Clementine Posted June 7, 2022 Author Share #91 Posted June 7, 2022 Rubbing strakes and dead eyes, thought i should make an update on these as the instructions are not very clear. the tutorial on youtube says to cut about 4cm but after a while i figured out a more efficient way. i cut slightly above 3cm and under 3.5cm, this way i could get 3 deadeyes done from 1 piece of copper wire. Dave_E, The Gimps Chimp, Mr Whippy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 8, 2022 Author Share #92 Posted June 8, 2022 Not the straightest deadeyes, but it will do Dave_E, GrandpaPhil and maddog33 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_E Posted June 8, 2022 Share #93 Posted June 8, 2022 (edited) If your talking about the deadeyes themselves, they will be ok if you can turn them. Edited June 8, 2022 by Dave_E LCdr Dave and Clementine 2 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 9, 2022 Author Share #94 Posted June 9, 2022 all the deadeyes are done, and have started work on the deck details. Cathead, GrandpaPhil, Mr Whippy and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share #95 Posted June 10, 2022 another update, ships wheel is done! and yes it does turn. also added ladders to the poop deck. Fernando E, The Gimps Chimp, Cathead and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Mr Bean Posted June 10, 2022 Share #96 Posted June 10, 2022 It would be nice to put small handles on the doors. 🙂 Dave_E, Clementine and SUBaron 3 Quote Friendly, health and peace for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted June 10, 2022 Share #97 Posted June 10, 2022 Nice progress! An easy way to ensure some extra accuracy would be to rotate all the deadeyes so the triangle of holes faces down; the single hole should be at the bottom with the two holes lined up evenly at the top. This should be mirrored when you add the upper set; two holes facing down and the single hole facing up. SUBaron, Clementine, The Gimps Chimp and 1 other 4 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 12, 2022 Author Share #98 Posted June 12, 2022 Some new updates, did some more work on deck details. also thank you for the comments on the deadeyes, i will be sure to rotate them when the time comes to do the ratlines Mr Whippy, Dave_E, Cathead and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 12, 2022 Author Share #99 Posted June 12, 2022 another update on the aft deck details Fernando E, ccoyle, The Gimps Chimp and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted June 13, 2022 Share #100 Posted June 13, 2022 Hi Clementine What are the white cylinders in the pic below? I thought maybe hammocks but there are about 100 of them on each side and the crew was only 65 plus they are about the same size of the belaying pins. There is something similar in the drawing from Darwin's Journal (1890 edition), but there are only about 25 on each side, so maybe hammocks in the drawing? Just curious to see what these represent. Thank you. Allan Clementine and Dave_E 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share #101 Posted June 13, 2022 2 hours ago, allanyed said: Hi Clementine What are the white cylinders in the pic below? I thought maybe hammocks but there are about 100 of them on each side and the crew was only 65 plus they are about the same size of the belaying pins. There is something similar in the drawing from Darwin's Journal (1890 edition), but there are only about 25 on each side, so maybe hammocks in the drawing? Just curious to see what these represent. Thank you. Allan Hi allan, in all honesty i have no idea what they are for or if they were even on the original ship. i also cant find anything visible on her sister ship HMS Kangaroo, but that might be because of the angle and age. i just thought they were purely cosmetic or made it easier to stand on in rough seas, seen as the ship was going around cape horn. who knows might be info lost to time. Clem Dave_E, GrandpaPhil and Mr Whippy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk1313 Posted June 13, 2022 Share #102 Posted June 13, 2022 I believe each crew member had 2 hammocks if I remember correctly. - Hal Dave_E and Clementine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted June 13, 2022 Share #103 Posted June 13, 2022 Thanks Clementine. Are these supplied with the kit? If so, does the kit give these items a name? Hal, you bring up a good point on the number of hammocks as two hammocks were issued to the crew members starting in 1804. Consideration should also be taken regarding which watch system was used as the three watch became the fashion in the 19th century. If 1/3 of the crew was sleeping at a given time there would be about 100 hammocks not in use, but the model shows 200. If you compare contemporary drawings and paintings, including the one above and the one at https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-113120 at RMG, there is a vast difference with those from the kit. I go with the contemporary information based on the fact that the belaying pins in the kit are triple or quadruple the diameter they should be and the hammocks (if that is what they are supposed to be) much too small. Allan Clementine and Dave_E 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gimps Chimp Posted June 13, 2022 Share #104 Posted June 13, 2022 Hi Allan, There is nothing in the kit which identifies these items as hammocks. However, in the AotS for the Beagle the space which these items sit is marked as the 'Hammock rail'. Regarding relative size of components I think you are spot on. Again, looking at the AotS for the Beagle we have the following: Regarding the number of hammocks detailed in the kit, in relation to the size of the crew, I wouldn't want to comment. I think there's a lot of 'artistic licence' applied in the design of these kits. Regards Chimp allanyed, Clementine, Mr Whippy and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: .... Previous Builds: HMS Beagle - OcCre, HM Schooner Ballahoo - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted June 13, 2022 Share #105 Posted June 13, 2022 Chimp, I agree that "artistic license" is a good term, albeit much too kind in some cases. Thanks for posting the drawing. Like you I would trust the research done by Marquardt in the AOTS book before the kit. Allan The Gimps Chimp, Clementine and Dave_E 3 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share #106 Posted June 13, 2022 carronade & forecastle is done. now to work on the well deck Fernando E, Mr Whippy, ccoyle and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCdr Dave Posted June 14, 2022 Share #107 Posted June 14, 2022 Coming along nicely. You do fine work! Dave Mr Whippy, Dave_E and Clementine 3 Quote LCdr Dave Current Build: Mayflower - Billing Boats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 14, 2022 Author Share #108 Posted June 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, LCdr Dave said: Coming along nicely. You do fine work! Dave Thank you Dave! Dave_E and Mr Whippy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share #109 Posted June 15, 2022 capstan is almost done, i did make it so it is turn-able but i believe the stairs going up to the forecastle will block it so it will have very little movement Mr Whippy, GrandpaPhil, The Gimps Chimp and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share #110 Posted June 15, 2022 and capstan done, as expected it doesnt have much movement, but i feel its worth it. The Gimps Chimp, Fernando E, Mr Whippy and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share #111 Posted June 17, 2022 first hatch is done Cathead, Prowler901, Dave_E and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share #112 Posted June 18, 2022 this little winch is done along side another hatch, not really that happy with how the winch turned out, the belaying pins are too close to it which also made it hard to put on. but oh well hopefully it wont be a big issue later on. Dave_E, Mr Whippy, Prowler901 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share #113 Posted June 19, 2022 another update on some deck details, working on the cannons now. ccoyle, Mr Whippy, The Gimps Chimp and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share #114 Posted June 20, 2022 Brass cannons. will say occre copper paint looks good when painted on the cast pieces Dave_E, ccoyle and Cathead 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share #115 Posted June 20, 2022 Cannons are finished looking pretty good. Cathead, Dave_E, The Gimps Chimp and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gimps Chimp Posted June 21, 2022 Share #116 Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, E Z Breeze said: I’m about to start my Beagle and just read through your thread from start to finish, picking up lots of very useful information. Thanks for that! Your build looks lovely. You’re setting the bar very high here. If I get close to your standard I’ll be very pleased. Hi E Z Breeze, Will you be starting a build log? I've found it useful getting feedback about my build from more experienced builders, and it's useful for others who are starting their builds - as it sounds you have found. I would recommend starting one. Don't worry about putting your work 'out there' for others to see. We're a friendly bunch and we all started somewhere . It's a great learning experience. Chimp Jack-in-the-Blue, Mr Whippy, SUBaron and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: .... Previous Builds: HMS Beagle - OcCre, HM Schooner Ballahoo - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted June 21, 2022 Share #117 Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) EZ, I hope Clementine, who has done an admirable job on his build, would agree that you should not be afraid to research each part before you put it in place. Some kit makers do not appear to spend much time on research before putting out a kit, or, if they do, they ignore it, but fortunately many of their mistakes can be fixed as you move along on the build. Allan Edited June 21, 2022 by allanyed The Gimps Chimp, Dave_E, Jack-in-the-Blue and 2 others 4 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share #118 Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, E Z Breeze said: I’m about to start my Beagle and just read through your thread from start to finish, picking up lots of very useful information. Thanks for that! Your build looks lovely. You’re setting the bar very high here. If I get close to your standard I’ll be very pleased. Hi E Z Breeze, i wish you the best of luck on your build, im sure you will be 100% satisfied with this model, sure is a beauty in real life! ill be looking at your build log when you post it so if you need any advice specific to this kit just drop a post on there and i will be more than happy to help. your previous model looks fantastic so im sure you wont have a problem with this one. and i agree with allan, research is 100% key on these historical kits, occre does get a lot wrong when it comes to accuracy and not many of them are super minor issues, but its still a great kit none the less. cant wait to see your build log! Clementine Edited June 21, 2022 by Clementine Jack-in-the-Blue, Mr Whippy, The Gimps Chimp and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted June 21, 2022 Share #119 Posted June 21, 2022 4 hours ago, E Z Breeze said: It's astonishing, isn't it? I used to get annoyed when kits came with flaws, and to be honest I still do at times when I'm feeling grouchy. However, I guess I'll forgive the manufacturers given that they are in business primarily to make money rather than to foster historical studies and the great thing is that their lapses give us so much scope to make our own changes, based on our own research which ends up fostering historical studies anyway You are absolutely correct EZ, but unfortunately, many kit builders are not very experienced thus a little naïve as would be expected, so they do not know that many kits are loaded with mistakes. For some, the research is as much fun and definitely as satisfying when there is the VOILA moment that you find a mistake and know you can fix it! There are a couple kit makers that do a much more credible job of it and they too are in business to make a profit, so it can be done. All anyone has to do is look how many kits are in the various build logs and which manufacturers continue to gain more customers and which are not thanks to the former having high quality products. Allan Cathead, The Gimps Chimp, Dave_E and 1 other 4 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share #120 Posted June 21, 2022 Cannons are in place, again not perfect but looks good. The Gimps Chimp, Cathead and Mr Whippy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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