M. Pajulahti Posted October 30, 2014 Author #31 Posted October 30, 2014 Cutted the bulkhead middle supports off from the area where main hatch will be. I'm planning to do the same with companion ways area, where also will be ladders down. My new spar deck supports are excellent, since the top part of bulkheads seems to be very strong now, even they have no middle supports at all. Those were very good to add there. Markku usedtosail, WackoWolf, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
Mundie Posted October 31, 2014 #32 Posted October 31, 2014 Just checked out your log, great job. I'll be waiting to see how it comes along. Quote J. Mundie Jr. Current Build- Constitution MS 2040
M. Pajulahti Posted October 31, 2014 Author #33 Posted October 31, 2014 Mundie, thank you from your message. So am I waiting to see how this one will come. It's my first big ship model. Markku Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
M. Pajulahti Posted November 1, 2014 Author #34 Posted November 1, 2014 I added lower part of fore hatchway to gun deck, and started planking the deck around it. I like the colour of these planks, it's pretty close to the real gun deck. Markku GuntherMT, CaptainSteve and Ol' Pine Tar 3 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
robnbill Posted November 1, 2014 #35 Posted November 1, 2014 This is looking good. You might want to apply finish to the lower gun decks before you build around them. They will be difficult to get to later. Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
M. Pajulahti Posted November 1, 2014 Author #36 Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) Yes I know it will be pretty difficult. But i'm not building around them, i'm building the gun deck inside of everything else. What a fun challenge. However, I'm not adding guns or anything else to there. And because that gun deck floor will be hardly seen in the finished model, it don't have to be perfect. I just want there is a solid floor under the ladders. Markku Edited November 3, 2014 by M. Pajulahti robnbill and CaptainSteve 2 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
M. Pajulahti Posted November 3, 2014 Author #37 Posted November 3, 2014 Some progress at gun deck. Markku Aussie048, CaptainSteve, robnbill and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
M. Pajulahti Posted November 6, 2014 Author #38 Posted November 6, 2014 Gun deck floor ready. I think that's enough and a bit more than what would be visible when the model is ready. Imagining how it will look like when watching thru the companion ways, and I think it will be very nice. Markku Landlubber Mike, GuntherMT, CaptMorgan and 5 others 8 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
M. Pajulahti Posted November 8, 2014 Author #39 Posted November 8, 2014 Let me introduce one of the importantest parts so far. This little block is a template for gun ports. I'm using it mounting the spar deck gun ports. Now when there is lower parts in place, just add this block and mount the other parts around it. Very handy. Gun port progress. Then I made some other additions using paper template. Now continuing the spar deck gun ports. Markku Landlubber Mike, GuntherMT, Aussie048 and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
CaptainSteve Posted November 8, 2014 #40 Posted November 8, 2014 Great work, Markku !! Your false gun deck looks fantastic. I think I would like to use that idea on my Connie. M. Pajulahti 1 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
M. Pajulahti Posted November 8, 2014 Author #41 Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) Thank you, CaptainSteve, glad to hear. Go ahead, I'm just sharing my way to build this ship here. I think my next move is adding all the supports under coamings. It's easyer to do before adding waterways. Markku Edited November 8, 2014 by M. Pajulahti CaptainSteve 1 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
M. Pajulahti Posted November 12, 2014 Author #42 Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) So there comes supports under coamings, I started them at the bow. But before I continue any further... Cutted off four bulkhead tops. I will add my own supports there. This was also one of the reasons why I added those bigger supports under the spar deck earlier. Here you can also see the gun deck floor before. After wood wax the result was pretty impressive. This is the first time for me using wood wax. Before I used varnishing. Pretty nice, huh? Markku Edited November 12, 2014 by M. Pajulahti CaptainSteve, CaptMorgan, Ol' Pine Tar and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
GLakie Posted November 12, 2014 #43 Posted November 12, 2014 Looking nice Markku! I'll be following this build with interest as I'll be building mine in a similar way with some exceptions. Cheers M. Pajulahti 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
M. Pajulahti Posted November 15, 2014 Author #44 Posted November 15, 2014 All supports under coamings done. Next will be the waterways... Markku CaptainSteve, GLakie, Landlubber Mike and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
M. Pajulahti Posted December 2, 2014 Author #45 Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) Not much progress here... I've done just some small corrections and found out some problems (again) with the bulkheads. First I'll show you what I've done today. Here is result of my work: And I know you have no idea what that is. It's my way to find the right angles on bulkhead extensions. A temporary "roof" for the spar deck which will show where bulkhead extensions should be underside of topgallant rail, and it also supports my corrections to move the bulwarks. Here is how I'm gonna use it: And here we see the main problem. Starboard side of my Connie's outboard edge on bulwark extensions goes pretty straight, like it should go based on the plans. But on port side there is a large curve: On this detail photo you can see there is 2mm gaps between the extension tops and where they should be based on plans. The angle is wrong. The problem is especially on bulkheads O, P, Q and R. Anyone else even tested the extension tops are they where they should or did you just build the bulwarks and be happy with the result? Everything seemed to be OK for me also until I found out the differences on port side extension angles compared to starboard side angles. So now I'm trying to fix this problem... I'm adding my temporary roof to show the right distances between extension tops and support the bulwarks when I'm turning them to better angles. I've cutted some of the extensions already, ready to turning: Then I'm going to use the waterways and their glue to get the extensions on better position. No idea is this gonna work, but I want my ship being properly straight! Markku Edited December 2, 2014 by M. Pajulahti robnbill and CaptainSteve 2 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
GLakie Posted December 3, 2014 #46 Posted December 3, 2014 Hi Markku: When I first checked my bulkhead plans, I found problems with 3 bulkheads. The 3 on the right side of sheet 1. Bulkheads B, H, and M were asymmetrical to the point of needing to subtract wood from one side and add to the other to correct it. This includes the keel slots. I'm hoping the flaw is only in the plans and not in the bulkheads themselves, but I won't know for sure until I strike the plans against the bulkheads. Cheers Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
M. Pajulahti Posted December 3, 2014 Author #47 Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) George,Unfortunately, all the mistakes in plans were in bulkheads also, at least in my kit. Amazing, how MS can produce that kind of crap. They should redo the plan sheet 1 and their bulkhead laser cut program to make these kits better. It's kind of cheating feeling when we compare the parts to plans and everything is correct there, but It's hard to see that all the mistakes are in the plans also and everything is wrong. The good thing is, our material is wood and so it can be fixed. Of course the best way is correct all the right shapes first before building anything, but that's not possible because some of these mistakes appear later during the build. Markku Edited December 3, 2014 by M. Pajulahti GLakie and CaptainSteve 2 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
usedtosail Posted December 3, 2014 #48 Posted December 3, 2014 I had to add wood on the insides of some of the bulwark extensions to fix these errors. I checked each of the bulkheads for symmetry before I added them to the keel and marked the areas that needed to be removed/added to. My bulwark extensions are not as high as the kit plans, however, since I am only building to the top of the main rail, since that is closer to the 1812 version. CaptainSteve, M. Pajulahti and GLakie 3 Quote - Tom - Current Build: Stay Tuned Completed: Vanguard Speedy, Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild
M. Pajulahti Posted December 7, 2014 Author #49 Posted December 7, 2014 I'm starting to understand what it means when a kit is specified as a "challenging". Glueing the first part of waterways and twisting the port side bulwark in the same time: Markku GLakie, Ol' Pine Tar, schooner and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
GLakie Posted December 7, 2014 #50 Posted December 7, 2014 She's looking good Markku. After a little more extensive checking, the 3 BHD's I mentioned were overall fixes, but the rest seemed to be concentrated on the lower hull, with only minor repairs needed, and the rest can be worked out with just sanding and fairing. Cheers M. Pajulahti 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
M. Pajulahti Posted December 11, 2014 Author #51 Posted December 11, 2014 Wow, building this ship is the hardest work what I've done for a long time. Oh gosh how much it took sweating to glue these waterways and correct bulwark angles, but IT WORKED. Now I have waterways in stern area and my bulwarks are OK enough so I can be happy with this result. I'm doing the waterways in 9 parts so these are the first 3. Stern part was very tricky one, since it's not straight in any direction. There is a curve along the deck plus slight curve along the stern. Markku schooner, msberkman, WackoWolf and 5 others 8 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
M. Pajulahti Posted April 4, 2015 Author #52 Posted April 4, 2015 Working with waterways continues. Just glued the bow pieces. Markku CaptainSteve, GLakie and msberkman 3 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
GLakie Posted April 4, 2015 #53 Posted April 4, 2015 That's some nice clean work Markku! As I've come to expect from watching your work. Cheers M. Pajulahti and CaptainSteve 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
CaptainSteve Posted April 4, 2015 #54 Posted April 4, 2015 'Tis good to see you back on deck, Markku !! GLakie and M. Pajulahti 2 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve
thomaslambo Posted April 5, 2015 #55 Posted April 5, 2015 Hi Markku, Great work so far, very clean and precise....I'm amazed this particular kit has so many issues. Keep up the great work, I'll be following with interest. Boyd GLakie and M. Pajulahti 2 Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48
M. Pajulahti Posted April 5, 2015 Author #56 Posted April 5, 2015 Thank you guys from your supportive words. Markku GLakie 1 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
M. Pajulahti Posted April 6, 2015 Author #58 Posted April 6, 2015 Last parts of waterways and done! I wonder did I glued them a bit too tight, because there really was a tight fit and needed to press them in place with power, but on the other hand I soaked them in hot water before glueing and I hope they sit in place well enough. There is also some little corrections I still need to do, but there they are, my waterways ready in place, finally! Markku usedtosail, CaptainSteve and msberkman 3 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
GLakie Posted April 6, 2015 #59 Posted April 6, 2015 Waterways look great Markku! Nice job! M. Pajulahti 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
M. Pajulahti Posted April 25, 2015 Author #60 Posted April 25, 2015 (edited) Then I added inboard planksheer. It went really well and I like the result. Next I'm sanding the bulwarks ready for outboard planksheer. Markku Edited April 25, 2015 by M. Pajulahti CaptainSteve and HIPEXEC 2 Quote Current build: MS - USS Constitution 1:76 Previous builds: Corel - Flattie 1:25AL - Mare Nostrum 1:35Revell - Dom Fernando II e Gloria 1:200 Revell - USS Enterprise 1:720 Trumpeter - USS California 1:700
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