HMS Snake by drtrap - Caldercraft

[drtrap]

It's time to go back to the deck fittings.

Two basic questions before I proceed: have you glued only or pin-fixed the fittings and especialy the grattings on the deck?

Have you applied any varnish on those fittings? Slightly coloured or uncoloured?

Thank u in advance.

 

Stergios

[Beef Wellington]

I didn't pin the gratings, just glued to the deck.  All the other fittings (especially the pin rails) were pinned as these need to take some strain from the rigging.  Matt (uncoloured) varnish was used on everything.

[drtrap]

I didn't pin the gratings, just glued to the deck.  All the other fittings (especially the pin rails) were pinned as these need to take some strain from the rigging.  Matt (uncoloured) varnish was used on everything.

Thanks Jason

Edited May 8, 2014 by Stergios

[drtrap]

Just a couple of photos showing the deck gratings (unglued still) in place.

For the mo I'm trying to find a "varnished way" to revitalize the mood/pale appearance of the walnut parts...

Edited May 13, 2014 by Stergios

[drtrap]

The latest shots of her.

Thank you

[drtrap]

Deck eyelets firmly fixed in place (after pre-drilled 0,5 mm holes) without any glue....

 

[jim_smits]

It's coming together nicely!

 

Definitely easier installing deck eyelets without other deck furniture in the way.........

[drtrap]

It's coming together nicely!

 

Definitely easier installing deck eyelets without other deck furniture in the way.........

That;s right Jim!

I'll try to postpone fixing those fittings the later I can....

Edited May 12, 2014 by Stergios

[drtrap]

Now trying to figure out the "course anatomy" of the anchor rope.

Looking at the drawings of the kit and the photos of senior mates I think that first step is to fix the 1st rope edge on the deck beneath the anterior grating (propably using those holes mentioned by Jason some posts above) and leave the other edge loose for tying the anchor many steps later.  

Edited May 13, 2014 by Stergios

[drtrap]

I plan to leave for the moment unglued the gratings and the basic deck fittings and start to deal with the bowsprit placement and the bowsprit bracket fit.

Is there any contra-indication on this by your experience?

Thank you.

[Beef Wellington]

Stergios - don't think you'll encounter any issues installing gratings at this point if you choose to, but doing that later would probably be just fine as well.  Its definitely a good idea to do the bowsprit while you still have room, it will also allow you to get the anchor cable installed if you choose to wrap it around the bowsprit bracket/bitts.

[drtrap]

Thank you Jason.

 

I'm trying to study currently the procedures needed for the bowsprit installation. I dont't feel very happy and that I'm on the safe side with it...

It is supposed that to start I have to cut the 8 mm dowel at a length of 212 mm but I don't know whether this dimension is the right one in practise, especially when the angle of inclination of the bowsprit and its central edge placement (pinned or glued on the deck) can easily alter (?) the levers and the attachments of the other edge... 

So, starting to share a lot of question for this I'd like to ask you, did you encounter any initial problems with the length of 212 mm?

Do you suggest as my 1st step to dry fix the bowsprit bracket and test/file the central edge of the dowel accordingly before I cut to length of the sheet No2 212 mm?

Every help would be appreciated..! 

Edited May 14, 2014 by Stergios

[Beef Wellington]

I decided the most important thing was to ensure was the length of the bowsprit from the front of the hull matched the plans, rather than shaping exactly according to the plan.   Before I cut the bowsprit to length, the end that attaches to the deck under the bracket was shaped to ensure that the bowsprit angle was correct (I drilled a hole for a pin to help ensure consistent positioning).  Once that is known, its pretty simple to then measure from the bow to determine where you need to cut bowsprit to give correct length.

[drtrap]

Thank you Jason.

By looking sheet No 1 the distance a>b is 13 cm. When I'll shape and fix the central edge beneath the bowsprit bracket, I'll cut the dowel to a point as to keep that distance from the anterior front of the hull.

Edited May 14, 2014 by Stergios

[drtrap]

Ooopppss.

The inclination seems nice (or not ?) but the central edge of the dowel can not reach the "docking point" of the bowsprit bracket.

Thinking to use a round file to enlarge the bowsprit hole or to file the central 1/4 edge of the dowel to pass it through that I've created in advance. 

Edited May 14, 2014 by Stergios

[drtrap]

Out of duty shipyard...

[Beef Wellington]

Did you flatten the end of the dowel?  That will make it sit further back, it will also affect the angle slightly.  I have pictures in my log - I also found that the bowsprit was seemed to want to finish in front of the bowsprit brackers, that was mainly why I used a false end in the bracket to hide this, but keep the angle of the bowsprit appropriate.  If you haven't already seen it, I did keep track of the various challenges/mistakes I made doing this so that may be worth a look.  Best of luck!

[drtrap]

Did you flatten the end of the dowel?  That will make it sit further back, it will also affect the angle slightly.  I have pictures in my log - I also found that the bowsprit was seemed to want to finish in front of the bowsprit brackers, that was mainly why I used a false end in the bracket to hide this, but keep the angle of the bowsprit appropriate.  If you haven't already seen it, I did keep track of the various challenges/mistakes I made doing this so that may be worth a look.  Best of luck!

I'm so closely following your log Jason and Jim's log too.

I'll keep you informed.

 

Cheers 

[drtrap]

Small, quick update...

I'm pretty happy with the arrangment of the bowsprit and the relative bracket...

 

[drtrap]

The inclination of the bowsprit is a point of concern but I think that I'll keep this ratio

Edited May 14, 2014 by Stergios

[drtrap]

This is a basic question for my snake mates.

Following the plan No 2 I'm measuring a bowsprit outer length (from the front of the hull to the other edge, a>b (see my previous drawing)) of about 13 cm long.

The length of the relative Jiboom is about 15 cm long.

Do you kindly confirm the above dimensions to enable me to avoid any important mistake?

Thank you.

 

PS: For the anchor, have you used the standard natural 2,5 mm rope of the kit?

Edited May 15, 2014 by Stergios

[Beef Wellington]

Those dimensions are same as mine.  I purchased some 2mm anchor rope from Amati as it was more scale appropriate.

[drtrap]

I've decided to glue and fix the fittings of the deck before I start the bowsprit assembly.

These are some pics of my latest progress.

[drtrap]

My personal "taste" of coloring (using dark-mate varnish) of the capstan and companionway.

The walnut parts of the kit were too pale in my opinion...

[jwvolz]

Looking good Stergios. 

[Vasileios]

Good job Stergios.

 

Vasileios

[drtrap]

Looking good Stergios. 

Thank you for dropping in Joe

[drtrap]

Good job Stergios.

 

Vasileios

Hi Vasileios

I think that you deserve (as my first teacher) all the credits of my progress.

Cheers

[drtrap]

I'd like to say about the deck that I used carpenter's glue to fix the fittings.

[Beef Wellington]

Stergios - I think you put your update in the wrong log (Jim's Ballahoo log), suggest you remove that and repost it here.  I'll put my question here though, did you decide not to make the top of the masts square?  That is how they would be on the real ship, the round hole for the main mast needs to be squared off and the of the mast made square.