18th Century Longboat by Stuntflyer (Mike) - FINISHED - Model Shipways

[Stuntflyer]

Is that the same as Dick's Sporting Goods  found here? http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/products/athletic-apparel.jsp There are a few close by. If yes, I will visit but leave the wallet home!

Edited July 10, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[dgbot]

Yes, but before you go call ahead to see if they have the equipment.  The one in Skokie IL had one but every store is different.

David B

[Stuntflyer]

Will do, thanks

[Stuntflyer]

Started rigging today. . .

 

I used a scrape balsa block to hold the boom in position while making the "topping lift". The angle of the boom matches

the plan.

 

 

I wanted to make the "topping lift" and rope coil from one piece of rope, if possible. After trying various ways, unsuccessfully, I finally came up with a jig using a 5/32" dowel. I used a tiny amount of thinned white glue to hold the first coil in place.

 

 

Once dry, I made the other coils by wrapping 3 more turns around the dowel and gluing again. After removing the dowel, I shaped the coil as best I could and applied more glue to hold everything in place.

 

 

As you can see I decided to use a hook instead of seizing the block directly to the mast ring.

 

Edited July 20, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[Stuntflyer]

The boom sheet is now finished. After coiling a separate length of rope I compressed the coil with tweezers to make it more elongated and then used hair spray to fix the shape.

 

Edited July 19, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[Stuntflyer]

Completed gaff assembly and its rigging. My girlfriend thinks the boat is too small and should be at least twice as large. She is afraid to touch it for fear of breaking something. So am I!

 

Edited July 28, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[Chuck]

Beautiful work...I am actually planning right now a larger version that is more detailed with floors and true framing practice.   It will be double the size and represents a 30 foot longboat.   This way the rig and details can be added without compromises for a mass produced kit.   So you will just have to build it again!!!

[Stuntflyer]

Thanks Chuck,

 

Wow, that's great! The Longboat seems to be a very popular build. A more detailed version would make it even better. You can count me in for sure. When do we get started?

 

Mike

Edited July 28, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[Stuntflyer]

Looking at the location of the oarlocks on the kit plan, it appears that there is a mistake on the port side near bulkhead "B". Drawing a straight line down from both sides of bulkhead "B" shows that this oarlock is located where a chainplate will be. The photo above shows that I placed this oarlock according to plan. Looks like I will have to relocate this oarlock aft to make room for the chainplate. Looking at Chucks build you can see that's exactly what he did. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/629-18th-century-english-longboat-by-chuck-c1760/page-2

 

Edited July 31, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[Stuntflyer]

I made this simple jig for the chainplates.

 

 

The plywood square worked alright but a metal square would be better for large batches as it will hold up longer and not crush when pulling the wire around it.

 

 

Here is one glued using CA and then bent to hull shape and painted

 

 

The kit supplied deadeyes leave a lot to be desired.

 

Edited August 7, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[Stuntflyer]

For the shrouds I used the kit supplied .021 black line and seized it with .012 tan line. White glue though better than CA still darkens the tan color more than I would like.

 

Edited August 6, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[jburchfield1@wowway.com]

For what it's worth coming from a total newbie, you are doing an excellent job on this longboat Stuntflyer.  

[Stuntflyer]

Pops,

 

Thanks for the kind words from one newbie to another. The "running backstays" are next and I will have to be careful not to break anything while making and fitting all the parts. Could be challenging as I am still training myself to move more slowly. I already broke the mast once. We'll see!

Edited August 8, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[Stuntflyer]

"Running Backstay" assembly completed. Almost!

 

As per the instructions, the chainplates were made from 28 gauge wire, pendents from .018 black rigging line and running backstays from .018 tan. Additionally, the hooks were made from 28 gauge wire and the blocks are 1/8". I just need to add some rope coils.

 

 

Edited August 11, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[Stuntflyer]

I haven't had a chance to try other PVA glues other than what I have been using which is Elmers Carpenter Wood Glue (thinned substantially). It definitely changes the color of the tan line to a darker tone and I think it takes away from the natural look of the line by giving it a smeared look. You can see this in the photo comparison below as well as other photos that I have posted on this page. Though not shown here, I have noticed that it leaves a whitish residue on black line. 

 

The photo below is test sample showing 3 different glues against a natural sample for comparison. I think that the best result comes from the G-S HYPO Cement. Yes, it's a little gooey and sticky, yet it appears to preserve the natural color and look of the line.

 

Edited August 11, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[Chuck]

Remember that the MS line is actually Nylon so watch what you use.  Dont use anything that will actually melt it.

 

Chuck

[Stuntflyer]

Thanks for reminding me. To be safe, I won't use the G-S glue on the MS line. After the Longboat is completed, unless there is some good reason to use nylon line, I'll use something else. Among other things, making coils out of this stuff is not fun.

 

Mike

Edited August 11, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[AndrewNaylor]

Still beautiful work a pleasure to be on the side lines

Andy

[Stuntflyer]

Thanks Andy!

[Stuntflyer]

Chuck,

 

I call the company that makes G-S HYPO cement and they say that it won't melt anything and is safe to use on nylon thread.

 

Mike

Edited August 12, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[Stuntflyer]

Having completed the rigging it's on to the oars, anchor and stand to complete the model.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 18, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[SkerryAmp]

Mike, that is fantastic!!   I just caught this one and read it through and such beautiful work!!

 

Nicely done, nicely done!

[jburchfield1@wowway.com]

Looks really good Mike!

 

And you're in the home stretch.

[dgbot]

Fantastic work.  What kind of paint did you use?

David B

[Chuck]

You did a fantastic job on her.  Almost done!!!  

[Stuntflyer]

Thank you very much guys! It's been an amazing journey so far.

 

David B.,

 

All the paints used were thinned with water. I did the red with Badger water based acrylic and a brush. Trying to spray this paint did nothing more than clog the airbrush. Brushing it on wasn't so great either. If you try and sand between coats, it tends to ball up and subsequent coats tend to bead on the surface of the previous coat. The black as well as the tan (for the belaying pins) were done with Winsor & Newton acrylic and a brush. The quality of the W&N paint is worth every penny and has none of the negative traits of the Badger paint. I will try to spray the W&N paint on the next build.

 

All of the paint colors are over coated with Testors spray Dullcoat. The red looked very uneven until I used the Dullcoat which does an amazing job of evening out the color tone. The Dullcoat is useful in other ways as well. For example, I used CA to adhere the chainplates to the hull which leaves a tiny amount of shiny CA around the pin where the chainplates are attached. I lightly sanded the CA with the corner piece of #320 sandpaper to dull and partially remove the excess CA. A light spray of Dullcoat completely masked the area so that it blends perfectly with the rest of the hull. The "jib sail outhaul" kept moving along the cap rail and I was sure that any type of glue on the line or cap rail would show. After positioning the line, a light spray of Dullcoat adhered the line to the cap rail with no trace of it and no discoloration of the line.

Edited August 19, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[dgbot]

I have also been a fan of W&N  I have a couple of their oils and am using their watercolors on my card models. 

David B

[Stuntflyer]

My finished Longboat, a very rewarding and humbling experience.

 

A big thank you to everyone for all your support over the past eight months. You have kept me going when I was seriously in doubt. I know that this wonderful group of people here on MSW will help me to move forward and I look forward to sharing thoughts and ideas with other members in the future.

 

Now, if I could only decide on what to build next?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 28, 2014 by Stuntflyer

[jburchfield1@wowway.com]

Excellent build dude.  Congratulations on a job well done.   

 

Just to throw this out there, when I recover from my financial reversal, I intend to try to build the Bounty Launch.  It's similar in design, but POF as opposed to POB but MUCH larger.

[dgbot]

Break out a bottle. Good job . As for your next model what are you interested in?

David B