Edward Stein Posted December 19, 2021 Share #1 Posted December 19, 2021 I already started this build when I found this site. I haven't built a ship in 10 years but I always dreamed of building this kit. The price tag has prevented me from building it sooner. I purchased this kit from someone who had started it and there where pieces missing. The keel I had to make from a piece of oak and I will most likely stain it to match. Like others, I have had to make a lot of modifications to the parts supplied. I built Model Shipways U.S.S. Constitution and I was thinking of putting lights inside it but the gun ports where to small to see inside the gun deck. But this kit has bigger gun ports so I was thinking this could be the ship to add lights and more detail for the gun deck. I know by doing this that the lights can never be replaced so I'm not sure about doing it. If anyone has any thoughts on this, I would love to here them. I'm terrible at planking. I have watched videos and read many different techniques but every time I try it never goes the same. So I will muddle through this planking as I have always done. GrandpaPhil, robdurant, Lee J H and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLBren Posted December 19, 2021 Share #2 Posted December 19, 2021 Its a great kit - mine is fully planked and has been sitting waiting to be finished. I too wanted to make modifications but decided to build it straight forward. As far as planking if you choose to use the walnut planking - buy a large metal pipe to soak the boards which makes it much easier to bend the boards. And make sure to glue successive boards as you plank from the wales to the upper ones so there are no gaps. The only issue I have with it is the pot metal gun carriages which should be scratch built for a better result. PM me if you want any photos. stuglo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee J H Posted December 20, 2021 Share #3 Posted December 20, 2021 This work has been suspended for me, too. I believe this production period will help a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share #4 Posted December 21, 2021 I decided to make my own gun carriages so that I can rig them. The ones that came in my kit where not casted well. I would love to make some brass strips for the sides but I'm not sure how to cut them. I have no tools to cut metal that small. Ian_Grant and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuglo Posted December 21, 2021 Share #5 Posted December 21, 2021 With the sails (or even without) this is a great model. Just have fun. Edward Stein 1 Quote current build- Swan ,scratch on shelf,Rattlesnake, Alert semi scratch,Le Coureur,, Fubbs scratch completed: nostrum mare,victory(Corel), san felipe, sovereign of the seas, sicilian cargo boat ,royal yacht caroline, armed pinnace, charles morgan whaler, galilee boat, wappen von hamburg, la reale (Dusek), amerigo vespucci, oneida (semi scratch) diane, great harry-elizabethan galleon (semi scratch), agammemnon, hanna (scratch).19th cent. shipyard diorama (Constructo), picket boat, victory bow section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share #6 Posted December 22, 2021 I found a real thin sheet of brass in my bone yard. I like this look so I'm going into full production with it. GrandpaPhil and Ian_Grant 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted December 26, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted December 26, 2021 The new version of my gun carriages using hardwoods from the advice of ChrisLBren. I like this a lot better and I've already started to mass produce them. I will be painting the wheels later. I am also very close to being done with the planking on the lower half of the hull. GrandpaPhil, ChrisLBren and Ian_Grant 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share #8 Posted December 31, 2021 A jig I made to rig the cannons. I know that the rope coils are not accurate but it is my first attempt at it. ccoyle, GrandpaPhil and zappto 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share #9 Posted January 15, 2022 The lower gun deck is finally finished. It was a lot of work making the cannons but now that it's completed made the effort so worth it. GrandpaPhil and ccoyle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share #10 Posted January 15, 2022 My trail run with the lights. The picture does not show the true color of the lights. It is a dim soft yellow color. You can see inside the lower gun deck pretty good so I'm going to keep the lights in the ship. Ian_Grant, ccoyle and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLBren Posted January 15, 2022 Share #11 Posted January 15, 2022 Looks great ! Cant wait to get to finishing my WVH after finishing Bismarck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted January 15, 2022 8 hours ago, ChrisLBren said: Looks great ! Cant wait to get to finishing my WVH after finishing Bismarck Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted January 15, 2022 Share #13 Posted January 15, 2022 I love the lights Edward! A question, hope you don't mind, is the cannon/carriage construction and their rigging what is instructed in the kit? The reason I ask is that the running out tackle has the double and single block on each side reversed compared to what is normally seen. Thanks Allan Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share #14 Posted January 24, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 5:21 PM, allanyed said: I love the lights Edward! A question, hope you don't mind, is the cannon/carriage construction and their rigging what is instructed in the kit? The reason I ask is that the running out tackle has the double and single block on each side reversed compared to what is normally seen. Thanks Allan I wasn't sure how to do it so I just made a rigging plan that I thought was right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share #15 Posted January 24, 2022 Upper deck is now planked and ready for the deck furniture. ccoyle, Ian_Grant, Bill Morrison and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted January 24, 2022 Share #16 Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) Hi Edward No harm especially as they are on the lower deck. For the upper deck, they are likely set up with two single blocks with the line attached to the block hooked to the bulkhead ring, then run through the blocked hooked to the ring on the carriage, then back through the sheave hole in the block at the bulkhead. Following is a rough picture, thousand words, yadda yadda. Allan Edited January 24, 2022 by allanyed Bill Morrison and HardeeHarHar 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardeeHarHar Posted January 24, 2022 Share #17 Posted January 24, 2022 Having rigged a gun tackle backward, I can attest, it is easy to do. I had only done one side of one cannon, so I redid it, and then have just about finished doing the other 9 in the way that @allanyed has described, which is also how it is shown in the AoS HMBV Granado. Bill Morrison and allanyed 2 Quote Brian Current Builds: HMBV Granado 1/64 Caldercraft; HMS Sphinx 1775 by HardeeHarHar - Vanguard Models 1:64-V2 Completed Build: HMS Bounty's Jolly Boat 1/25 Artesania Latina; Master Korabel - 1:36 Yefin Nikonov's Secret Vessel On the Shelf: HMBV Granado 1/48 CAF Model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share #18 Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/24/2022 at 7:55 AM, allanyed said: Hi Edward No harm especially as they are on the lower deck. For the upper deck, they are likely set up with two single blocks with the line attached to the block hooked to the bulkhead ring, then run through the blocked hooked to the ring on the carriage, then back through the sheave hole in the block at the bulkhead. Following is a rough picture, thousand words, yadda yadda. Allan This does make more sense then what I did. I wished I could have seen this diagram earlier. It's to late for me to make the changes on the lower decks but I will rig the rest of the cannons this way. Thank you for sharing this with me. Bill Morrison and allanyed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share #19 Posted January 28, 2022 The upper deck is completed with the lights. scrubbyj427, robdurant, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share #20 Posted January 28, 2022 I'm so glad I put the lights in. GrandpaPhil, robdurant, scrubbyj427 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdurant Posted January 28, 2022 Share #21 Posted January 28, 2022 Very neat work with the lights. I just found this thread. Hope you don't mind if I follow along. It looks like you're making great progress! 1:50 is a nice scale to work in. How big will she be when she's rigged? Bill Morrison 1 Quote Current build(s): Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler "Erycina" (Vanguard Models, 1:64) Paused on the lofting floor: HMS Bristol Portland class 50-Gun Ship (Scratch build, 1:64) Paused builds: Barque "Stefano" (MarisStella, 1:63) / Trawler "Nordkap" (Billings Boats, 1:50) / HMS Triton 28 gun frigate cross section (1:64) / F138, HMS Rapid Type 15 Fast Anti-Submarine Frigate (based on above Deans Marine hull, semi-scratch, 1:96) / HMS Mercury (1779) (Shipyard Models, Paper, 1:96) Previous builds: ἈΘΗΝΑ (Athena) (6th Century B.C.) Greek Bireme (Dusek, 1:72) / Zulu "Lady Isabella" (Vanguard Models, 1:64) / HMS Ethalion (1797) from HMS Diana (Caldercraft, 1:64) / HM Cutter Sherbourne (Caldercraft, 1:64) / Completed partially built Royal Yacht Caroline (Panart, 1:47) / HM Schooner Pickle (Caldercraft, 1:64) / M32, HMS Cottesmore MCMV (Sirmar / Fleetscale, Semi-scratch, 1:48) / D98, HMS York, Type 42 Destroyer (Dragon with White Ensign Photoetch, 1:700) / K166, HMCS Snowberry Flower Class Corvette (Revell, 1:72) / R97, HMS Grenville Fleet Destroyer (Deans Marine, 1:96) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share #22 Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 5:47 AM, robdurant said: Very neat work with the lights. I just found this thread. Hope you don't mind if I follow along. It looks like you're making great progress! 1:50 is a nice scale to work in. How big will she be when she's rigged? The measurements are H - 35 3/4" W - 18" L - 43" approximately robdurant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share #23 Posted February 1, 2022 My first major oops. I failed to mark the hole before I planked the deck. I'm going to try and pull up those pieces but I've never tried this before. The build was going so well up to this point, I guess it was inevitable that a major mistake was on the horizon. Bill Morrison and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share #24 Posted February 1, 2022 After 45 minutes of painstaking carving and removing an extra plank due to a knife slip, all I have to say is "What hole!". I am thrilled I was able to do this. scrubbyj427, Bill Morrison, robdurant and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted February 1, 2022 Share #25 Posted February 1, 2022 For future reference, if you used PVA glue, just wet it with denatured alcohol and it will soften the glue and things will come Free easily. Looking good! Bill Morrison and Edward Stein 1 1 Quote Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share #26 Posted February 5, 2022 The forecastle and quarter decks are almost done. I have eliminated rigging the rear of the gun carriages due to the limited space on these decks. I'm not going to do anything else until I get the whales done. I have been dreading this step but I can't put it off anymore. scrubbyj427 and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Stein Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share #27 Posted February 6, 2022 After seeing what others on this site has done to bend thick wood, success! It was actually easier then I thought it would be. Oh how I love this web site! scrubbyj427, robdurant and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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