HMB Endeavour by Micklen32 - OcCre - 1:54

[Micklen32]

Well here we are with my fourth OcCre build

This will be my biggest build yet and I expect it to take me a while

My previous ship builds have been the Sergal Racehorse and Thermopylae

The Racehorse being a quite small ship at 1:48 scale was a nice easy starter whereas the Thermopylae, a much bigger ship at 1:124 scale really tested me

You can see the site I built for the Thermopylae here   http://micklen.50megs.com/

My most recent ship has been the OcCre Spirit of Mississippi the log of which can be found in my signature

 

This build however will be my most advanced as it includes full sails

Here are the bits out of the box.  Please click on the thumbnails to open the photos in Photobucket

 

  Here are the two parts boxes containing all the small parts.  It doesn't look too much until you start counting things

 

  Next are the miles of cordage and the small sheet of pressed brass

 

  These are the thinner, simpler laser cut sheets such as decks

 

 These the more complicated pieces and coloured parts

 

  And the thicker, heavier cuts that are the bulkheads and the like

 

       Here are the sails

 

  The planking, other wood strips and rods

 

  The stand, an extra I purchased

 

       And finally the various instructions

 

I was really happy to see the main instructions to be in Spanish AND English

The diagrams are in Spanish only but there are only lists of what parts are on the page and that should be easy to translate

The instructions are a surprisingly small set of five pages but the photograph book and the diagrams are very comprehensive

I shall probably start work on the false keel and the frames tomorrow

Let me know if the Photobucket photos work well and if not I will try to use the system on the site but I did have problems with that 

Here's to the start     

Edited July 8, 2013 by Micklen32

[Anja]

Hello Mick,

 

I will follow this one.

 

Good luck, happy modeling and enjoy!

 

The Photobucket pictures work well.

 

Anja

[Adrieke]

yay got a seat at the front. the kit looks nice much better then the AL one

 

yuou going to have fun with this one

Edited July 9, 2013 by Adrieke

[ZyXuz]

Hi Mick,

I've just visited your links, and you had your RaceHorse nicely done! great job!

 

Have fun with your new kit!

[rowand]

Hi Mick,

I'm with Adrieke on this one, got a front row seat and a nice cold one, Cheers!

 

rowand

[JeffT]

I have this kit sitting on the shelf. Looking forward to seeing your build progress.

[RiverRat]

Hi Micklen32,

 

Good luck with your build!

 

Contrariwise, I think linking to a photobucket image, slowly opening a separate tab,really is a nuisance. Just what problem are you having? It's usually a simple straightforward process using the site's system.

 

If you're having trouble, try this forum:

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/forum/47-questionsinstructions-on-how-to-use-and-post-to-this-forumsite-problems-or-suggestions/

 

Brian

[GTM]

Hej MIck,

Nice size & choice of ship, The kit seems very complete..

i'm looking forward to see and follow your progress. 

(Take your time ..   )

[Sjors]

Hi Mick,

 

I see that there is on the front row not seat available anymore so I go sit a little behind...

Enjoy your build 

The wood and goodies are looking good.

I will place the popcorn machine because we need that….

For the drinks you have to go to Wayne or Mark.

 

 

[Micklen32]

Thank you everyone

I think at this rate there will be people in the hall as the bedroom is full   

Brian, I will try the other system again as I did have some people mention it on the Spirit build

The problem I had was I could only get a couple of photos on one page before the page seemed to just end

I will have a go though

 

The kit is very complete 

My only worry is the instructions do not seem to include anything at all about fitting the sails

The diagrams do seem comprehensive though and the the build videos in 'Build the Endeavour' at least give me an idea

 

Sjors, I do have a popcorn maker but it is nowhere near so big as yours   

 

Regarding refreshments, has anyone a large fridge they can bring as ours is now totally full

An ice maker would be useful as well   

 

Right that's enough chatting

I am about to put the false keel together and I am going to really take my time to get it right as I will the whole build

 

EVERYONE ENJOY!!!!!!!!!

 

Mick

Edited July 9, 2013 by Micklen32

[gjdale]

Hi Mick,

 

Looks like I'll have to join Sjors in the second row. I'll get the beers and he can share the popcorn - that might keep him quiet for a while, but I doubt it.

 

I hope you can manage to work out the photo system here, as I have to agree that while the photo bucket does work, it's a little inconvenient.

 

Good luck with the build and I look forward to following along.

[Micklen32]

Here we go then

I can't do too much of it because 1. I am waiting for the parts for the Taxi as I really want to finish that before I really get going on this  2. I need some superstrong upholstery thread for the caulking

 

This is how I fared today though :-

 

 

The false keel went together well with the reinforcing pieces either side.  This soon gives you an idea of the hull size of the ship

 

 

I dry fitted the frames to see if everything was good and as you can see from the second photo the fit was as near perfect as it could be so I went ahead and started gluing

 

 

I cut myself some spacers to ensure the frames were at perfect right angles

 

I let each frame dry a bit before adding the next and while I was waiting I made a jig and cut some planks

 

 

The instructions say to use full length strips and show cross joints by drawing lines but I prefer doing it right.  I am still not 100% sure how to show the wood nails or whatever you call them.  I may just dot with a pencil or a fibre tip unless anyone has a better idea

 

 

Well that is the framing done.  As the next job is planking the decks I won't be able to do that until the cotton arrives but hopefully that won't take long

I like using the cotton, it worked really well on the Thermopylae and following the instructions with the Spirit and using pencil, I did not enjoy that and I didn't think it looked as good

 

I realised what I was doing wrong with the photos here.  I was using add picture rather than add file and that works so much easier

 

There should be more here in a day or three.  May have the bar fitted up by then too   

 

Keep it up   

Mick

Edited July 9, 2013 by Micklen32

[Anja]

Hello Mick,

 

Nice start, the framing looks good.

What kind of cotton or thread do you use for the caulking?

 

Looking forward to your progress.

 

Anja

[Micklen32]

Hello Mick,

 

Nice start, the framing looks good.

What kind of cotton or thread do you use for the caulking?

 

Looking forward to your progress.

 

Anja

 

 

Thank you Anja

 

I will be using a dark brown upholstery thread as it is thicker and a lot stronger than normal thread

I did try normal thread but it doesn't show up so much and if sanded it just disintegrates

 

Keep it up 

Mick

Edited July 9, 2013 by Micklen32

[st george]

Nice start Mick, I will be following with interest.

[gjdale]

Nice start Mick. Glad to see that you managed to work out the photo thing.

[Adrieke]

of to a flying start Mick  you almost caught up to me already in the build lol

[Sjors]

Good start Mick !

 

I'm are using a pen for the caulking and it works good for me .

I will see how it goes with the thread…..

 

[Sjors]

I found the bar Mick,

 

 

And you ask for a freeze ?

Let me see if I can found one…..

 

 

Is this ok with you?

 

[Micklen32]

Great Sjors

Now we can really get to work 

 

Without the thread can't carry on with the main build........................BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's a boat on board isn't there so I can start that 

 

 

Well there is the frame on it's support

That obviously comes away later but is there to make life easier until you have finished the planking etc

 

Now this model does not come with oars but I feel it needs them for authenticity

I couldn't find a lot of detail so I am asking you lot if this looks good

 

 

The oar is 70mm long making it 3.8m or 12' 6" full size

 

I need VERY critical advice on the shape and size

It still needs very minor shaping but I wasn't going to spend an hour on it if you think it's the wrong shape

 

PLEASE give me your advice on this one

Also should the boat be carrying a mast do you think?????????

There is nowhere to fix a mast so it could be purely oars

What do you think??

 

Keep it up 

Mick

Edited July 10, 2013 by Micklen32

[Micklen32]

Where are you all??????

I don't want to do any more oars until I get an idea if they are about right

 

Luckily I still had something to do 

 

 

Yes the lickle boat

 

 

I had to stain some of the 1 x 3mm strip to plank the boat

The instructions said to stain it first but I suppose half of it will be sanded off 

 

 

It was a little more difficult than I expected and I certainly admire Grant a lot more with his scratch built boat 

There is still a bit of sanding to do then start to fit the boat up

That is for tomorrow

 

Let me know about the oars by then please 

 

Keep it up 

Mick

Edited July 10, 2013 by Micklen32

[Adrieke]

hi Mick the boat looks great.

 

about the oars i am no expert but almost 4 metre sound sreally long and would be difficult to handle

[RGL]

If this is the ships boat, have a look on my log as I included oars and masts. I used to row and the Iars to an 8 were about 10 foot long.

[st george]

This page might help with regards to the oar size.

 

 Typical sizes and termination for oars in ship´s boats

[Anja]

Hello Mick,

 

That's a nice little boat.

I'm glad Greg and David gave you some advise on the oars.

 

Good luck,

 

Anja

[Sjors]

Hi Mick,

 

The oar is a little bit oversized…...

Normally it is not so long as the hole boat.

It takes 10 man to handle it 

Or you want to need it on the Endeavour itself……..

 

[Micklen32]

Morning all 

Thank you for your thoughts and information

 

If I am reading the information David sent right it's not the length that's the problem so much as the shape

The boats real length would be around 21' and on boats of that size the oars could be up to 14' long which is over 4m

So the length of my oars are not far out but the shape seems to be right off

On the boat I will be fitting what they call 'Tholes' which are pins that fit into a hole in the oars and for that purpose the oars are quite wide for what appears most of their length

I was quite surprised reading the information as it seems that oars went up to the enormous length of 25'  that is over 7.5m

I presume they were manageable because they sat on these pins rather than just loosely in rollocks

 

So I will make the oars taking this picture as a pattern

 

 

I will finish the boat and then make a pattern for the oars and start knocking them out as there needs to be 10 

I am making them out of tongue depressors that I used to use to stir stuff and they should be perfect

 

Anyway back to sanding and building the boat

Keep it up 

Mick

 

P.S.   Oh yes Sjors,  I was thinking of getting a few slaves and a big drum to get the Endeavour through any calms   

Edited July 11, 2013 by Micklen32

[Micklen32]

Here we are with more work on the lifeboat

I sometimes wish we weren't working with laser cut parts as the edges are of course heavily burnt and it is almost impossible to get them clean without causing damage

I am of course talking about the much smaller parts that the boat is made up of

I think that problem is going to make me paint it

Whether I am too heavy handed or whether it is almost impossible to remove the burning........................................

 

Anyway I had a fairly good day

 

 

The first job was to add the rubbing strakes

 

 

Then fit the floor of the boat and the rear seat

 

 

Then I fitted the seat poles and the seats themselves

I have to confess the line of poles are maybe not as straight as I would have liked 

The seats had to be fitted in two actions as they have a slight bow in them

The pic shows the peg holding the end down to create the bow

 

 

The last thing today was to fit the gallant rails, keel, rudder and a bit at the front

There is still a fair bit to do as there are 10 tholes to fit but that will give me something to do tomorrow

The thread should come tomorrow but then I also have 10 oars to make   

Can we have a double grog ration tomorrow please   

And no water in it   

 

Keep it up   

MIck

Edited July 11, 2013 by Micklen32

[Sjors]

Hi Mick,

 

You are quicker then me with the little boat….

I just want to start planking.

So, I get the wood and …..yep, wrong wood 

I found it very difficult to bend it…..2 mm thickness.

I have to take wood that is one mm thickness 

So, no planking for me today.

Maybe monday?

My boss like it when I come to work for a few days.

But you keep posting so I have something to read when I get home !

Let the crew enjoy there double grog       

 

[Anja]

Hello Mick,

 

That's a nice little boat you have there.

Good luck with the 'tholes' tomorrow.

 

And your double ration of grog will be served at dawn.

 

Anja.