AmateurModelBuilder Posted March 28 Share #1 Posted March 28 So I took advice from you guys and made a build log, so far I managed to build a stand because I still dont have the right tools for the ship, and I really dont want to mess it up. Anyways I dont have a waterline marker yet, so should I start building the keel or plank it first? JacquesCousteau, Ryland Craze and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquesCousteau Posted March 28 Share #2 Posted March 28 Nice job on the stand, I'm looking forward to following along! Do the instructions say to mark the waterline so early on in the build because you'll be using it as a guide to attach a part? As for a waterline marker, if you search the site for "waterline" you'll see a lot of methods that people have set up waterline markers that may inspire you. Quote Kits: Model Shipways Dory (1:24) - Finished NRG Half-Hull Planking Kit (1:48) - In-progress Midwest Maine Peapod (1:14) - In-progress Scratch Builds: Xochimilco Trajinera (1:32) - Finished Lake Chapala Canoa de Rancho (1:32) - In-progress Juana y José Cross Section (1:32) - Finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonSangria Posted March 28 Share #3 Posted March 28 You can mark the waterline without a special waterline marker. Just fix the pencil on the rigth hight for example on a box or sanding block... JacquesCousteau 1 Quote Current build: HMS Sphinx 1:64 (Vanguard Models) Finished: HMS Beagle 1:60 (Occre) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmateurModelBuilder Posted March 28 Author Share #4 Posted March 28 3 minutes ago, JacquesCousteau said: Do the instructions say to mark the waterline so early on in the build because you'll be using it as a guide to attach a part? I ve read the instrunctions, and they dont use the waterline as a guide, but the first page tells me to paint the part below the waterline with varnish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmateurModelBuilder Posted March 29 Author Share #5 Posted March 29 (edited) Just started building the keel today, Ive followed the instructions and cut pieces to the picture, and when I assembled the keel there was this rather large hole on the stern of the ship. I didnt glue the together keel, and I need sugestions on how to fill that hole Edited March 29 by AmateurModelBuilder JacquesCousteau and Thukydides 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Fraser Posted March 29 Share #6 Posted March 29 Got to say, they don't give the best of instructions. I have the Cutty Sark under way and had to use a lot of filler and shaping to get the lines looking anywhere near right. (Stopped for now as life got in the way but will continue soon I hope.) Use the photo of the ship on the box front to see what you may need to do. Looks like a lot of filling and shaping to get the lines in the photo. Quote Bob Current build Cutty Sark, Mini Mamoli Finished King of the Mississippi No trees were harmed by this message, but an awful lot of electrons were put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted March 29 Share #7 Posted March 29 I’m guessing Mamoli is showing a simplified way to put strip wood together, expecting you to match the curved shape of the stern? Do you have a picture of the profile of the boat? Quote Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmateurModelBuilder Posted March 29 Author Share #8 Posted March 29 16 minutes ago, Gregory said: Do you have a picture of the profile of the boat? This is the best I could do, the picture on the box doesnt show the whole keel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted March 29 Share #9 Posted March 29 I need to get to my drawing tools later, and I can show you what I think you need to do.. Bob Fraser 1 Quote Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted March 29 Share #10 Posted March 29 What Mamoli is looking for you to do is trace out a pattern like I have made in red, then use strip wood pieced together like I have indicated in blue, where you would then trace the pattern to give you a shape to fit over the bow and stern without any gaps. You may want to use more pieces than they have shown in the instructions in order to easier make a curve. If this is still a problem for you and I may be able to put together a little demo with some wood. Thukydides, Bob Fraser and JacquesCousteau 3 Quote Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquesCousteau Posted March 30 Share #11 Posted March 30 Good luck with the keel! Is there a reason you made a new build log, though? Quote Kits: Model Shipways Dory (1:24) - Finished NRG Half-Hull Planking Kit (1:48) - In-progress Midwest Maine Peapod (1:14) - In-progress Scratch Builds: Xochimilco Trajinera (1:32) - Finished Lake Chapala Canoa de Rancho (1:32) - In-progress Juana y José Cross Section (1:32) - Finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightyo Posted March 30 Share #12 Posted March 30 Hello, Gregory was exactly right. Below is a photo of my mini-Mamoli Nina. The keel parts are glued into the pre-drilled groove all the way along the keel. Since the keel will be painted below the waterline, it doesn't really matter what pattern of pieces you cobble together down there as long as they are all snug in the groove, and against each other. It also helps to install pieces which stick out too far as well, so the entire keel/stem can be sanded down as one unit after the glue dries. Alan Ryland Craze, JacquesCousteau, Bob Fraser and 3 others 6 Quote Alan's POB Build Log HMS Triton 1/64 Alan's POB Build Log USS Syren 1/64 Alan's Build Log Nina 1/106 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmateurModelBuilder Posted April 2 Author Share #13 Posted April 2 Its been a while since I posted but, I managed to build and sand the keel and plank the deck. As for those holes in the keel I filled them with scrap wood and just sanded it to fit in the groove, it may not look the best but couple coats of primer and paint will hide it. Now im wondering: do I varnish the deck first, and varnish should I use, because there are a lot of components that will be glued on the deck or do I continue building the ship and varnish the deck later? Ryland Craze, JacquesCousteau, VTHokiEE and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted April 2 Share #14 Posted April 2 Looks like you got the keel thing sorted out. Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted April 2 Share #15 Posted April 2 If you use an acrylic sealant to clear coat the deck, PVA glue will stick to it. Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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