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Hello

 

I'm going to make a second wood part from extra wood in kit . I have a paper template that I want to attach to wood I'm going to shape.

 

What type of glue do you recommend.

 

Will all purpose white glue be ok with cleanup of wood after or would you recommend another.

 

Thank you

Posted

I attach a lot of patterns.  I need the patterns to stand up to abuse.  I use BestTest rubber cement - because I get it in pints or quarts, I also have Bestine (n-heptane) to keep it at brushing consistency.

The main trick is to use a liberal coat on both surfaces - let the thinner evaporate - then place the pattern.  It is a "get it right the first time" situation.  There is no fine tuning of the position.  Any brand name rubber cement should serve your need.  It is false economy to go generic though.

 

Long ago, before the Internet, before there was help, I used PVA for a model.  I did not know about isopropanol  being the reverse agent.  I used sandpaper to remove the pattern.  That was a serious amount of work.  But there was no problem with the pattern moving or popping up.

 

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Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
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La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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Another method is to copy the drawing and save it in any file, then insert it into a drawing program and size it to whatever scale you need if it needs to be sized.  Barring a CAD program, scan the drawing with your printer/scanner, save it in a file, then print it on label paper which you can get at any office supply store or on line.  Once printed you can then just peel off the backing of the label paper and stick on the wood. Be sure the wood is free of dust, etc.  A quick wipe with a tacky cloth or even a damp cloth (then let it dry) will make it sufficiently clean to allow the label paper to stick to the wood.  If you go this route you still have your original drawing to work with should you need it.

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Posted
1 hour ago, allanyed said:

Another method is to copy the drawing and save it in any file,

Home scanners have a scale distortion factor - my guess - to make copying paper currency more difficult.

ANYWAY, if you wish a scan to print out an exact copy of the original, the scale distortion factor for your specific machine needs to be determined.  It is a constant, so determining it once is enough.  Just be sure to document it.

 

Guys here write that commercial blueprint operations provide an exact 1:1 copy.  I used a company for a NMM print color scan.  They do signs and advertising.  The color PDF - while good, also needed to be reduced to 70% to match the original.

 

There is also a "maybe" method - it did not work well enough for me - inkjet(?) print on a sheet of paper with wax/plastic coating on one side and iron that directly onto the wood.  Probably works better for scroll cutting cartoons - something without a lot of detail.

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Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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I use 3M 45 spray adhesive.  Think of it as contact cement in a rattle can.  I remove the residual glue with a razor blade.  Just be sure to use it outside.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Jaager said:

Home scanners have a scale distortion factor - my guess - to make copying paper currency more difficult.

I have an Epsom scanner that doesn't induce distortion.  Real easy to check - make a scan at 100% print it out at 100% and then using a light box or window hold the copy over the original to see how close it is.  I have checked and the copy is identical.  It's a home type with a maximum copy size of 9 x 14.

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Posted (edited)
11 hours ago, kurtvd19 said:

I have checked and the copy is identical. 

I guess I am just unlucky, but my Brother unit requires anything scanned to be scaled up 102.5%.

I used a transparent metric ruler as a scan object and print out check.

I also had to set a canvas size in Painter that does not give or entice Windows Photo Viewer to "adjust" the size of a document to be printed.  Having the border thing checked by default is an extra click that I have to always pay attention to.

Edited by Jaager

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Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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