GrandpaPhil Posted January 20 Author #331 Posted January 20 Thank you both very much! Jeff, The green will match the head and the stern. I’ll use the same paint on those as I did the base. Knocklouder and Baker 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 21 Author #332 Posted January 21 I took a lesson-learned from the Sampang I made a couple weeks ago, and got the rest of my pieces that would have been laser-cut photocopied and glued down. I am running with the sizing. regarding assumed thicknesses that I now know to be incorrect, that I have been using up to this point to maintain consistency through the rest of the build. My next build will have correct thicknesses of material. Next time I am going to copy all parts in sufficient numbers before I begin cutting and construction. Knocklouder, ccoyle, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 21 Author #333 Posted January 21 The railings are made and installed: Next up is another round of gap filling, paint touch ups and sealing. And, it is about time to build the stern. The stern and quarter badges are already made. The stern bulwarks for the Admiral’s walk are already made. The frames for the stern windows are made too. The main stern decoration which consists of Elizabeth’s coat of arms still needs carved. Richard44, firdajan, Canute and 6 others 6 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 21 Author #334 Posted January 21 One red dragon blank drying after I glued it together again: This is out of a cedar grilling plank. John Fox III, Thukydides, Richard44 and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
72Nova Posted January 21 #335 Posted January 21 I really love the color scheme, she's coming to life. Michael D. Ian_Grant, GrandpaPhil, mtaylor and 1 other 3 1 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/
GrandpaPhil Posted January 22 Author #336 Posted January 22 (edited) Thank you very much! Here are the results of several hours of cutting and carving, I’m working on getting them roughed out so I can glue them down to a piece of wood and final carve them: Both pieces are getting broken down into multipiece carvings. The tails and second legs will be each their own carving. They keep breaking so I work on one until it breaks then carve on the other until it dries. Then the center shield piece with the crowns and Elizabeth’s monogram will be broken down into several pieces too. This will be done similarly to my Victory figurehead. I am enjoying this build immensely. I am very excited that I can finally see it taking shape. Edited January 22 by GrandpaPhil Meriadoc Brandybuck, mtaylor, firdajan and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Canute Posted January 22 #337 Posted January 22 Looking very good, Phil. Waiting to see your red dragons completed. GrandpaPhil and mtaylor 1 1 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
GrandpaPhil Posted January 26 Author #338 Posted January 26 (edited) Thank you very much: The Red Dragon of Wales is rough carved out and glued to the carving board. The Gold Lion of England is nearly roughed out, but drying again. Edited January 26 by GrandpaPhil Baker, firdajan, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 26 Author #339 Posted January 26 The main part of the dragon: Knocklouder, John Fox III, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 26 Author #340 Posted January 26 Both the main parts of the lion and the dragon are carved out: They look better in person. You can’t really see the relief portion of the bas reliefs in the picture. firdajan, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 26 Author #341 Posted January 26 (edited) The other leg test fits well: It is out of 1/8” basswood. I am going to buy a few sheets of better wood for carving the carvings on my next build. The cedar seems to be better for detail work, but the cedar that I have is nearly 20 years old and has gotten brittle. I am thinking either cherry or cedar. Now to glue down the leg on a carving board and finish it. Edited January 26 by GrandpaPhil Ian_Grant, mtaylor, John Fox III and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 26 Author #342 Posted January 26 The other leg of the dragon is an acceptable fit: It is time to glue the leg to the carving board and finish it. John Fox III, mtaylor, Baker and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 26 Author #343 Posted January 26 (edited) The hard part is done: Time to make the shield, the crown and the scroll. Then paint everything and assemble it. Edited January 26 by GrandpaPhil firdajan, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 26 Author #344 Posted January 26 (edited) Most of the stern carving is either carved or rough cut. The top and bottom pieces of the shield are soaked in superglue like I learned about from some of the other card modelers. I will carve those in the nearish future. I am not even going to try carving that middle piece. I am going to treat it like a paint by number and very carefully paint it. I also discovered that I broke the back part of the dragon’s tail off and lost it, so I’m making another one out of basswood. Soon, I will be doing a lot of painting. Then I will glue this all to the stern. Edited January 26 by GrandpaPhil John Fox III, DanB, mtaylor and 3 others 4 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 27 Author #345 Posted January 27 The carving is carved: Using superglue to shore up the card so it could be carved worked well. It added a few difficulties but I think that I could figure them out with time. I will use the same technique with the bow scrollwork. The scrollwork, the figurehead and two heads that go on bitts are all the carvings I have remaining for this build. Next up is painting the stern carvings. I’ll probably paint the stern window frames and stern/quarter badges at the same time. About the time that I install the primary stern carving, I will have to do all paint touch ups on the rest of the model and then seal/highlight the model. Baker, John Fox III, firdajan and 2 others 4 1 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 27 Author #346 Posted January 27 And painted: Not perfect, but it will work quite well. firdajan, mtaylor, Knocklouder and 5 others 6 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 27 Author #347 Posted January 27 The stern gallery is glued down! This is the first set of stern carvings that I have ever made for a model. I am sure that I will get much better over time, but for a first attempt, I am happy with these carvings. mtaylor, John Fox III, Glen McGuire and 6 others 8 1 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Baker Posted January 27 #348 Posted January 27 A very nice result 👍 mtaylor, GrandpaPhil, Glen McGuire and 1 other 3 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
GrandpaPhil Posted January 28 Author #349 Posted January 28 (edited) Thank you very much, Patrick! All touch ups are done and the model is sealed: The bitt on the poop deck and the stern boom is in place: Working on the Admiral’s walk bulwark now. Edited January 28 by GrandpaPhil Richard44, Canute, Thukydides and 5 others 8 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 29 Author #350 Posted January 29 (edited) Admiral’s Walk is on and decorated: Here is the ship side-on: I am very happy with how it is turning out. Next up is another round of trimming, touch ups and sealing. Then on to the head! Edited January 29 by GrandpaPhil DanB, Meriadoc Brandybuck, BenD and 11 others 10 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted January 30 Author #351 Posted January 30 Time for another round of parts to include the head timbers. Also cutting out the crosstrees, the supports for the mast tops and some other miscellaneous fittings, while I’m at it. Canute, mtaylor, John Fox III and 6 others 9 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Meriadoc Brandybuck Posted February 1 #352 Posted February 1 You work too fast. Looks great, but I can’t keep up. Meriadoc GrandpaPhil, Glen McGuire, mtaylor and 1 other 3 1 Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted February 2 Author #353 Posted February 2 Meriadoc, Thank you very much! Meriadoc Brandybuck, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted February 2 Author #354 Posted February 2 Still working on the head. Question for everyone: the seats of ease are not marked on the plan set. Would it be safe to assume that the seats of ease in a late 16th century English ship would have been in the usual location on the head grating, on either side of the head? And that each one would have seated two? mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted February 3 Author #355 Posted February 3 The head is taking shape: The head timbers are lot more square and straighter than they look in the pictures. Next up is to cut out the head gratings and the sides of the head. I also need to make the scroll work. I was going to use card, but I want to try making it of wood first. I think it would look better. mtaylor, Canute, Meriadoc Brandybuck and 8 others 11 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Baker Posted February 3 #356 Posted February 3 10 hours ago, GrandpaPhil said: Would it be safe to assume that the seats of ease in a late 16th century English ship would have been in the usual location on the head grating, on either side of the head? For me, yes. 10 hours ago, GrandpaPhil said: And that each one would have seated two? For me, no. Just one on seat on each side. Canute, GrandpaPhil and mtaylor 2 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
Baker Posted February 3 #357 Posted February 3 (edited) Either it's my eyes, or it's an optical illusion of the photo. but something is not in a straight line. Just finished a few gin and tonics. ( could also be the reason 🤣...) Edited February 3 by Baker GrandpaPhil, firdajan, Glen McGuire and 2 others 4 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
GrandpaPhil Posted February 3 Author #358 Posted February 3 (edited) Patrick, Lol! The angle of the camera made the bend look a lot worse than it was. However, there was a slight angle that I straightened out. That’s one downside to card, it needs additional support a lot of the time. Good call! Everything should be fixed in place once I add the gratings. Also, thank you very much for the information on the seats of ease. I try to be thorough with my models. Edited February 3 by GrandpaPhil Glen McGuire, John Fox III, mtaylor and 3 others 5 1 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted February 3 Author #359 Posted February 3 Working on cutting out the head grating: It’s slow going and double layered, but it will look really good when it’s done. mtaylor, Richard44, Baker and 5 others 8 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted February 4 Author #360 Posted February 4 The head grating is between glass and drying now: Time to get the entire head touched up and resealed. For the newer folks, the head is one of the trickier parts of the ship with many fiddly parts that have to be precision made and fitted with a lot of guesswork involved. This is actually one of the first times that I have had a set of head timbers that I didn’t have to make based off measurements from the deck plan and the outboard profile utilizing typical structures from a given time period and nationality. This one has bulwarks instead of head rails which makes this a LOT easier than what I am used to. I will probably completely finish the head, to include the figurehead, before moving on. Javelin, mtaylor, Baker and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
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