Alex-Ks1 Posted January 26, 2023 Share #1 Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) I have tried Ad nauseam to post in the scratch-built area. It won't let me so I will do it here, untill a moderator can move it to the right area. or remove it all together. I am building the US Brig Niagra , from scratch, This isn't your daddy's bathtub floater, it will end up being about 8 ft in total length. most everything I will have to make by hand, but I have a full machine shop to make the Iron work . and a 3D printer to do other tasks.. This is the first sheet of plans , laid out on my 10 ft long work table Edited February 3, 2023 by Alex-Ks1 bruce d, JohnLea, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted January 27, 2023 Share #2 Posted January 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, Alex-Ks1 said: untill a moderator can move it to the right area Not sure what the issue could have been, but I have moved it for you. Good luck on your project! mtaylor and thibaultron 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share #3 Posted January 27, 2023 Thanks, I dont know what the problem is . so how do I add to this build, same way?. and I dont know how the photo got turned upside down . its Ok in my photo area. mtaylor and thibaultron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted January 27, 2023 Share #4 Posted January 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alex-Ks1 said: so how do I add to this build, same way? Just add updates as replies. thibaultron and mtaylor 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted January 27, 2023 I had the plans blown up 350 %. I will have to buy 5/8-inch-thick plywood and 1/4 inch 4X8 ft sheets. The lumber yard didnt have marine plywood, this is Kansas . After the hull is made I put heavy epoxy paint inside the hull covering everything and lead weights for ballast, all my builds are watertight and will float. More to come with photos . bruce d and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share #6 Posted January 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, ccoyle said: Just add updates as replies. roger that.... mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted January 27, 2023 Share #7 Posted January 27, 2023 8 feet long?! Wow! This will be amazing! I can’t wait to see your progress. mtaylor 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Winchelsea 1:48 (Group Project) Completed Builds: Virginia 1819 Artesania Latina - 1:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share #8 Posted January 27, 2023 I got my plywood 5/8 inch thick, and did plotting of the shape of hull center and keel . Its a rough cut now, the fine cuts will be tomorrow, and I bought a new ply wood blade for my 7,1/4 inch circular saw , naturally from ACE hardware its from china. no curff on the teeth, and in one pass it burnt up, it got red hot. I guess you get what you pay for . you can get an idea of the size by my saw on the table, GrandpaPhil, Prowler901, BobG and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share #9 Posted January 28, 2023 at this point I have the center section cut. and the keel and stem and sternpost. The plywood was so bad its causing me real grief, there are voids and loose layers, so I have to force glue in the layers and clap it down, the keel broke because of a rotten knot that was hiding under the first and last layer of ply. I will make a piece to fit in, I put the rabbit cut in the bottom with a air disk grinder, and 40 grit disks, it took about 30 seconds on each side. CiscoH, Prowler901, BobG and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snug Harbor Johnny Posted January 28, 2023 Share #10 Posted January 28, 2023 Now THAT'S going to be a model ... mtaylor 1 Quote Completed builds: Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted January 28, 2023 Share #11 Posted January 28, 2023 I would suggest adding the scale to the title. What scale is it? mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted January 28, 2023 Share #12 Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) Hello Alex. I am not aware of your location but if it will be of any help I have some photos of the Brig Niagara. I was on the replica for a day cruise and banged my head quite a few times when down below. She was quite shallow because of the sand bar entering or exiting the bay in which she was built. Even at that they had to remove the guns to lighten her up more to clear and the British were there waiting but didn't realize she had no guns so didn't attack. You might want to correct the spelling of the ship's name in the title... you're missing a letter. Edited January 28, 2023 by AON mtaylor 1 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted January 29, 2023 Author Share #13 Posted January 29, 2023 8 hours ago, Roger Pellett said: I would suggest adding the scale to the title. What scale is it? I figure it to be about 1:7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted January 31, 2023 Author Share #14 Posted January 31, 2023 At this point I went back to the lumber yard for another sheet of plywood, there just as bad as the one I bought. So I have to use what I have. I have the keep on and clapmed in place and I made a 3 ft long clamp to hold the hull upright when working on it, and it keeps the wood str8 . it wont warp this way. GrandpaPhil, Prowler901, AON and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share #15 Posted February 2, 2023 I started cutting the frames. they are only free forms now, after all are done i will sand and fit for correct fitment . Im running out of plywood, but will have just enough for all the frames . lots of saw dust and scrap pieces Prowler901, mtaylor and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share #16 Posted February 2, 2023 I placed the cut out frame plans on the plywood in a up and down pattern to see if they all fit, they do . So one 4X8 X 5/8 in , ft of ply wood made the hull frame work , mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted February 2, 2023 Author Share #17 Posted February 2, 2023 Could one of the " in charge " people please put the correct spelling n the topic heading , I can't seem to figure out how . Thanks mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted February 2, 2023 Share #18 Posted February 2, 2023 Go to your very first post and pick the three dots at the top right. That will open a menu. Pick edit. You will see the title displayed and you can edit it. Pick save. mtaylor 1 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share #19 Posted February 3, 2023 Think I got it , thanks AON and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share #20 Posted February 3, 2023 this shows the frames in place, now the fun begins with lots of sanding, I didnt pop these out of a laser cut board . I had to transfer the plan of thr frame to the plywood, cut out the free form of the frame, now each one will be sanded to exact fit. AON, GrandpaPhil, Prowler901 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted February 7, 2023 Author Share #21 Posted February 7, 2023 Now that all the frames have a bevel for planking on the front and rear I started on the stern , as you can see its a crowed photo but i have 2 right angles on each side crossed clamped . This way they are forced to be straight and at right angels to the center. the Metal square shows this. The frames still need a lot of detail work before planking .... Air tools work wonders Prowler901, mtaylor, CiscoH and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted February 9, 2023 Author Share #22 Posted February 9, 2023 I havent been doing to much on my build lately. even tryping is getting bad, my vision is on the way down on my right eye. Ill explain , The left eye sees very well, color is good and focus is OK, I wear tri focals. The left eye is very blurry. New glasses wont help. so I see a view on one side its good, move to the right its very blurry and fuzzy. I may have to give it up, the eye strain is getting worse. If any one wants it you can have it all the plans too . Im just having to hard a time doing it. VTHokiEE, ccoyle and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted February 9, 2023 Share #23 Posted February 9, 2023 Have you seen an eye doctor? I get an injection in my left eye every 9 weeks for going on 5 years now for one problem, and just had cataract surgery in both eyes last year. If it weren't for my regular eye checkups I'd be blind permanently in the left eye and going ( but reversible) blind in the right by now. As it is I now have 20/20 vision in both eyes except for a tiny spot just off centre at about 7:00 that is white if reading type (books) when I am tired, otherwise the other eye fills in the blank. mtaylor 1 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted February 10, 2023 Author Share #24 Posted February 10, 2023 yes , yes and yes, I have retina damage, its not reversable. and its just getting worse . Its like the right eye has a fuzzy cloudy center of vision coxswain, mtaylor, Montaigne and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted February 10, 2023 Share #25 Posted February 10, 2023 That is terrible news. Dumb question- if you wear a patch over the bad eye will the eye strain (headache) disappear? I know for me the brain does wonders melding the images from both eyes. Possibly that is your next battle, removing the one blurry image from what the brain has to deal with. Of course I am no doctor so this might be something to discuss with yours. mtaylor 1 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share #26 Posted February 21, 2023 I have been trying a eye patch , Harrrr. its a bother also, so I just try and do what I can. AON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AON Posted February 21, 2023 Share #27 Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) Crap! I thought that might help. Don't tell my wife I was wrong... she's keeping score. Edited February 21, 2023 by AON mtaylor 1 Quote Alan O'Neill "only dead fish go with the flow" Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014) Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021) Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share #28 Posted February 21, 2023 Now im at the bow gluing the first frame in place. the 2 steele right angle pieces clamped cross ways keeps the frame and center in alignment . This will be done on each frame . Im still working on the stern area, its a pain in the butt. the plans are not clear on much, so I looked at a model being done here from a kit, that helped a lot, took photos to my phone to use at my shop. AON, GrandpaPhil, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share #29 Posted February 21, 2023 Once all the frames are set in place then a lot of detail sanding will in the works . I have blocks of lead to cut for thr bottom of the hull All the ones I do are water tight and will float . Its a ship. a dust collector but it should be in the water too mtaylor and AON 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex-Ks1 Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share #30 Posted March 25, 2023 well what I didnt want to happen did, I had to stop and put this build in moth balls I cant go on, my health is getting worse . so I may not be posting any more, maybe ? who knows mtaylor, thibaultron and bruce d 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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