Jeff-E Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share #121 Posted December 5, 2013 Hi Dragzz, Joe, Slog, Nick and Richard, Thank you all very much for your kind comments and for looking in Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share #122 Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) Hi All, I have been lining the gunports over the last few days and I hope to finish them tomorrow. They will need a little bit of trimming and a light sand but overall Iam happy with them. I lined the top and bottom of the ports first and then did the sides, I have 9 more ports to do to finnish them off. some pics follow Edited December 7, 2013 by Jeff-E olliechristo, NMBROOK, Captain Slog and 2 others 5 Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 8, 2013 Author Share #123 Posted December 8, 2013 Hi All, I finished lining the gunports today and I will post some pictures once they are trimmed and sanded. My next project is to plank the stem an keel even though I am going to paint it and copper below the water line I would like some definition of it being planked under the paint, the instructions do call for you to plank the keel using 1 x 6mm walnut strips in a straight sort of pattern. The pic may will explain it better I have decided to go with the pattern in Longridge's book which I have drawn on the keel and stem I am using 0.5 x 5mm sapellie from another kit for the planks because I don't think there are not enough walnut planks left over to complete the job and I only have to widen the slots in the frames that support thebeakhead deck by 1mm instead of 2mm Some pics of the planking follows I will post some more soon. olliechristo and The Sailor 2 Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stockholm tar Posted December 8, 2013 Share #124 Posted December 8, 2013 Hi Jeff, Nice job on your gunports. As for the stem, I agree, ignore the instructions (again) and go with the plank pattern on the ship, and as Longridge has done. You can see the diagonal planking in various close-up shots – and this will probably show on the finished model, whether you intend to leave her natural or paint the model. Quote Kester Current builds: Sherbourne (Caldercraft) scale – 1/64th; Statsraad Lehmkuhl (half model) 1/8th" – 1'. Victory Bow Section (Panart/Mantua) scale – 1/78th (on hold). Previous build: Bluenose ll (Billings) scale – 1/100th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyh155 Posted December 8, 2013 Share #125 Posted December 8, 2013 Excellent idea with that masking tape - it will sure be easier and more accurate than measuring. I'll be doing that for sure jimmy from Brissie in Ozzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share #126 Posted December 9, 2013 Hi Kester and Jimmy, Thankyou both for your kind comments. Kester, that is what I am hoping for, we'll see how it turns out Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix_63 Posted December 10, 2013 Share #127 Posted December 10, 2013 Hi, I've just joined this forum and for Chrimbo I am looking at the better half buying me the Victory Cross section or Bow Cross section or Panart 'between the decks'. Having looked at various logs on here I think it will be the Panart or this model, but I don't know if I can replicate such impressive work; especially the planking! Absolutely stunning, can't wait to see the finished model. I can see the benefit of some low power LED lighting, will have to look at local stores for possible products. I am tempted to start with the Panart kit then progress to this beastie! Loving it... Jeff-E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyh155 Posted December 11, 2013 Share #128 Posted December 11, 2013 Yes,Phoenix, I have the Panart Victory bow cross section, but so far, too chicken to start. I have decided to limber up on the rather strange Amati bireme. It is a sort of glorified rowing boat with 44 oars!! It has a simple sail that I think even I will be able to master. The Victory bow section is scheduled for after Chrissie Jimmy from Brissie in Ozzie Jeff-E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share #129 Posted December 11, 2013 Hi Phoenix, Welcome to MSW and this log Thank you for your kind comments and I hope you get the model you wish for, which ever one it is I'm sure you will make it something you can be proud of. Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share #130 Posted December 11, 2013 Hi Jimmy, Are you going to start a build log of your Bireme? sounds like an interesting build. Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie B Posted December 11, 2013 Share #131 Posted December 11, 2013 I just want to say that this is my first post and I have been wanting to build a wooden ship.I saw this model and thought it would be a good first one to try.It has a little bit of everything without the overwhelming of doing a complete ship. I found your build site and want to say you are doing a GREAT job. I do have some scratch building experience on a 1/24 scale rc tug,and with your pics and experience I have the confidence I can do this too.I will be following this to the end Ron Quote Ron Current projects HMS Victory Bow section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyh155 Posted December 12, 2013 Share #132 Posted December 12, 2013 Hi Jeff-E! yes, I would like to do a build log, but the photos may be few and far between. Reason? The cable from camera doesnt communicate with laptop no 2. So I have to put the SD card into laptop no 1, save it, then transfer to stick RAM, then put stick into laptop no 2 taking care not to upset the mouse cable, then try the internet device. EASY EH??? How do I put a photo onto this forum? AAAAGGGGGGHHHHH....... JIMMY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share #133 Posted December 12, 2013 Hi Ron, Thankyou for your kind words and welcome to MSW and this log I think you are right in saying the kit covers a variety of ship modelling aspects which would be benificial to a first time builder it is also a bit of a challenge but if you take your time I think you will build a model you can be proud of. If you do decide to go with this kit I would be happy to offer any help I you need, there are also many more experienced modellers on this site than me that would be more than happy to help with any questions you have Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share #134 Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Hi Jimmy, Wow sounds like your camera and PC have some issues with each other. In answer to your question on how to post pictures take a look at this link by Dan Vad , hope this helps Edited December 12, 2013 by Jeff-E Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share #135 Posted December 12, 2013 Hi All, Just a small update with some pics of the stem planking. The starboard side is nearly finished and now that I am finally happy with the pattern the port side wont take to long. I will finish the starboard side today and I hope to complete the port side tomorrow or Saturday. AntonyUK, Captain Slog, olliechristo and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZyXuz Posted December 12, 2013 Share #136 Posted December 12, 2013 nice planking on the stem, Sam Quote Visit My Blog! http://malaysiamodelship.blogspot.com/ Previous Build: HMS Race Horse (Sergal) Current Build: HMS Unicorn (Corel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share #137 Posted December 12, 2013 Hi Sam, Thankyou very much. Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonyUK Posted December 12, 2013 Share #138 Posted December 12, 2013 Hi Jeff. Nice way to finish the bow area. Planking is spot on Regards Antony. Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share #139 Posted December 12, 2013 Hi Antony, Thank you, I like how it turned out after a couple of goes Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie B Posted December 12, 2013 Share #140 Posted December 12, 2013 Jeff Thanks for the welcome. I'm sure I will be picking the brains of you and others for help .For now I will be paying close attention to your log and pics. Ron Jeff-E 1 Quote Ron Current projects HMS Victory Bow section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathewp Posted December 13, 2013 Share #141 Posted December 13, 2013 Is that Mahogany I see on the bow section?. That's a nice way to do the planking. Why can't the manufacturers come up with a plan like that? She's looking good Jeff. Jeff-E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share #142 Posted December 13, 2013 Hi Matt, Thank you. The planking is 0.5 x 5mm Sapele( Al 's Descrition), it is left over from an old AL kit, I think it might be a similar texture to Mahogany though I' not sure. It would be nice if manufacturers did provide sugestions and instructions on how to plank parts such as the stem, but extra detail would also add to extra cost,however it would be nice if some of them provided decent instructions on how to build the basic model. I think that some of the finer details are sometimes best left up to the builders own preference as to how much detail he or she wishes to add Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share #143 Posted December 13, 2013 HI Ron, Not a problem, I hope you enjoy the build Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share #144 Posted December 14, 2013 Hi All, The stem planking is complete on the Starboard side and the port side is about 1/3 done. I have started making the gunport lids. The kit supplied laser cut lids made from 0.8mm ply with pre drilled holes for the ropes to attach to them for opening and closing. The instructions don't mention covering them with any strips of wood but in the drawing showing how to attach the lids to the hull it does seem to show the lid with a lining of planks on both sides of the lid and the planks look to be flush with the lid. When I tried 1 of the lids in my port I found it almost fell through the lined gunport, as I had cut my ports out to originally fit the pre made supplied port linings this was a bit suprising. So I have decided to use the supplied lid as a plug and plank the outside of it with 1 x 6mm offcuts from the second layer of planks and to leave a overhang of 0.5mm all the way around the lid and to line the inside with 0.5mm sapele that I'm using on the stem olliechristo and Stockholm tar 2 Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share #145 Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) I am also trying to replcate the run of planks with the gunports , fortunately most of them have only two planks runnig through them but a couple of the lower ports have three with the centre being a full plank and the outer ones cut at different widths Edited December 14, 2013 by Jeff-E Captain Slog and olliechristo 2 Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted December 14, 2013 Share #146 Posted December 14, 2013 Some lovely planking there Jeff and the detailing is growing with each day, she's a delight to the eye mate well done. Have you thought about a colour for the hull and will you be coppering her ? Be Good mobbsie Jeff-E 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragzz Posted December 14, 2013 Share #147 Posted December 14, 2013 the craftmenship on the bow is sec to none great work that u have done so far very clean keep in going Jeff-E 1 Quote this is my dry docks side build hms victory/corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/4698-hms-victroy-by-dragzz-corel-scale-198/ side build waiting on parts /king of the mississippi/ al kit http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3490-king-of-the-mississippi-by-dragzz-al-scale180/?hl=%20king%20%20the%20%20mississipp current build mare nostrum al kit http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8125-mare-nostrum-by-artesania-latina-scale-135-by-dragzz-small/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share #148 Posted December 16, 2013 Hi Mobbsie and Dragzz, Thank you both for your kind comments Yes Mobbsie I am going to copper the hull and paint the upper works in the same pattern she currently wears at Portsmouth dock with black, yellow ochre and blue Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff-E Posted December 18, 2013 Author Share #149 Posted December 18, 2013 Hi All, A bit longer than I expected, due to work issues but the stem planking is complete and sanded.The two holes drilled at the front edge of the stem are for the bobstays, I was going to drill the hole for the mainmast stay collar but seeing as there wont be one fitted I omitted it Some pics follow The next job is to mark the water line and the position of the wales and then to make and fit the wales The Sailor, Stockholm tar, Captain Slog and 2 others 5 Quote Cheers Jeff Current Builds; HMS Supply Completed Builds; AL Swift 1805; Colonial Sloop Norfolk; HMS Victory Bow Section; HM Schooner Pickle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sailor Posted December 18, 2013 Share #150 Posted December 18, 2013 Great planking, Jeff. Jeff-E 1 Quote Cheers, Richard. ------------------------------Current build: Mercury, Russian brig, America's Cup Yacht Endeavour (1934), AmatiCompleted build: HM Schooner Pickle, JoTiKaNext: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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