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Basic Hull Structure

 

After a three week break Inter-railing through Europe, I can finally start building Harpy.

 

Much has already been said about the contents of the box and the initial build of the basic framework and by far better builders than I. There is nothing for me to add so I will limit my remarks to once more praising the simplicity of this stage of the build thanks to Chris’s innovations, accurate plans and laser cutting. Everything goes together easily without the need to put excess pressure on parts and apart from making the cradle, there is no gluing required until later on in the construction of the basic framework.

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The first three frames bevelled back nearly to the laser-etched marks, leaving a bit still to play with.

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I’ve completed the first stages and am now working on the lower deck. I’m following Maurice’s @Blue Ensign lead here and as with my Speedy, will be planking both fore and aft sections as well as later the gun deck with boxwood. Supplies are on order and expected Monday. Until then there is work to be done on the scuttles and the deck structures.

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The laser etched decks as supplied

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The scuttles cut out of 1mm boxwood sheet and temporarily pinned to the deck

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David

 

Previous Builds

HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74

Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64

HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64

HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64

HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 

18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 

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Current Build

HMS Harpy 1796 - Vanguard Models - 1:64

 

Posted

Hi David, I always enjoy your build logs, so also be tagging along. 

Andrew
Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) 
HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64)

Completed (Kits):-

Vanguard Models (1/64) :HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler

Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars)HM Cutter Sherbourne

Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight

 

Posted

Lower Deck

 

The scuttles are cut from 1mm boxwood using a copy of the deck plan as templates. The centre line is scored and highlighted with pencil.

Ring bolts using 2mm Amati and 3mm rings are yet to be added.

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I added the hatches before planking so some 0.8mm fret was used to maintain their height above the deck.

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I pondered about the stove hearth: should I place it on top of the planking or plank up to it? I was concerned to maintain the distance between the top of the stove and the gun deck. In the end I decided I would glue the hearth to the sub-deck and plank to it. I found a suitable brick pattern courtesy of Mr Google and printed it off. The hearth is finally edged with 1mm square boxwood. I have marked the position of the stove using a copy of the centre section from the plan.

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Planking is mostly 3.5 x 0.7mm boxwood. I was surprised by the variation in colour since all the planking comes from the same supplier. The centre section is planked using my latest order but the wider 4.5 and 5mm planks used along the edges of the hatches and scuttles are from a previous batch. Probably not an authentic look but I quite like the added interest and it will not be so obvious in the completed model.

 

Planking the after deck section was straightforward and the block for the capstan is glued in place.

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The decks easily locate with the frames and the pegs hold them in place.

The sail room is complete but awaits hinges and latches from Syren. There are inner wals of mdf and an outer covering of etched pear. The instructions say that the mdf parts are cut so that they can’t be assembled incorrectly – but I know someone who can. 🙄 Once reassembled, I checked it’s position and that the gun deck beams, cabin walls and stove locate properly.

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Thanks for looking in

David

 

David

 

Previous Builds

HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74

Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64

HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64

HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64

HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 

18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 

HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64


Current Build

HMS Harpy 1796 - Vanguard Models - 1:64

 

Posted

Thanks Maurice that's very kind of you.

 

Yes the wood for the planking is from Original Marquetry (two different orders). The scuttle covers are 1mm sheet from Hobbymill.

 

David 

David

 

Previous Builds

HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74

Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64

HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64

HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64

HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 

18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 

HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64


Current Build

HMS Harpy 1796 - Vanguard Models - 1:64

 

Posted

Completing the Hull Structure

 

The four bow filler pieces are bevelled to the laser etched marks on each piece and glue in place. The final two pieces atop the bow section are also added.

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At the stern there are two pieces to add which slot either side of the keel section to support transom and counter and to provide a firmer base for the final bulkhead which is glued in place.

 

The last pieces to build are the two cabin structures at the stern on either side of the gun deck. These are also cut so that they can’t be assembled wrongly. I learnt from past stupidity and got it right this time. I felt that they need some fettling and bevelling at the joints to allow for the angles of front and rear walls. I hope that this hasn’t thrown them out when it comes to adding the outer etched pear pieces.

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Everything looks lined up and good to me so I can brush glue into all the joints and leave it to dry.

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I'm now waiting for some hinges and handles (among other things) from Syren. They were despatched promptly but are somewhere in the US or UK postal system.

In the meantime I'll begin assembling the gundeck centreline fittings.

 

David

David

 

Previous Builds

HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74

Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64

HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64

HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64

HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 

18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 

HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64


Current Build

HMS Harpy 1796 - Vanguard Models - 1:64

 

Posted

Completing The Lower Deck

 

I have made some of the gun deck centre line fittings but I'll save that for a more appropriate point in the log

 

The hinges and handles that I was waiting for have arrived from Syren and I can continue with fitting out the lower deck.

The small Syren handles are added to the pear cabin fronts using small dots of CA gel and the paper hinges with PVA. They all slot together easily but the side walls need clamping to stop any risking of warping. Once in place, I gave them a couple of coats of diluted matt varnish.

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The beams are all sanded to remove the char and dry fitted. There was only one slot that needed a bit of attention but only because of a slight overlap from one of the cabin pieces. Carlings, mast partners and capstan base are added and alignment checked with scraps of dowel.

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The ship’s stove is 3D printed and nicely detailed. I painted it iron black and dry-brushed it with pale grey to bring out some highlights. It’s quite subtle. I glued it in place on the hearth with CA before the final carling pieces are added.

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The ply sub-deck clips in place after a bit of fiddling and lies nicely flat. Next up is to complete fairing the hull. The deck is covered in wide masking tape to keep the majority of dust out.

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Time to make some more dust...

 

David

 

 

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David

 

Previous Builds

HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74

Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64

HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64

HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64

HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 

18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 

HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64


Current Build

HMS Harpy 1796 - Vanguard Models - 1:64

 

Posted
4 hours ago, François de Saint Nazaire said:

Have you caulked the orlop deck? Is

Hi François,

I use a Pigma Brush to blacken one edge of each plank.

David 

David

 

Previous Builds

HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74

Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64

HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64

HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64

HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 

18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 

HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64


Current Build

HMS Harpy 1796 - Vanguard Models - 1:64

 

Posted

Thanks to all for the likes and comments

 

Preparation for First Planking

 

I spent a happy couple of hours in the sunshine fairing the hull . There was even sufficient breeze to keep the dust down.

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The inner patterns for prow, stern post and keel are added next.

 

The prow needed some sanding to make it fully seat into the slots between frames. Before glueing in place, I tapered the leading edge of the knee of the head. I don’t have exact measurements of the taper but drawings in Longridge and AoS Diana show a reduction of about 1/3. To achieve this would mean sanding away the leading edge of the pattern completely when the two 1mm thick outer pieces are taken into account. I thought that too extreme for this modeller and reduced it to 1mm; sufficient to see a taper.

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The stern post and keel also needed a slight touch of sanding to achieve a tight fit.

There was a 1mm gap between prow and keel which I filled with a sliver of pear.

Sorry, I forgot to take pictures of a lot of this stage.

 

I gave the gunport patterns a short soak to accommodate the curve around the bow. I couldn’t get the two patterns to fit in the slot at the prow so enlarged it to give more space. I also tapered the leading edge of the two support pieces that are glued to the prow. Even so it was a tight fit and I didn’t entirely succeed in getting both parts to meet.

 

The first patten went on easily, glueing along the false deck every three or four bulkheads clamping and pinning the lower edge to each frame. The fit was perfect at the stern and required only a light sand. The starboard side had to be refitted because the forward end slipped out of the slot and there was about a 1.5mm overhang at the stern. A second attempt was a great improvement but still required some sanding to bring it flush with the counter and transom pieces.

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As a final step before planking, I made a support for the upturned hull from a piece of mdf and scraps of balsa.

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David

 

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David

 

Previous Builds

HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74

Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64

HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64

HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64

HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 

18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 

HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64


Current Build

HMS Harpy 1796 - Vanguard Models - 1:64

 

Posted

First Planking

 

The first layer of planking with 5x1mm lime is going steadily. I used tick strips to measure the width of the plank at each bulkhead. Each plank is tapered to 2.5 or 3mm at the bow and gradually runs to full width between bulkheads 6 & 7. The planks are bevelled before glueing and pinning.

After five runs down from the gunport patterns I fitted the garboard strake and the one above.

With eight runs completed, I’m nearing halfway. Some edge-bending is needed at the bow but I’ve not needed to use any spiled planks yet.

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Onwards and upwards (and downwards)

 

David

David

 

Previous Builds

HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74

Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64

HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64

HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64

HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 

18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 

HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64


Current Build

HMS Harpy 1796 - Vanguard Models - 1:64

 

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

First Planking Cont.

A bit of a break in work on Harpy. I've been visiting a friend in Preston with the most incredible model railway based on Preston station in 1938 and followed by a week staying with friends on the Isle of Man.

 

A couple of afternoons and evenings and the first layer of lime planks is complete.

 

There is some work to do, especially around the bow on the port side where I think I made a mistake early on. It meant that some of the edge-bends were a bit extreme and I had to add a wide spiled plank.

 

The final strake was a bit of a mess with a wide plank required at the bow and stern and a thin piece in the middle.

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Overall though, I’m happy enough.

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Some lighting angles are not very kind; a lot of sanding and some filling follows.

 

Thanks for following and support.

David

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David

 

Previous Builds

HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74

Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64

HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64

HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64

HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 

18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 

HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64


Current Build

HMS Harpy 1796 - Vanguard Models - 1:64

 

Posted

Thanks Ron

David

 

Previous Builds

HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74

Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64

HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64

HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64

HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 

18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 

HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64


Current Build

HMS Harpy 1796 - Vanguard Models - 1:64

 

Posted

Thanks once again for the likes and comments.

 

In Preparation for Second Planking

I spent a couple of afternoons sanding the hull. Some filler was necessary at the bow and in odd places along the length but I’m now happy with the look and can move on to second planking.

 

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But first some more parts need to be added. I started with the square tuck. According to the instructions, these parts should sit slightly proud of the first planking so a little more sanding at the stern was needed. I liked Maurice's @Blue Ensign treatment of this area with the addition of the framing and have decided to follow suit. I’ve roughly cut the outer edge pieces from some 0.8mm pear using the kit parts as a template and will finish them later.

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I'll make the other parts of the frame when I’m ready to fit them all. I plan to glue the frame to the kit parts and then infill.

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As with the core pieces of prow and keel, there was a 1mm gap between the two etched pieces which I filled with a scrap piece of pear. A little sanding around the rudder port was needed for the sternpost to fit snugly.

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I soaked the counter and clamped it in place to achieve the curve. It was probably unnecessary since the curve is only slight but as I had to soak and leave the outer bulwark patterns to dry overnight, it was no extra hardship.

The port bulwark pattern fitted almost perfectly with only a little bit needing to be taken off at the bow. However the starboard bulwark needed about 1.5mm to be removed before I was satisfied and the gunport jigs fitted. I think this was due to the problems I had getting both of the plywood patterns to fit into the rabbet. They looked to be symmetrical at the time but clearly something was out.

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I will now apply a thin coat of shellac to the planking as a sanding sealer.

 

I also plan to follow Maurice's @Blue Ensign lead with the pear planking and align it with the wales but I need to decide whether to follow his method or perhaps take the less risky route of Richard @Richard44

 

Something to ponder.

 

David

 

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David

 

Previous Builds

HM Cutter Hunter Mamoli 1:74

Baltic Ketch Scotland - Corel 1:64

HMS Fly - Swan Class ship sloop - Victory models 1:64

HMS Diana - Artois Class Heavy Frigate - Caldercraft - 1:64

HM Cutter Trial 1790 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 

18th Century Merchantman Half Hull - NRG-1:48 

HMS Speedy 1782 2023 Edition - Vanguard Models - 1:64


Current Build

HMS Harpy 1796 - Vanguard Models - 1:64

 

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