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Hi Clementine

 

All the planks would be about 10" wide midships and would be tapered the same rather than some a lot and some not at all.  It is is the same procedure as setting up planking on the ship itself (NOT the kit method😀)  

 

If not too much trouble, can you say what boats and their sizes are in the kit, be it launch, cutter, pinnace or what have you?  THANK YOU!

Allan

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On 7/2/2022 at 12:42 PM, allanyed said:

Hi Clementine

 

All the planks would be about 10" wide midships and would be tapered the same rather than some a lot and some not at all.  It is is the same procedure as setting up planking on the ship itself (NOT the kit method😀)  

 

If not too much trouble, can you say what boats and their sizes are in the kit, be it launch, cutter, pinnace or what have you?  THANK YOU!

Allan

Hello Allan,

sorry for taking so long to get back to you i have been pretty busy. i believe the kit comes with 2 launch boats, and a pinnace not sure about the other one. the measurements are

a little over 12mm for the two on the left, 12mm for the middle one on the right and a little under 8mm for the one on the very right.

i dont really know if these are accurate to the real ship or if im right in the boat types so i hope i could of helped 

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I realize this is absolutely not your doing and you are pretty much stuck with what OcCre provides, but this raises the question, do any kit makers provide plans and parts for realistic ships' boats to go with the ship in the kit?   

Allan 

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PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series.   Click on http://trafalgar.tv   There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time.  THANK YOU

 

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1 hour ago, allanyed said:

I realize this is absolutely not your doing and you are pretty much stuck with what OcCre provides, but this raises the question, do any kit makers provide plans and parts for realistic ships' boats to go with the ship in the kit?   

Allan 

As far as i know, no. you could probably find some plans online and scratch built them but nothing official. Honestly what occre provides isnt too bad its quality, just hard to build especially at such a small scale. I do hope the hobby reaches more people and inspires them to make their own improvement kits for stuff like this but I guess I got to use the hand I have been given for now.

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1 hour ago, Clementine said:

just hard to build especially at such a small scale

Thanks for your response Clementine, it is very much appreciated.  I respectfully disagree though with your statement.   The boats in question and in most kits are totally out of scale from the frames to the width of the planks.  There are very detailed contemporary plans in high resolution of several dozen boats on the Wiki Commons site and hundreds more in low res on the RMG site.  There are detailed scantlings for early 18th century boats and early 19th century boats in W.E. Mays book on boats. With all this detailed information it is not difficult to build an accurate rendition of most any type of ship's boat, even with hand tools.  Couple photos of a long boat at 1:64 circa 1700 that was made with materials mostly from my scrap bin.  I know it is hard to see, but the coin is a US penny.

Allan

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PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series.   Click on http://trafalgar.tv   There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time.  THANK YOU

 

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7 hours ago, allanyed said:

I realize this is absolutely not your doing and you are pretty much stuck with what OcCre provides, but this raises the question, do any kit makers provide plans and parts for realistic ships' boats to go with the ship in the kit?   

Allan 

I built the 95mm boat from Master Korabel (https://www.agesofsail.com/ecommerce/new-master-korbel/ship's-boats.html) as an add on to my Pegasus. It's a very nice kit - each plank is pre-shaped laser cut from very thin ply so they fit together nicely. There's a three part review someone did here:

https://shipmodeler.wordpress.com/2021/06/02/building-a-master-korabel-ships-boat-kit/

https://shipmodeler.wordpress.com/2021/07/05/building-a-master-korabel-ships-boat-kit-part-2/

https://shipmodeler.wordpress.com/2021/08/16/building-a-master-korabel-ships-boat-kit-final/

 

I also see Vanguard Models recently bought out a whole range of boats at 1/64th https://www.agesofsail.com/ecommerce/new-vanguard-models/ship's-boat-kits.html. Looking at the pdf instructions it looks like, unlike the MK boats, the planks must be hand tapered.

Complete:

OcCre HMS Beagle 1:60

Amati Victory Models HMS Pegasus 1:64

 

In Progress:

Amati Victory Models HMS Vanguard 1:72

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5 hours ago, Techtonic said:

There's a three part review someone did here:

The Vanguard models are far better than the others but look to be limited in scope with only eight sizes from what looks to be one era, and in one scale, 1:64.  Maybe I am missing something.  My thoughts were to have information to be able to build at least 25 or more different types/sizes of boats at any scale. Obviously scratch builds rather than kits, but with a minimum of materials and tools needed thus  suited for both kit and scratch builders.

Allan

 

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HI, Clementine. So inspired by your log! My Occre Beagle arrives tomorrow and I've been spending the past two weeks studying the plethora of Beagle logs here at MSW while waiting.

 

I can only hope mine comes out looking as good as yours!

 

I'll definitely be keeping an eye on your log as you progress.

First build: US Ranger - Corel

 

Second build: HMS Beagle - OcCre

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22 hours ago, Capella said:

HI, Clementine. So inspired by your log! My Occre Beagle arrives tomorrow and I've been spending the past two weeks studying the plethora of Beagle logs here at MSW while waiting.

 

I can only hope mine comes out looking as good as yours!

 

I'll definitely be keeping an eye on your log as you progress.

Thank you!! I wish you the best of luck on your beagle, ive stopped work on mine for now because of real life stuff, hoping to start it back up sometime soon. hopefully my log will come in useful for you because the instructions dont explain a ton lol.

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