John Ruy Posted January 29, 2023 #1 Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) I’m building The Italian Yacht Corsaro II from a Corel kit and have been researching actual photos of the 1960 Yacht in an effort to make its appearance as accurate as possible. My question is regarding the Ventilation of this Yacht. I have photos of The Corsaro II both in harbor and racing at sea. I don’t particularly care for the appearance of the cowl ventilators that are provided with the kit and I would like to clean my model up a bit by capping the ventilators. It appears from the photos of the yacht in races that this would be a valid configuration. I would like your collective opinions… Would capping the ventilators would be appropriate? I have not seen this model displayed this way and think it would be a way of making it more unique. Your thoughts please… Thanks Edited January 29, 2023 by John Ruy mtaylor 1 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat
TBlack Posted January 29, 2023 #2 Posted January 29, 2023 It looks like they cap them when underway, so no obstructions. Therefore, how will the model be displayed; underway or stationary? Tom mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote
Jim Lad Posted January 30, 2023 #3 Posted January 30, 2023 I must say that I'm personally a great fan of cowl ventilators, but I can see how they hardly add to the impression of a sleek and fast yacht. If she raced with the vent trunks capped, then that's a valid way of presenting the model, however as Tom suggests, if you want to be truly accurate, you will have to display her racing if the vents are capped. John mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote
John Ruy Posted January 30, 2023 Author #4 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) Agreed… I would like to display her with ventilators as a static display, as I don’t think I can depict her under sail given the size/scale of the sails. However, as you can see the ventilators supplied don’t accurately represent the ventilators as seen in the first photo above. Perhaps another source for accurately scaled ventilators would be a solution. Edited January 30, 2023 by John Ruy Keith Black, mtaylor and Jim Lad 3 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat
TBlack Posted January 30, 2023 #5 Posted January 30, 2023 Yes, the cowls and trunks are too small on the model. Away with them! Besides in reality, there are 2 small ones up front, not one in the middle. Otherwise, you've got a beautiful looking model. TB Keith Black, allanyed and John Ruy 2 1 Quote
John Ruy Posted January 30, 2023 Author #6 Posted January 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, TBlack said: Besides in reality, there are 2 small ones up front, not one in the middle. Exactly… That small deckhouse doesn’t seem right either. I am having a hard time reconciling this kit. Needs more research… mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat
mtaylor Posted January 30, 2023 #7 Posted January 30, 2023 It looks to me like they're too tall and and too thin (the kit ones). Hopefully there's something in the after market that would work. As for the foremost one.... It needs to go. As for the deckhouse... the photo shows one that seems flat and low. You might be able to modify the existing one. Keith Black and John Ruy 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
allanyed Posted January 30, 2023 #8 Posted January 30, 2023 If she is racing the cowls would likely be turned away from the wind to take advantage of the more aerodynamic shape than have the scoop, capped or not, facing the wind. This is just a guess based on VERY limited racing experience so hopefully other members with some racing experience can clarify. Allan mtaylor 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
John Ruy Posted January 30, 2023 Author #9 Posted January 30, 2023 I found this video on an Italian Site. The ventilators are definitely stowed while they are underway. Makes sense… https://www.nauticareport.it/dettnews/barche_e_navi_depoca/corsaro_ii_1961-4808-6020/ Very interesting video to watch the crew working the sails. allanyed and mtaylor 2 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat
TBlack Posted January 30, 2023 #10 Posted January 30, 2023 3 hours ago, John Ruy said: Very interesting video to watch the crew working the sails. Yes and you gotta be in shape to do it! Tom John Ruy and mtaylor 2 Quote
John Ruy Posted January 30, 2023 Author #11 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, TBlack said: Yes and you gotta be in shape to do it! Tom Yep… Young Buck recruits in the Italian Navy, playing tug of war with the wind. Edited January 30, 2023 by John Ruy mtaylor 1 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat
John Ruy Posted January 30, 2023 Author #12 Posted January 30, 2023 I want to thank you all, this has been a helpful discussion and has led me to a couple of confirmations and decisions. 1. The parts supplied by Corel have got to go. (Just wrong 😑) 2. I will eliminate the forward center ventilator and shorten that forward hatch. 3. I have ordered some Cowl vents to replace the Corel parts. 5/8” Cowl opening and an inch off the deck should be good. We will see… Onwards 🍻 John CPDDET and TBlack 2 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat
Solution John Ruy Posted January 31, 2023 Author Solution #13 Posted January 31, 2023 Update… Ordered Cowl Ventilators from Bluejacket and began building Dorade Boxes. These should look much more appropriate. Here is the Ventilator look I am going for… 4 of 6 Dorade boxes are built… Here is a link to my Build Log. I am always looking for advice, if you are interested in following along please check It out. 😎 Cheers John Snug Harbor Johnny and mtaylor 2 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat
John Ruy Posted February 13, 2023 Author #14 Posted February 13, 2023 mtaylor 1 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat
Roger Pellett Posted February 14, 2023 #15 Posted February 14, 2023 Don’t forget the drain hole in the Dorade box! 😀 John Ruy and mtaylor 2 Quote
John Ruy Posted February 14, 2023 Author #16 Posted February 14, 2023 32 minutes ago, Roger Pellett said: Don’t forget the drain hole in the Dorade box! 😀 They all have scuppers. 😎 Roger Pellett and mtaylor 2 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat
TBlack Posted February 14, 2023 #17 Posted February 14, 2023 John, You got a nice finish on those ventilators; Kudos! Tom mtaylor and John Ruy 1 1 Quote
John Ruy Posted February 14, 2023 Author #18 Posted February 14, 2023 26 minutes ago, TBlack said: John, You got a nice finish on those ventilators; Kudos! Tom Thanks Tom… My new favorite airbrush. mtaylor and Roger Pellett 2 Quote Gallery Photos of My Charles W Morgan Currently working on New Bedford Whale Boat
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