Clementine Posted April 12, 2022 Share #1 Posted April 12, 2022 This is a build log for my 2nd model ship (my first being the Occre Golden Hind which i finished recently) and i hope to finish it in succession similar to my first. I have had a LOT of fun with this hobby and am hoping to keep it up, hope you all enjoy this build log as much as i will enjoy the build. side notes, i am keeping it as faithful to the instructions as i possibly can, maybe making a few minor changes to the model because i didnt like how Occre did it but feel free to leave suggestions or criticisms as much as you like because they are all welcome. Dave_E, Cathead, ccoyle and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share #2 Posted April 12, 2022 as expected from occre the wood quality is great and the instructions are incredibly simple and easy to follow. only ran into an issue with one of the frames which had a knot and was weaker than the others but not weak enough to scrap and replace. everything fits together nicely and i am enjoying putting it together. Gregory, Snug Harbor Johnny, maddog33 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share #3 Posted April 13, 2022 Decided to try out my own way of planking the main deck, had some issues with planks bending but after a while of waiting they went down on their own. time for varnish and fitting it in Cathead and Dave_E 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share #4 Posted April 13, 2022 added the main deck to the frame, turns out i planked the wrong side of the main deck so theres going to be a few minor changes Cathead and Dave_E 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted April 13, 2022 Share #5 Posted April 13, 2022 Nice start! Clementine 1 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share #6 Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) did some work on the forecastle and the poop deck, varnished all the decks and now onto the bulwarks Edited April 14, 2022 by Clementine Cathead, mikegr and Dave_E 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 15, 2022 Author Share #7 Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) bulwarks bent and added onto the ship. hopefully they are stuck down well enough, i dont want them popping off after all the effort it took me to put these in place. Edited April 15, 2022 by Clementine Cathead and Dave_E 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 15, 2022 Author Share #8 Posted April 15, 2022 small update, added the inner lining for the bularks and onto the planking next Cathead and Dave_E 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 16, 2022 Author Share #9 Posted April 16, 2022 hull sanded down and some planking progress, going to move onto planking the bulwarks wish me luck Cathead, Dave_E and mikegr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted April 17, 2022 Share #10 Posted April 17, 2022 Planking's always a challenging part but also potentially really rewarding. Good luck! Clementine and Dave_E 2 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 17, 2022 Author Share #11 Posted April 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Cathead said: Planking's always a challenging part but also potentially really rewarding. Good luck! thank you! im trying to do it with no nail holes this time unless necessary and it seems to be going well! Dave_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted April 18, 2022 bulwarks planked up, had some issues with the wood quality in the kit, some of the planks had some knots so having to pick what planks i use very wisely. im moving onto the hull today. Dave_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted April 18, 2022 Share #13 Posted April 18, 2022 Looking good! For future builds, keep in mind that all of the decks have round up, they do not lay flat. It may be the photos but the decks look to be flat. Check out the build log of the Endeavour by KJackson. modelshipworld.com/topic/31858-hm-bark-endeavour-by-kjackson-occre-154/#comment-902995 where this has been discussed in detail in the last day or so. It appears there are at least a couple kits that forgot to take into account round up/camber which would be found on virtually all ships. Your first layer of hull planking looks to be going well. Will you be tapering the strakes and spiling or hot edge bending? If you have not already studied them, there are excellent tutorials here at MSW teaching proper planking techniques. Allan Clementine and Dave_E 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share #14 Posted April 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, allanyed said: Looking good! For future builds, keep in mind that all of the decks have round up, they do not lay flat. It may be the photos but the decks look to be flat. Check out the build log of the Endeavour by KJackson. modelshipworld.com/topic/31858-hm-bark-endeavour-by-kjackson-occre-154/#comment-902995 where this has been discussed in detail in the last day or so. It appears there are at least a couple kits that forgot to take into account round up/camber which would be found on virtually all ships. Your first layer of hull planking looks to be going well. Will you be tapering the strakes and spiling or hot edge bending? If you have not already studied them, there are excellent tutorials here at MSW teaching proper planking techniques. Allan Hi allan, thank you for the tip ill be sure to take it into account on my next model. does seem to be an issue with occre kits in general but im sure its an easy fix and do you know of any good tutorial links on the site? im interested in different planking techniques as i dont really go into planking with a plan lol Dave_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted April 18, 2022 Share #15 Posted April 18, 2022 The tutorial for spiling by David Antscherl is in the Articles data base under framing and planking as is the lining off article by Chuck Passaro. https://thenrg.org/resource/articles Note that in the first picture in Chuck's article he is very clear to avoid this unrealistic planking style. All the strakes need to end at the rabbet unless there is one or perhaps two drop strakes. If your model is double planked you have the first layer as a great learning practice before going to the second layer. Allan Cathead and Dave_E 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share #16 Posted April 22, 2022 been on a short break because of a lack of motivation but im back now, made a ton of progress on planking today on the starboard side. ccoyle, Cathead and Dave_E 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share #17 Posted April 24, 2022 5 hours ago, E Z Breeze said: This is the model that I have decided to build as my second ship. I'll follow your work with interest. You are doing your first planking in a style unfamiliar to me, something I may well follow because my method is causing me a few anxious moments on my first build! Those Occre planks look quite thick, can you tell me the dimensions please? Thank you! and funny enough this model kit is also my second ship! this planking style is usually just a mix of the Occre plans and whatever comes to mind for me, the occre plans can only get you so far but i think the way i do it is sufficient for a nice rounded surface. and the lumber is 3mm x 5mm x 60cm but some of the planks can be a bit wider/ slimmer than most which kind of sucks but i usually just skip out on using those planks and use them for fillers Dave_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share #18 Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, E Z Breeze said: Yes I saw that. It encouraged me to go for this one despite some slight worries that it's a big step up from a herring drifter! It's nice that they give you plans at all. 3mm thick seems enormous to me but you have plenty of material for sanding so I guess there are advantages. yeah they may seem pretty thick but i find they are best for this size of model, and as you said, plenty of material for sanding so you can make it the shape you want Dave_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share #19 Posted April 25, 2022 4 hours ago, E Z Breeze said: I just checked the price of the kit and was pleasantly surprised. For that kind of money, I see nothing to complain about - so I've ordered one! awesome! its a great kit for the price. i hope you enjoy the kit! Dave_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share #20 Posted April 25, 2022 some more starboard planking, just filling the holes with planks then ill move onto the port side Dave_E and mikegr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 26, 2022 Author Share #21 Posted April 26, 2022 5 hours ago, E Z Breeze said: Your gluing looks very tidy. I struggle to keep it all as clean as yours. I wonder, are you using CA? Edit: My kit having arrived, I see that no glue is used at this stage. Now I understand! ive actually been using wood glue with a mix of using ca glue at parts i cant hold down with nails or gravity. then i clean it up with cotton buds or paper towels. i cant wait to see your progress on the ship! its interesting to see the different ways people make these. Dave_E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikegr Posted April 27, 2022 Share #22 Posted April 27, 2022 (edited) There is a step by step guide by an expert friend on you tube on this popular model Edited April 27, 2022 by mikegr Jack-in-the-Blue and DonSangria 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share #23 Posted April 27, 2022 8 hours ago, mikegr said: There is a step by step guide by an expert friend on you tube on this popular model Thank you! but funny enough ive actually been using johns guide as a pointer in the right direction for a while! hes got plenty of tips and tricks for this ship. mikegr and Dave_E 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted April 28, 2022 Author Share #24 Posted April 28, 2022 starboard side is closed up, think i did a pretty good job. will hopefully be starting the port side today or tomorrow Dave_E, Cathead and The Gimps Chimp 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share #25 Posted May 11, 2022 been a bit since my last update because i have been doing stuff in my personal life, but first layer of planking is done. now onto sanding and using some putty to fill holes. Cathead, DonSangria, The Gimps Chimp and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_E Posted May 11, 2022 Share #26 Posted May 11, 2022 My chair is pulled up. So much learning takes place watching others build and see their techniques. 👍😀 Clementine and The Gimps Chimp 1 1 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share #27 Posted May 11, 2022 another update for today, sanded the hull down and added some wood putty to fill in some of the holes and correct some of my mistakes. feels pretty smooth so i think ill move onto the 2nd layer of planking Seventynet, The Gimps Chimp, Cathead and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight Posted May 12, 2022 Share #28 Posted May 12, 2022 Hello Clementine, Your build is looking good. I also found your method of doing the first planking to be rather interesting. It seems like you got a nice result though and that's all that matters. Fast progress too! It took me about a year to do two planking layers on my own build... Wishing you continued success with your model, starlight The Gimps Chimp, Dave_E and Clementine 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clementine Posted May 12, 2022 Author Share #29 Posted May 12, 2022 2 hours ago, starlight said: Hello Clementine, Your build is looking good. I also found your method of doing the first planking to be rather interesting. It seems like you got a nice result though and that's all that matters. Fast progress too! It took me about a year to do two planking layers on my own build... Wishing you continued success with your model, starlight Thank you for the nice comment! i appreciate all the support you guys are giving me its giving me so much motivation! Dave_E and The Gimps Chimp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gimps Chimp Posted May 12, 2022 Share #30 Posted May 12, 2022 Hi Clementine, Your model is progressing nicely. The second planking is very thin and will follow every contour of the first layer. It may be worth using a little more filler to get that really smooth finish. Chimp Clementine, Cathead and Dave_E 3 Quote Current Build: .... Previous Builds: HMS Beagle - OcCre, HM Schooner Ballahoo - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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