other ships but had already dismasted the French 74-gun ship Berwick before engaging the San Ildefonso.

The Spanish vessel had already been damaged in the action and after a fierce fight lasting less than an hour surrendered to the British Defence suffered only 34 casualties in return.

San Ildefonso was successfully sailed to Gibraltar by the British, surviving the storm that followed the battle.

She was taken into British service as HMS Ildefonso.

The145 m² (1,560 sq ft) naval ensign that San Ildefonso flew at the battle was hung in St Paul's Cathedral at Admiral Nelson's funeral on 9 January 1806.

The flag, damaged during the battle, was presented to the Royal Navy Museum by the cathedral in 1907.

 

Sjors

 

[Sjors]

I have placed the standard to hold the bowsprit and when i try to put in the bowsprit it not fits!

 

So a little adjustment and now he fits...

 

Sjors

 

[gjdale]

Hi Sjors,

 

Nice to know your bowsprit fits 

 

Keep up the good work my friend.  You'll be in the rigging before you know and then you and I can do our sea trials together!

 

Cheers,

[augie]

Always requires a little 'adjustment'.  Working out great.

 

And thanks for re-posting the history!