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Mast and bow sprit are in. Still need to do the shrouds. None of the rigging is permanent yet. All roping is loose. I learned that lesson a few ships back. Keep everything loose so you can adjust it here and there. Once it is permanent it is difficult to adjust. 

 

Started on the sails stitching and adding bolt rope. The topsail is a dark brown sail I scavenged from a tjelk that broke from my last move. Both foresail and jib are stitched but no bolt rope yet. The main sail will be stitched next. 

 

I also made a pdf of how I make sails. Towards the end of the built I will show how I do it. 

 

Yesterday at my woodworkers meeting the treasurer gave me a Dremel Moto Lathe 700. It is a small one. Next week I am going to attempt making belaying pins with it. Should be fun to try. Also going to try canon barrels from wood. 

Marcus 

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Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Question and I think Jan can answer this as he knows the Utrecht by heart. 

How are the back stays connected? On the railing or the deck? 

Thanks. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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What a nice gift Marcus, youl enjoy playing with it. Your sails will look wonderful, love the colors you are using.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

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Thanks for the comments Piet and Cog and all the likes. Finished all the sails and the standing rigging. 

Didn't have any belaying pins so I am making them myself. 

Stick a 2mm in diameter and 5cm in length in the dremel. This is fastened to the dremel drill press set up at a 90 degree angle. So the dowel is facing me. Dremel at lowest speed and use micro files to shape the pin. Average about 5 minutes per pin. Works great. 

Marcus 

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Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Finished making about 30 belaying pins and not all are the same. But I do have enough. All standing rigging is installed and permanently fixed (no going back). Next is the running rigging which will be the vangs, these are two sets of roping attached to the end of the gaff tied down close to the pavilion. Then attach the sails.

Marcus 

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Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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On the Utrecht replica there are no ratlines but they are shown in the plans. Decided to follow the plans and install them. Maybe the yacht is a too small of a boat for needing this. My other models I built in the 80's didn't have them either. 

 

I wonder when you install ratlines and when you don't?  What is the formula for this? Any books out there that will give me an answer? 

I am going to ask my club members for this one, or maybe anyone of you know the answer. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Installed all the ratlines and instead of a drop of glue I use "Hard as Nails - Extreme Wear". It is clear dries quickly and you can cut the ends off very close to the shrouds. For people who don't know what this is. Women use Hard as Nails on there brittle nails or to cover nail polish. 

Also installed the topsail and working on the foresail and jib. 

Marcus 

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Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Thank you for all the likes. 

 

Something very interesting in the plans. Especially for the people who have the Utrecht from SeaWatchbooks. 

Look on Sheet #7. Look at the Sheetblocks Foresail, note the diagram. Then go to Sheet Foresail diagram. Look at it closely, what do you see?

In the diagram on the left side, the side view shows a double block and on the right side, the front view shows a single block. OOPS

OR you are supposed to shove 2 turns of roping in a single block. 

 

Anyway, finished installing the foresail and the jib. The rigging is still loose so towards the end I can still adjust it. 

Marcus 

Utrecht, Topsail, Foresail & Jib 1.jpg

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Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Thanks for all the likes. 

 

Installed all sails with the rigging still loose. I am very pleased with it so far. I have to redo the bit. I pulled it out when I put the rigging in the hole and then put the belaying pins in. 

Next boat I plan to install the bit before the deck goes in. I can glue and nail it to a frame or make the posts very long and use CA to glue it to the hull. Something will come up. 

Marcus 

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Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Now that looks extraordinary Marcus!

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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Thanks for the compliment, Piet, and all the likes. 

 

Finished installing the Gaff Vangs, two for each side and the new bit. 

Except for belaying all the rigging, flags, and another deck item, she is finished. 

The flag on the jib in the plan is from the province of Utrecht, but in the book it is a Dutch flag. So it is a decision I have to make.

 

Then on to making a display case. There are several people in my woodworkers club that make these. I might have them make the frame and I will add the Lexan. 

My wife wants the Utrecht on display in the office, which will replace the Mary (Royal Yacht). I have to find a home for her somewhere else.  

Marcus 

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Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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A very fine looking model Marcus. About the flags, Several paintings I have seen of the jachten have a large Dutch standard with the shield of the city or company in the center white band at the stern flag pole. The jib carries a smaller Dutch flag and a red, white and blue pennon (wimpel) at the top of the mast and sometimes on the gaff. To get the shield of the City of Utrecht in the white band of the flag may be too difficult to achieve at this scale.

An artist, Walter Otte van Soest, made a painting of the Statenjacht Utrecht in 2004 where he shows the flag of the City Utrecht at the stern with the Dutch flag at the jib and a small Dutch flag at the top of the mast. Either way you go it will still be a magnificent model.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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Dumb, dumber.....

What is the flag of the province of Utrecht?

 

And sorry, I missed the question on the backstays. They are going inboard through a heavy piece of wood, and belayed on the inside. As a matter of fact, in the 'real' ship, they are positioned further aft than on your drawing. IMG_4927.thumb.JPG.6b546bb22002dac62746e4c587a947b9.JPGIMG_4940.thumb.JPG.a74621d024f81ed41499563532cc90c3.JPG

 

 

 

Jan

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Hartmut, Thanks for the compliment. 

Jan, thanks for the suggestion, thought about changing to that but I used the plans. 

Piet, thanks for the flag information. In the SeaWatchbook the flag of Utrecht is too difficult to create in the scale of the boat. It will be Dutch flags on the jib, the pennant and on the pavilion. Orange, white and blue (oranje - blanje - bleu). 

The plans show a red, white and blue flag with the shield of Utrecht in the white area and a lion on each side of the shield. Too detailed to make it look good. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Two questions:

1. The rope that hangs loose from the sheet main sail and foresail, how is it belayed? 

2. How are the leeboards positioned when it is in the display case? One up and one down? Both down? 

 

Flags are painted on one side. The other side is tomorrow. Then a layer of Dulcote, and install on boat. 

 

Marcus  

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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1. I don't know

2. What I've seen both up. As Jan Wrote in Hartmut's build, the lee side is lowered, but on display, you wouldn't show the lee side, but the weather side ...

Carl

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1 Which rope do you mean?

2 There are no rules for that. Following some model in the museums I did it this way: up and down. Looks good to me. 

 

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before you ask: yes, Iknow part of the scroll work is missi g, and that the flag fromthe mastop is lying on deck. That's the risk of moving houses with these rather large models....

(although, being 36 years of age, she looks stil OK to me)

 

Jan

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I think I know which rope you mean.

the sheet is belayed on the lower block of the sheet tackle. There is even a special block for that.

 

You can see it onthe right side of the pic here. The block is hooked to the ring, the sheet can be belayed onthe block. The same holds for the fore sail

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(I guess dafi wouldnt mind my using his picture)

 

this block is also used in other Dtch ships: like this botterIMG_0453.JPG.32db94a6565344d47f09afa29b153991.JPG

and the rope is belayed like this (the heel of the block always on the aft side of the ship)IMG_0452.JPG.788fdf3a8572d1af117bb727c7c40aba.JPG

the excess rope is either on abelaying pi to the side, orjust neatly. On the deck, depending on the setting ofthe sail

 

Jan

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Jan: that is a nice looking model. 

I should have been more specific. I meant the rope that you haul in and out, the one the guys are pulling in the picture. 

Thanks for the pictures and diagram. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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22 hours ago, amateur said:

That is the  rope that is belayed on the block.

 

Jan

I didn't do this. I'll do it on my next built, which will be a Boyer. This is going to be my next built. 

Marcus 

Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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My method of making flags is by Gus Agustin, an expert model ship builder. Below are the steps for people who are interested. I've altered his method somewhat. 

 

Flag making by Gus Agustin. 

1. I copy my flags from the plans of the ship. 

 

2. I trace the flag on clean white paper on both sides in pencil. 

 

3. Trimmed it on 2 sides using the third and fourth side as a handle to work with. 

 

4. I then crinkle the paper into the waves and folds that I want.  This kills the memory in the paper. The waves and folds will depend on how you want to display the model with flags. This and step 5 will take some practice, but remember that paper is cheap, so have fun with it. 

 

5. This is the most important part of making flags. Once you've crinkled your flag, dip it into a bowl of lukewarm water, lay it out on piece of glass (or I use a tile) while still wet, and play with it using toothpicks to reshape it again with the waves and folds you desire, than set aside to dry. I give it 24 hours to be completely dry before I handle it 

You've now given your flag a NEW memory. You can open it and with a little pressure with your fingers it will go back to the shape you created. 

 

6. Now you can start painting, starting with the lightest color than going to the darkest. I use acrylics and even if the paper is white, I still paint it white. 

 

7. Once you've completed one side with the 1st color, set aside to dry (I do 2 coats); then do the other side. (again I do 2 coats). 

 

8. Proceed with the next color and repeat step 7. When finished painting, trim the handle (3rd and 4th side) but don't forget the tabs (top & bottom) so you can attach to the mast or ensign staff. 

This is where I do it differently. I trim all sides and don't use tabes, instead,  I fold one side (about 2 mm) of the flag over, add a long piece of string and glue the fold with the string in it. Weigh it down until dry. Once dry attach it to mast or other area. 

At this point you can still play and refold the flag to the desire wave you want. 

If the colors are too bright, I use Dulcote to flatten the color. 

 

You have now made your flag. Don't be disappointed if it is not perfect, remember it's your first flag. With enough practice, you will get what you want. I use acrylic paint which is water base. You can fold and twist your flag and the paint won't chip or flake off. Water color paint will flake off and oil base paint takes too long to dry. 

 

Marcus 

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Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Some more pictures of flag making. 

1. Here I removed the handles and all you have left is the flag itself. 

 

2. Here I lightly score the flag to get a crease. 

 

3. The crease is made, the string is laid into the crease and with little glue shut it. 

Let it dry and install it. 

Marcus 

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Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

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That's an interesting method, I have saved the instructions. Thanks for sharing.

Your flag came out pretty nice.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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I finished the Utrecht, this weekend and she turned out pretty good for my first scratch boat. I want to thank Jan (especially your pictures) , Piet and Carl for the suggestions. 

 

Next boat is a Boyer, from the 17th century Dutch merchant ships book, this will be slow going as the next 3 seasons my time is spent mostly outside. At the same time I am going to build an eight sided polder mill (achtkantige poldermolen voor de tuin). I will post progress on that build in the thread for non-ships. 

 

I want to thank everyone for following my build, and before you leave the room, please stack up the chairs in the corner. 

Marcus 

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Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman

 

Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better"

 

Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).

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Congratulations Marcus!

 

She’s an absolute ripper.  I can’t believe this is your first scratch-built model, because you’ve added so much fine detail and captured so much atmosphere, that one would think that you’ve been building from scratch for years.

 

Well done.  You definitely deserve a big pat on the back😁

 

Cheers.

 

Patrick

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