cdogg Posted November 12, 2013 #1 Posted November 12, 2013 Yes, the time has come for me to temporarily abandon my beloved Midwest Boats and seek a more intermediate ship to build. Alas, the Corel Scotland has been on my list for quite some time and I decided last night to start it up. Looks like all the parts and there and in good shape. Started out with the keel and frame, will be busting out the exacto and the mini chisels tonight. Can't wait to get this ship started!!! coxswain, alde, JesseLee and 3 others 6 Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
cdogg Posted November 12, 2013 Author #2 Posted November 12, 2013 This is my first crack at a Corel kit, the instructions look very good for this ship. Well, at least for now! alde and egkb 2 Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
egkb Posted November 12, 2013 #3 Posted November 12, 2013 Very best of luck with it Casey, looks like I'm the first to 'Pull up a chair' Nice looking boat to build ! Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄
egkb Posted November 12, 2013 #4 Posted November 12, 2013 I'm not familiar with this Boat Casey, but what are the 'Sticky Up' bits of bulkhead (above deck level, if you follow me) in the third photo? Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄
cdogg Posted November 12, 2013 Author #5 Posted November 12, 2013 I just was test fitting. bulkheads 7 and 6 actually stick up I believe to help create the structure. egkb 1 Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
mtaylor Posted November 13, 2013 #6 Posted November 13, 2013 I hope you don't mind if I too, pull up a chair. Looks to be an interesting model. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
cdogg Posted November 13, 2013 Author #7 Posted November 13, 2013 thanks for checking it out guys! This will be my first "ship" rather than boat. egkb 1 Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
cdogg Posted November 13, 2013 Author #8 Posted November 13, 2013 Well, I last night I started the front bulkheads. I know this has been asked a thousand times but anyone have any great ideas to get these guys leveled? I have been filing away at the top but I think I am better off widing the notch where they attach to the keel. Thanks! Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
cdogg Posted November 13, 2013 Author #9 Posted November 13, 2013 Brian, it's been fun so far! The planking will be new for me so have my sanity so far! Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
Nirvana Posted November 13, 2013 #10 Posted November 13, 2013 Brian, Before gluing the bulkheads and any further filing (unless it's to late) compare the bulkhead towards the plan. Just to make sure the dimensions are right from the start. Just my 2cents egkb 1 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
cdogg Posted November 13, 2013 Author #11 Posted November 13, 2013 Thanks. Will do. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
Craigie65 Posted November 13, 2013 #12 Posted November 13, 2013 With a name like this I should pull up a chair - haggis anyone? Does this kit come with sails? Whilst I have not been a member for very long I have not seen many vessels with sails. The ones I have seen tend to be furled. Presumably difficult to get them to hang right? Good luck Quote Cheers Craig Current Build HMS Indefatigable Erycina - Vanguard Models Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models
cdogg Posted November 13, 2013 Author #13 Posted November 13, 2013 In a way, it comes with a standard white cloth that needs to be sewn. That's where I am clueless, I do not have a sewing machine nor can I use a needle and thread. Perhaps I will need to learn... Craigie65 1 Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
cdogg Posted November 14, 2013 Author #14 Posted November 14, 2013 Dr. Per, thanks for the guidance. It didn't come with large layout plans except for the rigging diagrams. but in the back of the instruction book alas there were the bulkhead designs! Thanks!! Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
Nirvana Posted November 14, 2013 #15 Posted November 14, 2013 I must apologize, you are Casey and not Brian. Please forgive me..... Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
Craigie65 Posted November 14, 2013 #16 Posted November 14, 2013 Casey, Needle craft 101 for you! I'm sure there must be a "how to...." In the resource section of the forum. After all there seems to be a thread on most topics Quote Cheers Craig Current Build HMS Indefatigable Erycina - Vanguard Models Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models
cdogg Posted November 15, 2013 Author #17 Posted November 15, 2013 Craig, I think I am going to furl them. Easier way out but from the look of the kit box the sails cover up a lot of the deck, so I may have to get them out of the way yet keep them in sight. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
cdogg Posted November 16, 2013 Author #18 Posted November 16, 2013 Finally get the house to myself tonight! Just me, the dog, and my ship build. Hopefully I will get some serious work in. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
pete48 Posted November 16, 2013 #19 Posted November 16, 2013 Awesome Casey, It should be alot of fun to build Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/
Craigie65 Posted November 16, 2013 #20 Posted November 16, 2013 Casey, Lucky you. I have to put up with the X Factor. I wonder if I can sneak off and do some sanding........... egkb 1 Quote Cheers Craig Current Build HMS Indefatigable Erycina - Vanguard Models Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models
cdogg Posted November 17, 2013 Author #21 Posted November 17, 2013 Doh! Bossman had me work late on the perfect night, just rolled in! I am getting the bulkheads done, wanted to do more. Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
Craigie65 Posted November 17, 2013 #22 Posted November 17, 2013 Lucky you To be honest I was way too sore after playing two games of hockey yesterday. So after a soak in the tub I snoozed on the couch will try to move my Granado forward today Quote Cheers Craig Current Build HMS Indefatigable Erycina - Vanguard Models Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models
cdogg Posted November 19, 2013 Author #23 Posted November 19, 2013 Hey everyone, ran into an issue with the bulkheads and what seems to be a Corel issue. I traced up the bulkheads drawings and compared, the wood laser cuts are actually more aligned then the drawings, if did the drawings some of them would bot be straight!. So, looks like I have a "boatload" of fairing to do. Also, the instructions are detailed but are starting to skip key explanations and focus more on stuff that anyone with past experience already knows. egkb 1 Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
cdogg Posted December 1, 2013 Author #24 Posted December 1, 2013 Got around to getting the deck set up, interesting set up suggested by Corel. I used the deck markers to line up the bulkheads, worked pretty well. I added the walnut strips around the keel, this is a fun ship to build so far. Wish I had more time but lately have had virtually no free time to work on the ships. egkb 1 Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
DmitriyMarkov Posted December 2, 2013 #25 Posted December 2, 2013 Hi, Casey! I am currently building this kit as well - started in 2005 ;-) Now I am at the stage of rigging If I were to start again, I would throw out all the castings and scratch-built the transom. Don't use cast deadeye chain plates - better make them from wire instead. Also check and double check the hull lines as bulkheads in my kit were beyond the border of Good and Evil - only one or two of them were symmetrical - had to add a lot of shims and still haven't done the hull job well... Adding balsa fillers between bulkheads can be of some sense as those little blocks glued to the deck didn't help in my case. - the deck is very thin and it does not prevent the whole frame from getting twisted. Anyway, I wish You best luck with this project and would follow it. If You have any questions on the Scotland kit I would be glad to help. Best Regards Dmitriy Quote
cdogg Posted December 2, 2013 Author #26 Posted December 2, 2013 Hello Dmitriy-- I found the bulkhead issue right away, I have probably spent 4 hours so far getting them in shape, even the drawings were off in the manual. I widened the space between the deck guides to the bulkheads and they helped a little. I haven't gotten around to checking out the chain plates but thanks for the heads up. I noticed the metal castings for the transom look a little rough, any suggestion on how I should start from scratch? Thanks!! Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
DmitriyMarkov Posted December 2, 2013 #27 Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Hi again! Yep, the drawings in manual are smaller than real details (( My pics are here : http://gallery.shipmodeling.ru/main.php?g2_itemId=13999 I noticed the metal castings for the transom look a little rough, any suggestion on how I should start from scratch? Well, I must confess I've used a cast detail ;-) I was very impatient those days ! Nevertheless, I think it won't be too difficult - You'll need callipers and some scrap planks. The transom detail has a frame in it's base - so take the measurements of all ribs and make a frame of same size. You will lack decorations - but You can always add them later made from poxypol or Tamiya Epoxy Putty. Or You may even try to carve them from balsa. Edited December 2, 2013 by DmitriyMarkov cdogg 1 Quote
dragzz Posted December 2, 2013 #28 Posted December 2, 2013 so far u are doing vary well with the corel kit i was born in scotland so i want to get that kit some time it been nice one to build i will be watching this build keep the pic comming cdogg 1 Quote this is my dry docks side build hms victory/corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/4698-hms-victroy-by-dragzz-corel-scale-198/ side build waiting on parts /king of the mississippi/ al kit http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3490-king-of-the-mississippi-by-dragzz-al-scale180/?hl=%20king%20%20the%20%20mississipp current build mare nostrum al kit http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8125-mare-nostrum-by-artesania-latina-scale-135-by-dragzz-small/
cdogg Posted December 24, 2013 Author #29 Posted December 24, 2013 Well, slowly getting back to the shipyard. At the point just before planking the deck, which I hope to get to tomorrow. Here is where I am at now. egkb 1 Quote Casey "I drank what?" - Socrates Current Builds: Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch 1775 AL Mare Nostrum 1/570 RMS Titanic - Revell Plastic Model Kit Finished Builds: Midwest The Dinghy Midwest Chesapeake Bay Flattie Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Future Builds: Mamoli Golden Hind Mamoli Black Prince AL Swift
Sailor1234567890 Posted December 26, 2013 #30 Posted December 26, 2013 My brother build this one. Not sure why he won't steer me straight on her. Quote
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