chris watton Posted May 22 Share #121 Posted May 22 16 minutes ago, Hubac's Historian said: Michael, is it a fiction of my imagination that the Sovereign had a small step ladder into the lantern, between it and the jackstaff? I remember reading in Pepy’s Diary that for fun they’d bring noble ladies up into the huge lantern so that all could marvel at the sheer size of it. I don’t see any trace of that, really, in the VdV port side drawing, though. I have always wondered if they put the ladder there specifically for that occasion, for the ladies benefit. Old Collingwood, Hubac's Historian and Bill Morrison 3 Quote Vanguard Models on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72Nova Posted May 22 Author Share #122 Posted May 22 Kirill I might add the same diamond grid to the lanterns over the existing color I have now and see what it looks like, but as far as opening up the panes?, probably not, yes the large lantern would be possible without much effort, but the gallery lanterns as molded are solid and would require too much effort so this was a compromise. I still need to add the storied ladder, I bet it would hold 10 people after reading about it. The Vander Velde sketch showing the port side ladder leading to the port entry in intriguing also, I recall seeing only one modeller including this in their build. Michael D. Bill Morrison, Ian_Grant, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72Nova Posted May 23 Author Share #123 Posted May 23 Adding the diamond grid to the lantern really brought it to life!!, Aleene's clear gel tacky glue works very well for this, now on to the smaller lanterns. The ladder is just placed there for reference, but actually looks pretty good minus a landing. Michael D. Old Collingwood, fmodajr, fake johnbull and 8 others 9 2 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted May 23 Share #124 Posted May 23 The way I paint lanterns is to paint the fields of the windows yellow with white centers, to give the illusion that they're illuminated with light from the inside. Awesome job on the lanterns! Old Collingwood, Bill Morrison and Hubac's Historian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72Nova Posted May 23 Author Share #125 Posted May 23 Thanks Michael, I've done somewhat the same in the past using transparent colors and all look good, I was really tempted to do a black background with the gold leafed tulle. Michael D. Old Collingwood 1 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrus Manus Posted May 23 Share #126 Posted May 23 I usually end up painting windows the same color because in my opinion, yellow/white looks more realistic than blue. However, your execution looks great. 72Nova and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubac's Historian Posted May 23 Share #127 Posted May 23 1 hour ago, Ferrus Manus said: The way I paint lanterns is to paint the fields of the windows yellow with white centers, to give the illusion that they're illuminated with light from the inside. Awesome job on the lanterns! That’s an interesting idea. Ferrus Manus and Old Collingwood 2 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubac's Historian Posted May 23 Share #128 Posted May 23 The mesh really adds to the lanterns. 72Nova, Ian_Grant and Old Collingwood 3 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirill4 Posted May 23 Share #129 Posted May 23 Good day, Agree, they looks nice !!! But strange, when read those stories about SOS lanterns - when a few people were able to be accomodated inside??? - for one person may be there is sufficient room, but for more? Old Collingwood 1 Quote Current Build: Spanish Galleon, Lee, 1:100 https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6262-spanish-galleon-1607-by-kirill4-lee-plastic-1100/& https://karopka.ru/forum/forum190/topic10341/ Dutch 16-17 Arts Sailing Vessels in details https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/rijksstudio/1845326--kirill-shabanov/collections/arts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubac's Historian Posted May 23 Share #130 Posted May 23 (edited) Well, I can tell you that the central lantern that Batavia Werf constructed for the Provincien was large enough for a grown man to stand comfortably inside. The Provincien carried five stern lanterns. SOS has one large central lantern. It does not seem implausible to me that maybe three people could be inside there at a time. Edited May 23 by Hubac's Historian Old Collingwood, kirill4 and shipman 3 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72Nova Posted May 26 Author Share #131 Posted May 26 The decorations on the lantern are completed, I added the remaining knees, completed the decorations above the galleries and currently working the Ensign staff. The final figures atop the taffrail will be added much later on. Michael D. Old Collingwood, Hubac's Historian, GrandpaPhil and 10 others 8 5 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72Nova Posted May 27 Author Share #132 Posted May 27 Thank you for likes, they are very much appreciated. I've wrapped up the work on the poop deck, outfitted the Ensign staff with cleats, the truck and final paint, added cleats to the deck and sides for the main braces and mizzen sheet etc. The focus now will be to finish dressing out the bulkhead beakhead, bowsprit and get that assembly installed. Michael D. GrandpaPhil, fmodajr, fake johnbull and 6 others 9 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72Nova Posted May 31 Author Share #133 Posted May 31 While the work continues on the beakhead bulkhead the scale chain arrived I had ordered for the rudder. The preliminary mockup is looking good with the pendant still left to do, the chain will be cut and a ring installed at the midway point to accept the hook of the pendant and the other end will be hooked below the gallery, whether or not chain was used, who knows?, but it looks like it belongs. Michael D. shipman, Ian_Grant, Hubac's Historian and 6 others 7 2 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72Nova Posted June 1 Author Share #134 Posted June 1 I've completed one of the pendants, I tried to replicate how their rigged on the Royal George....I know a much later date, but I do love the detail and complexity of it, Overall, I'm happy with it, the rings could be a bit smaller, but geez their already 1.5mm so I'll just run with it. Thanks for stopping by. Michael D. fake johnbull, fmodajr, Old Collingwood and 6 others 6 3 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubac's Historian Posted June 1 Share #135 Posted June 1 AAAU. All Awesome As Usual. You never disappoint, Michael! BLACK VIKING, 72Nova and Old Collingwood 2 1 Quote We are all works in progress, all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72Nova Posted June 2 Author Share #136 Posted June 2 Dressing out the bowsprit is completed with the addition of the eye bolts for the horses, I will follow Lee's explanation and use two horses. My initial plan was to install the spritsail topmast yard brace blocks on the bowsprit, but they were used later on so I'll follow Paynes plate and run them directly to the range. Currently fabricating new catheads and adding the timberheads to the forecastle rail, still a lot pre fitting left to do before installing it for good, also completed the rudder chains. Michael D. Baker, Jeff T, Hartron and 9 others 10 2 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72Nova Posted June 6 Author Share #137 Posted June 6 With the modifications to the beakhead bulkhead nearing completion, this is the final test fit of the bowsprit, once the eyes for the bowsprit shrouds are fitted and the sprit sail mast rigged, it'll be glued in. Cheers. Michael D. Jeff T, kirill4, fmodajr and 9 others 7 5 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72Nova Posted June 7 Author Share #138 Posted June 7 The rigging has officially commenced, 1st pair of shrouds are on, I used .20mm shroud laid line and 100wt tread for the serving. Scale wise I think looks pretty good. Michael D. Old Collingwood, fmodajr, Ian_Grant and 6 others 7 2 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Morrison Posted Wednesday at 12:25 AM Share #139 Posted Wednesday at 12:25 AM On 5/22/2024 at 8:14 PM, Ferrus Manus said: The way I paint lanterns is to paint the fields of the windows yellow with white centers, to give the illusion that they're illuminated with light from the inside. Awesome job on the lanterns! I have painted the quarter and stern of a small-scale USS Constitution (1/196) by Revell. I first sprayed black, then gave an overcoat of white. Then, I took a small grit sandpaper and lightly sanded, exposing the black framework, scroll work and the name under the transom windows. It really brought out the details! Bill Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72Nova Posted Wednesday at 02:18 AM Author Share #140 Posted Wednesday at 02:18 AM Bill, that is a great tip worth mentioning👍 Michael D. Old Collingwood 1 Quote Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/20561-reale-de-france-by-72nova-finished-heller/ HMS Victory 1765: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrp-3y7ntwH1vwfFsMMf0bWByRebwVKqePmRLqCx3aptq5sMlGZp_LtYv0v-seiQ?key=RWdjbWRKQWs2X1JSaDAyVTRuMHk5U3dOTHJCSDVB Completed: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33007-vasa-by-72nova-airfix-plastic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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